I'm at my wit's end.

All right, this is going to be a pretty lame rant, but I thought this was the most appropriate forum.

The story goes a little something like this: I applied for a gov’t job (in law enforcement) about a year ago. I passed the tests, but wasn’t the highest ranking applicant. I got another job (which I loved) but lost in the state budget crunch. A little after a week after I got the final say on that, I got offered the initial job. The pay and benefits are great, so I thought, good timing, why not?

Unfortunately, I seem to have bitten off way more than I can chew. I realized that the job would be high-stress, but it didn’t bother me – I’m a low-strung individual in dealing with occupational stress (I don’t sweat deadlines or too much to do). However, while the job is of course stressful in that sense, it’s far worse on the human level. To put it bluntly, I can take on a lot, but I can be sensitive when criticized or otherwise called out personally. And, hoo boy, has that ever happened. Rather than being cooperative and helpful within the department, people are divisive. When dealing with the public, they are often rude, and are ruder behind the person’s back. They gossip and insult other people in the department when they aren’t there.

Now, I could deal with all of this (to a certain extent) even though it bothers me, except for the fact that there is a lot of animosity towards me, too. Most of the people there have been doing what they do for decades, and they just have no tolerance for me, who has never done this job before. This is particularly true of the people who directly supervise me. I am getting chewed out all the time! On the one hand, they told me to do what everyone else does; on the other, I get in trouble when I do so (and inadvertently commit a cardinal sin by hitting one of the supervisor’s pet peeves). For example, the other workers surf the Internet or play games when they have nothing to do. When I did the same thing, I was chewed out. I certainly understand the difference in policy for trainees, but the fact is that a) I was emulating other people as I was told and b) I really did have nothing to do! My trainer is still doing all of the work that she normally does along with training me on the side, and she simply does not have the time to teach me things when I am done with everything.

When I do something wrong – even in cases where I have been told to do the wrong thing, or emulated the wrong thing – the response is very hostile and belittling. We have constant evaluations, most of which seem poor, even though they have little to tell me to improve upon. The head of our department (who is the one who chews me out) is very hostile to me all of the time, and will not speak to me at all except when criticizing me.

What makes all of this worse is that I can’t stop screwing up, because even asking a question evokes this same response. At one point, I was working a shift with our supervisor when my trainer was sick. I asked a question about what to do about something that happened to be one of her pet peeves. Even though I did not actually DO anything, the fact that I asked caused her to badger me about NOT doing what I asked if I should or should not do, for the rest of that day AND the following day. No matter how many times I said that I understood and that I wouldn’t do it, she kept bringing it up – particularly in front of other people – that I had asked the question. What was especially frustrating is that it is something that other people do, and that I had seen, and that my supervisor (without me saying anything about this) questioned other people about this, and they denied it, and they, too, badgered me nastily. It was very belittling and upsetting.

I hate feeling like a screw-up. For every other job I’ve had, I’ve caught on very fast. I think I am for this one, too – other, less experienced people in the department have commented on it – but I am constantly in trouble nonetheless. My trainer is just too busy to really spend a lot of time with me, and my supervisor keeps asking her if she’s done things with me – and she hasn’t – and she says that she has, so that I get in trouble! I can’t go above her head, either, because of course said supervisor hates me! I’ve thought about going even over her head, but I genuinely fear what would happen when I did so and I don’t have any real, tangible things to say, anyway. The other people in my department have already lied when I tried to defend myself and I expect that I will find myself even more isolated should I try this.

I don’t know what to do about this. I am in training for over another month, and even after then (when I’ll be working at a different time than these people) I’ll still need to come to my supervisor if I ever want any time off, or for various other issues. I’m very intimidated by the situation, so much so that I’m almost too afraid to quit.

I’m trying to look for another job, but the going is slow and this job is so draining (stress, longer workweeks, plus a much bigger commute) that I can’t find the time as much as I would like. I’m a laid back person by nature, but I am constantly on the verge of shaking. I’ve found it difficult to sleep or concentrate on other things when away from work, and I dread going.

It’s a vicious cycle – I get so nervous around my superiors that I shake and nervously forget things, which in turn makes them more hostile. I just can’t stand being under this veil of constant criticism and disapproval, but neither can I instantaneously gain the decades of experience that I need to compete. Even when I feel that I have succeeded, it is not acknowledged. Even when I have done well and my trainer admits it, she will criticize me and not mention any of the good things to my supervisor.

Is there anything I can do to make this any better? I really am at my wit’s end. I miss my old job dearly, where they were very glad to have me. I would happily take a substantial pay cut to get out of here, but I don’t know if I can last until I find something, but I can’t really afford to just up and quit.

After reading this, the first thing I thought was “Wow - Quit that job NOW!!”

Really, you don’t need this kind of crap.

I think what I would do, is go over your supervisors head, complain to whomever, and be prepaired to walk out on the spot.

Your mental health is worth more than a job. Even if you have to eat Kraft dinner for a month and a bill or two gets paid late, at least you wont have the added cost of your bleeding ulcer…

Hang in there. :frowning:

Al.

I know you say you don’t want to go over your supervisor’s head, but as I see it you are gonna have to do this to get any resolution. You will need to do this tactfully but honestly. I suggest you write out what you want to say and even refer to it when you are talking to the big boss. It sounds like the supervisor is not doing his/her job since there is a clique within the department that is not responding nice even to the public. The supervisor should have niped this in the bud long time ago. Your trainer is also obviously not qualified to be doing that since it sounds like there is a maturity issue with him/her (lying about what has been trained and how an employee does a job as well as not giving appropriate atta-persons is a sign of an immature employee IMHO). So you need to talk to upper management about how you are currently a scape goat for these deficiencies in supervision in the department.

Another way you could go is to put in a complaint with HR. You are experiencing harrassment and your coworkers are causing a stressful work environment. There are laws against what they are doing to you.

If you are dreading going into work, it is my opinion that you need to do whatever it takes to try to make your work environment better. Even if it doesn’t help you, remember that you might be preventing the next poor soul from going thru what you are going thru.

And last, if the above doesn’t help, run do not walk out of this job. It ain’t worth it.

If you don’t like the people you work with, chances are you won’t like the job. So if it was me, I’d quit. The work environment you described sounds like a nightmare.

If you don’t quit, I’d definitely go to HR or your supervisor’s supervisor. Just make sure you have all your ducks in a row. Gather up all your evals, and sit down with whoever is doing them. Make sure you’re progressing the way they want. Make sure they spell out exactly what they expect of you. Don’t let them be vague. Explain your confusion and frustration with their “guidance,” for lack of a better term. And make sure they know about your achievements/progression and note them on your evals.

Also, a small piece of advice: if you’re new, never sit around and do nothing. Just because other guys are doing it, it’s no reason for you to do it. Pester people, if you have to, for some sort of training or something to study. If there’s absolutely nothing to do, go to your supervisor and say so, and ask him for guidance, a project, study material, whatever. If he blows you off, ask to see his boss for something to do… that should scare him a bit. If nothing works, ask to go home since you don’t want to sit around getting paid for doing nothing.

Yeah! What Alice said… I know it’s easier said than done but you truly do need to consider your own Spirit in this. You could work a double shift at Wal-Mart & probably be happier than you are now. Get outta there - it isn’t worth your physical or mental health. Life is too short to be that unhappy. Best Wishes.

Alice, what color’s the sky in your world?

Do not quit your job until you have another one! I repeat: DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOB UNTIL YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE!!!

I got dumped the end of September last year, and it took me 8 months to find another job–and I have an-almost-Ph.D., decades of steady work history, and great references. Get out, look for another job, but do not quit this one until you have another, or it might be more than a month you’re eating Kraft (my 7-year old daughter’s learned to love Ramen), and it might be more than one or two bills that gets paid late.

Trust me, the worst boss in the world doesn’t make your ulcer bleed as bad as near-bankruptcy. Especially if you have a family.

That said, get your butt out and find a better job, and suffer through this one while you’re moving up. It could be worse…you could be tending bar at Applebee’s.

If you’re suffering physical symptoms of stress as the result of your work environment and situation being so wretched, perhaps you could arrange to see your doctor so that he/she can sign you off for a week or two?

At least this would remove you from the department and would give you a few days to recoup your self confidence; it would also allow you to look around for any job as the other Dopers have suggested.

Perhaps you could even give your old company a call and ask if they’ll take you back?

Best of luck to you.

a) fluiddruid said s/he would take a substantial pay cut
b) there’s no mention of children or other dependents
c) “I am constantly on the verge of shaking”

I happen to disagree with you. I’m sorry you had a hard time finding work - it sounds like you are in a specialized field - that certainly makes the job hunt more difficult.

If a person is in a bad work situation (sounds like fluiddruid is), and a substantial pay cut isn’t going to cripple them(s/he said it wouldn’t), they should quit.

I’ve walked away from jobs I hated without looking back. I always got a new one within the week. I chalk this up to being very employable (I have a broad range of skills), and being willing to do a “menial” job for a few months. Hey - It pays the bills.

This is quite abusive behaviour which you should not have to stand for. If sticking up for yourself as advised above does not work, PLEASE for your sanity do follow through with looking for another job. There must be other places in fields for which you are qualified (this or another) where the folks treat you better. It is NOT ok what they are doing–please don’t let them fuck with your head like this.

hugs {{{fluiddruid}}} :slight_smile:

Hey. Are other trainees being treated in this fashion? Keep in mind the discrimination laws.

Thanks for all of your kind words and advice, everyone. I feel a lot better than I did when I was writing that, and it really helps to not feel so alone. That’s the worst part – the isolation of it; being the odd man out.

Alas, carodin, my old company is not a company at all, but a university. They could not keep me on because there was a budget cut, and forces outside of our department simply said “under no circumstances”. We tried for months, and I know that they would have kept me if they could have. I let them know that I’d be glad to come back if it were possible. I hadn’t thought about getting a doctor’s excuse. Somehow, I think that would only increase the problem, because I would have to bring in a note and stress-related symptoms (even though the stress is not related to my work, but rather those I work with) would probably improve grounds for them thinking me incompetent.

I’ve thought about filing a complaint. The problem is that I really have nothing to gain. Do you think that the hostility would cease? Far from it; it would only intensify. I have no doubt that my situation would be very, very much worse if I did so. Not only that, but I doubt seriously that I would be taken seriously. It would not be hard for the people above me to claim that I was simply an incompetent employee who was blaming them. After all, they have those (rather negative) evaluations, and I am sure I could not get anyone in my department to take my side of things.

I have taken part of the evening to search for another job. I really can’t quit without finding one. If something overwhelming happened, I would probably quit on the spot, but as it is, the fact of the matter is that while I am miserable, I can endure this for a bit longer. I live with family, and I really don’t want them to endure another bout of unemployment in this poor economy. I need to wait until I, at least, have some prospects. I just can’t stand to disappoint the only people who are really on my side anymore.

I know that it’s not an OK situation, and I hate being anxious and upset all of the time. I really hate thinking about this all of the time. I hate the way that their words creep into my mind every few minutes, not allowing me to enjoy anything. I hate that I can’t control how sensitive and I hate that I can’t simply ignore them. I hate being afraid of them, and that’s what I am.

But sometimes that’s just the way it is, I guess.

Violet, I’m the only trainee that works at the time I do, so I don’t know. I tend to get the idea that they have trouble keeping people during the initial few weeks or months based on what people have said, but I’m not sure. (I don’t really want to ask about it.) It’s a pretty small deparment – under 20, I think – so we don’t get new people constantly. (Still, there is an awful lot of turnover for such a small group, even considering that the veterans have been there for a long time.)

:frowning:

I hope things improve for you.

::sends positive new-fabulous-high-paying-job vibes::

Violet, I’m the only trainee that works at the time I do, so I don’t know. I tend to get the idea that they have trouble keeping people during the initial few weeks or months based on what people have said, but I’m not sure. (I don’t really want to ask about it.) It’s a pretty small deparment – under 20, I think – so we don’t get new people constantly. (Still, there is an awful lot of turnover for such a small group, even considering that the veterans have been there for a long time.)

:frowning:

I hope things improve for you.

::sends positive new-fabulous-high-paying-job vibes::

Well.

At least I wasn’t the only one struck by board wackyness…

Hi fluiddruid

thanks for the further info. A few things to think about: I know you said they weren’t hiring, but, what kind of job did you do? The point being can you use your uni contacts to get a job in a similar area but in a different educational institution? Can you teach for example? Even if you only have part-time hours, you can still look around for something else to boost your income. Hit up every recruitment agency in your area and get them to help you look for work. Post your resume online as well. Ask your family members, old work colleagues if they know of any vacancies.

I definitely don’t think that having a doctor’s note should be seen as an “excuse” so don’t beat yourself up about that. At the very least you could go and have a chat with your doctor about it? He/she might put something vague on the certificate for you, as: “being made ill by 'tards who should not be allowed in the gene pool let alone be allowed to climb out of it” might not be quite the thing Or maybe it might! :wink: Can you not send the sick note in? (Excuse my lack of knowledge of your system.)

The thing you have to remind yourself constantly is that prior to working at this place, you were happy, capable and quite laid back. It is not your fault that this is happening to you. I think that this is going way above the first few weeks of new-job jitters; their treatment of you is awful and the thing is, you do not have to put up with it.

You’ll need the support of your family, so I think that you should mention what you are going through to them. Even given the financial uncertainty, I’m pretty sure that they would rather you be happy than ill and not able to work at all, which is what can happen long term. These people are bullies and their power lies in making you feel isolated; in killing your self esteem and putting a major ding in your self confidence. Don’t let them get away with it.

If you do a google for: “bullying, stress, workplace” there are a stack of resources. Here’s just one I pulled out:

http://www.safety-council.org/info/osh/bullies.html

note this bit (my emphasis):

"…The common stereotype of a bullied person is someone who is weak, an oddball or a loner. On the contrary, the target chosen by an adult bully will very often be a capable, dedicated staff member, well liked by co-workers. Bullies are most likely to pick on people with an ability to cooperate and a non-confrontative interpersonal style. The bully considers their capability a threat, and determines to cut them down…"

You don’t have to put up with this treatment, and you can do something positive about it.

Best of luck to you. :smiley:

carodin

Hi carodin. Thanks for the response!

Things went a bit better today, which is generally true when my supervisor (the one who really dislikes me) isn’t around. Plus, I was working with some of the nicer people, so things went pretty well.

The interesting thing, though, is that there was an unusual group today (people working on a different shift than usual) and they were a lot more open about complaining. It came up several times that they have lost people and that people were thinking about leaving because of the stress – and they even said specifically that it was “not the stress of the job – I like the job! – but the people we work with and terrible managment” (OK, I cleaned that up a bit). My trainer even came out and said to me not to worry if I felt like everyone was hard on me and that nobody notices what you do unless you screw up. The funny thing was that all of these things came out without me saying ANYTHING about how I feel! (I think I have a pretty good poker face, too, so this was really self-initiated).

It seems pretty clear that the “well-liked” supervisor is simply getting her ass kissed while people are there. I understand that; she’s a bully, just as you said, and intimidates everyone and is harshly critical and demeaning. She is still pretty angry at me, I think, because I saw her briefly a couple times (she was working the previous and subsequent shift – or maybe she was just stressed and tired, I don’t know) and she gave me that vibe. I feel uncomfortable that the other people (including at times my trainer) circle the wagons and don’t defend me when I am blamed, but really the worst part is this individual.

I’m beginning to think that people would be a lot less surprised if I quit because of this individual than I initially thought. I think they’re all pretty sweet to her just to avoid the situation that I’m in, but I can’t be super-friendly with someone who intimidates me.

I’m going to keep looking, but at least I’m not quite as freaked out all of the time. Still, I almost panic when this person enters the room, and for the next month at least it’s going to be very hard to avoid her.

I’m going to try to contact some folks at my old job and see if they do have any contacts – they didn’t have anything a month or so ago, but it doesn’t hurt to check. I miss them! Though it wasn’t perfect, the management there was actually mostly very good. I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand that just a little bit of encouragement or appreciation would make the difference, and that management DOES affect performance! That much is obvious from my own record – but of course she never sees me at my peak, because I can’t loosen up around her when she’s studying my every move.

I think the game plan at this point is to keep looking (fortunately, my job hours do make it possible to interview) until I find something that looks stable. The bad thing is that this job really does have great pay and benefits, and that I’ll get a mandatory raise in a month or two if I stay. And, the work itself IS fun and rewarding, when I’m not panicked about screwing up. Sigh…

I’m still not ruling out quitting on the spot if something really bad happens. That’s just about the only weapon I have, and I will use it. If I have to go face-to-face with this person in 1 on 1 psycho hose beast mode, I may very well just do it and screw the consequences.

I want to tell my family, but I know it would just worry them.

Reading through what you said, I wonder if this woman even knows how to be civil and how to manage people properly? I mean, clearly she doesn’t, but does she realise what effect she’s having? It’s sad to say that some people are clueless. You could do a complete change of tack and rather than avoid her, go at her heads on, but be polite about it and turn it around onto her? Tricky I know, but something like this?

pms-ing BossFromHell:“I don’t believe it! You’ve screwed up again and those reports were supposed to be finished by lunchtime!”

::“I don’t believe that I have screwed up in this instance. I was following your instructions. Perhaps they weren’t as clear as they could’ve been, given your own particular work load? Would you like a hand with anything?”

Or, you could always wait for a packed office go into PHBM & yell at her that she’s a vindictive, bullying…[insert your best insults and swear words here] & wait to be sacked, drag it to the industrial tribunal and see that she’s dismissed and you’re promoted. muahaha. C’mon. You like it, no? :wink:
I’m really pleased to hear that you had a much better day today :slight_smile: