You are not a minority, BITCH!

Argh. Yesterday I step into the lab and a fellow grad student asks me if I think if someone would give her thousands of dollars for being a Gypsy.

Yes, a Gypsy.
The story

I am a grad student at Rutgers U. in Newark, NJ. It’s a heavily urbanized city that is predominately black (though immigrants from Portugal and the Caribbean make up a solid chunk too). The university is EXTREMELY diverse (we were voted most diverse university in the whole country by US News & Report). We have the whole United Nations thing going on. It’s so diverse that EVERY group–racial/ethnic/religious/sexual–is a minority on campus. For someone raised in the South, it was a culture shock seeing so many different people.

The faculty is different, though. White folks aplenty, with a couple of Asian folks and Indian folks. Very very few black people. I’m one of two black graduate students in my whole department (of about 30 Ph.D students). No black faculty in my department. This is–remember–in Newark, NJ, one of the “blackest” cities in the country, where one would expect to find more than one black “token” in the crowd.

Even though it saddens me, I’m used to it. My whole life I’ve been the “only one”. That’s what being a minority means. It means always being the only one and sticking out like a sore thumb every day at work, even though the streets are full of people who look like you. It means having to take the minor “slights” from your jovial colleagues, pretending that they were meant as jokes, not as anything “serious”. It means that when a lecturer starts spewings stats about black “crime”, “health”, “mortality”, etc., you have to pretend that he’s not objectifying you, just the people who look like you. If you can’t cope with these things, you’d be bent out of shape all the time. This, as december would tell you, is unproductive.

It means being lonely sometimes and being overly self conscious. But like I said, you get used to it. And I wouldn’t trade being who I am for all the money in the world (well, maybe I would have to think about it for awhile :)).

It’s not all bad. The National Institute of Health is committed to bridging certain historical disparties, and in doing so, they have developed a funding program specifically geared to underrepresented and historically oppressed groups. Like black folk and Latinos. Even though my work is more ecological than medical-related, I receive funding from this program and I’m very grateful for it. Without it, I would be forced to teach (whereas now I do it voluntarily) and not be fully engrossed in my research. It’s really been a blessing.

Now back to my rant…

My lab is composed of white women. My wonderful advisor is a white woman. All of the grad students–except for me–are white women. Including the chick who wants to suddenly claim “Gypsy heritage”, even though this is the first time I’ve ever heard of her having anything beyond Polish grandparents. She was raised in Brooklyn, as an American, and as a white girl. Just a few months ago she told me she feels like a minority on campus because she’s one of only a handful of white, American-born women in her classes :rolleyes:. Dumbass, I wanted to say. If she’s a minority, what am I? She’s got some nerve calling herself a minority when everyone in the lab is a white, American-born woman, including her boss! But when she said it, I was like “whatever” and just chalked it up to her usual cluelessness.

But now she wants to claim “heritage” that–IMHO–she doesn’t have any business claiming. This blond-haired, hazel-eyed, white girl told me that she discovered that she has “Gypsy roots” (she doesn’t use the word Roma or anything like that, nor does she explain what she means by “roots”). Not only does she want to claim it, she wants to benefit financially from it. She wants to find out if the program will consider “Gypsies” a minority. If she were truly a Gypsy, I wouldn’t be angry. There’s no doubt that Gypsies were and are very unpopular and have been discriminated against (even though they aren’t included as one of the groups being targetted by the NIH, at least not explicitly). But she’s not a Gypsy. She’s a white girl from Brooklyn, who’s never self-identified as anything other than a white girl from Brooklyn. The only language she speaks is Brookynized English (if you can call that English ;)). But now that her USGS funding is up, she’s scrambling for money. Obviously she’s desperate.

I’m angry because she seems to think there’s nothing wrong with her “on-and-off” concept of minority. Being a member of a stigmized, isolated group isn’t something you can turn on and off to suit your purposes. Whether I’m sitting in a crowded lecture hall or working in the laboratory, I’m a black person and everyone knows it. I would love to be able to turn off the blackness sometimes, like when I’m meeting someone for the first time or when I’m walking in a hoity-toity neighborhood by myself. I would love to be able to say I’m the “minority” when everyone who’s running things–from my advisor to all the people on my disseration committee–are “like” me. But it ain’t like that. I’m trying as hard as I can to get in one of those power positions. Fortunately I have government backing in my endeavors so that future generations won’t have to be the “only one” all the damn time.

To me, if you have to “discover” your kinship to a group, then you have no business claiming that you are a member of this group, which is basically what she’s trying to do. For instance, I would never say I’m Irish, even though I have Irish “roots”. Not only is it a political thing (no one would look at me and see “Irish”) but it’s a cultural thing. I don’t speak Gaelic. I don’t clog. I have no desire to go to Ireland. I’ve never done anything uniquely “Irish”. I don’t think both forms of identification are required to justifiably claim heritage, but I would think they are both important, especially when you’re representing yourself as a member of a particular group and you’re being financially benefited from such representation.

Because it takes me a while to come up with all my snappy comebacks, I told the girl she should call the administrator of the fellowship and I gave her the woman’s phone number. I kept waiting for her to laugh and say she was just kidding, but she was dead serious. I wanted to slap the bitch, yes I did. I wanted to take her on a walking tour around Newark and see all the people she’s claiming “minority” kinship to.

As much as I love not having to teach, if she gets the money, I’m going to pull out of this fellowship. I don’t want to be a part of something that participates in a mockery of its own noble goal. This decision will pain my advisor, no doubt, but it will hopefully pain her more to see what kind of sorry trash she brought into the laboratory. And believe me, this asswipe is trash. I hope one day she wakes up and finds herself in the body of a Gypsy, circa 1942, living in Germany (just like that Sheen guy in the Twilight Zone). Then we’ll see how fast she appreciates being the white American-born female that she is.

(I’m aware that the idea of having an “exclusive” fellowship might rub some of youse the wrong way, so there’s no burning need on my part to hear you say so. I look forward to your responses anyway.):slight_smile:

Not so fast, comrade!

If you were to go to Europe, you’d see there’s a LOT of discrimination against “Gypsies”.

Also, perhaps this girl IS being idiotic. However, as far as being Polish: one hundred years ago, Poles were considered dirty, stupid and animal-like. Most Slavs were-in fact, the word slave comes from the word Slav (which actually means “Glory” or “The Word”.)

Of course, I call myself Irish/Polish, whatever. We also still have some Polish/Hungarian/Slovak customs on my mom’s side of the family-certain foods, and traditions such as oplatki wafers on holidays (Unconsecrated communion wafers, blessed by a priest. You take a piece at dinner after everyone says grace).
I’m also very proud of my ancestors coming here with nothing, being poor serfs and starting over.

SHE is not a minority. SHE is an idiot.

However, don’t make the mistake that Gypsies don’t have it rough over seas.

Oh wait-you acknowledge what I said about Gypsies.

Never mind. Sorry…

I can see where you’re coming from, but the fact that she’s white and was born in Brooklyn doesn’t mean she’s not a Gypsy. There are those of us who aren’t swarthy and weren’t born in a horse cart or between the matinee and the evening show of the circus that all Gypsies work at.

Am I a “minority”? Well, I’ve met exactly three Gypsies in my life that I wasn’t related to (one of them on this board (hi Kal)), and most people I tell immediately say, “Wow, I’ve never met a Gypsy before!” Do I use it to my advantage, as this woman is apparently going to try to do? Never have, possibly because there weren’t any “any minority” scholarships in my field.

Do I think this woman is grasping at a system that clearly wasn’t set up to support people like her? Sure. But be careful about lumping all of us together like that, or I’ll put the evil eye on you, you racist motherfucker.

(If I used smilies, there would be one right here. Just so’s I’m not misunderstood.)

Please note that I don’t think anything disparaging about Gypsies. As I said, if this cloaca really was a Gypsy, I wouldn’t have any problem, and I would actually help her in her efforts in trying to get funding. But I know she’s just playing this to get money. Lining the pockets of people who can claim any non-WASP “blood” is NOT the goal of this particular funding program.

And if you have the evil eye, I have the infamous black girl “cobra” neck. Necks beat eyes any day. :slight_smile:

Oh yeah? Well, well…I’ll…I’ll beat you with my ciupaga!!!

The young lady in question needs to determine if said minority is suffering any discrimination based on being said minority. If not discrimination, then no bennies, I guess.

Even though Whites are not a minority(yet) in the US, they are a small minority worldwide.
Also, I question why the taxpayer funded National Institute of Health is passing out money on a racial basis. I thought that sort of racist paternalism was outlawed.

Also, how do you know she’s not a Gypsy. Do you think you can tell just by looking at her?:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Oh the humanity!

Damn pikeys.

I’ve known her for two years, and we’ve had many conversations about ancestry. As I said, I know the girl has Polish heritage. About five months ago she said she discovered she has a Brazilian ancestor (she told me this as if I would be impressed or something). Only since yesterday have I heard anything about her being a Gypsy, which she admitted to just having found out. I think if you have to “find out” something like this, then you shouldn’t claim it.

They aren’t a minority at my school. Nor are they underrepresented in the sciences. They aren’t at the nasty end of most health disparities. They haven’t been historically excluded from research opportunities. So what’s your point?

Why? The NIH has been concerned with both racial and socio-economic disparities that exist in health care and health-related issues for awhile. One way of combating these issues is by providing support for scientists of certain backgrounds. Not only are racial minorities targeted, but people from lower economic strata. I’m sure the NIH has programs for women too. Their programs are just one way to eliminate the biases which already exist in the system.

Many Polish people are of Gypsy ethnicity. Are you calling her a liar based on her physical appearance? Once again, Polish is a Nationality, Gypsy is an ethnicity.

Maybe they’re not a minority at your school(merit), maybe they’re not underrepresented in the sciences(merit).Maybe they get the research opportunities(merit).

What I want to know is, why are you pissing and moaning about some person claiming a preference when you have no idea if they deserve that preference or not?

BTW, monstro. you yourself arent attending school on some “affirmative action” program are you?

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Why? The NIH has been concerned with both racial and socio-economic disparities that exist in health care and health-related issues for awhile. One way of combating these issues is by providing support for scientists of certain backgrounds. Not only are racial minorities targeted, but people from lower economic strata. I’m sure the NIH has programs for women too. Their programs are just one way to eliminate the biases which already exist in the system.
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Preferences and programs for everyone but the EEEVILLL White man!

There has been a grave error in one of your facts, Monstro:

I believe it was Dean Stockwell, not that “Sheen fellow”, who was in the Twilight Zone you mentioned. Unless we are not thinking of the same Twilight Zone.

Just had to get that off my chest. Carry on. (Oh yeah, the girl sounds like a ninny.)

I think monstro’s calling her a liar based on all of her past behavior up until the point she discovered there was money to be made in claiming to be part of a group she didn’t even know she was connected with.

Ethnicity is based on how one behaves. If she had no idea about her Gypsy ancestor until just recently, then she has no Gypsy ethnicity.

But anyway, my great-great grandma was Cherokee. Can I get a scholarship, too? :wink:

You know, monstro; you’re missing something of importance here: this woman has been denied, for one reason or another, knowledge of her heritage. She’s managed to do some research and find out what her past is, where her family comes from. And because you don’t understand it, you condemn her.

So, I ask…exactly who’s the bitch?

Well…first of all the nature of “Gypsy” or Roma history and treatment means many such people hid their ancestry to avoid very real and intense discrimination…I would bet more than a few American families come from buried Roma roots (I believe actual people from this group view “Gypsy” as a slur).

Anyway, Roma people are originally from India - but over the centuries have mixed to the point that P.J. O’Rourke once wrote - when describing Albania, the epithet “Gypsy” might be used against ‘anyone darker than Cindy Brady’.

Anyway, I would bet this girl is much like a lot of folks I hear of who fondly recall their Cherokee great grandmothers around college admissions time. But this leads to to question. Could a person claim “minority” status because in their land of origin they are discriminated against - even though are not part of such a group in America and legally white. For instance, the Roma, Kurds, Kosovo Albanians or Russian Jews?

This is what I think is a problem with AA, it draws the world along continental based pseudoracial boundaries - as if there are no oppressed minorities from the European continent but the elites of “Third World” countries could claim a minority status. I’d say a (real) Roma would probably have more grievances than a rich Jamaican creole…if we play the who has suffered more game.

And Barking Spider, I’d hardly call a broadly defined group that is 75 per cent of the population a soon-to-be minority…unless you think like Stormfront or W.A.R. and take away all Jews, white Portuguese and Spanish speakers, Sicilians and other Italians south of Ancona, Albanians, dark Greeks, brunet Serbs, Russians with questionable eyelids, Hungarians with suspicious suntans, and then it might happen. And even if that happens - we might end up like (gasp) Hawaii! Scary huh?

Poor Vic Morrow. And to think he gave his life for that movie!

Yeah, tomndebb - which Twilight Zone are we talking about here? There’s the old B&W episode where Dean Stockwell (playing a hard-nosed American soldier) is suddenly transformed into a Japanese soldier in WW II and gets to see what it’s like “on the other side”, and therefore learns a little compassion.

And then there’s the movie with Vic Morrow (where he was beheaded by the helicopter crash). I never thought director John Landis would work again after that, since two child actors were killed as well, and there were some questionable labor practices - but Hollywood has such a short memory). Anyway, I don’t recall Martin Sheen (or Charlie Sheen…or Emilio Estevez, for that matter) starring in any “Twilight Zone” that would fit the storyline we are discussing here.

Ahem. Sorry. Quite a hijack, eh? :wink:

Beats listening to Barking Spider’s latest rant. :wink:

As to the “Cherokee Great-Grandmother” thing, I don’t have a cite handy, but I suspect most 3rd or 4th generation Americans could make this claim, or one similar to it.

I’m pure American-mongrel-crossbreed-freak-hybrid, and when I see “race” on a form, I mark “Pacific Islander” or its equivalent… Just another haole born in Wailuku here :stuck_out_tongue: