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Old 08-16-2002, 07:11 AM
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Shagging birds in school uniforms: Yeah baby !

I'm not sure what to think of this but I'm putting it here because it could easily wander off course and on to all manner of jagged rocks. Let me explain:

There is a huge party trend in these here parts for something generically known as 'school discos': Every weekend thousands of partying people (from, say, 18-35 years-old) dress in school uniforms and go to organised parties or school-themed clubs. The men in shorts, white shirts, caps and ties; the girls/women in short skirts, fishnet stockings, pony tails, white shirts, ties and, often, with overstated freckles in fact, the women who runs the school uniform shop just down the road occasionally pops in to the pub and says she has never been busier. And certainly, if you're driving around town in the early hours, you'll see many drunken school-uniformed people tripping down the road.

No question; the women look sexy, they know they look sexy and they play up to it with lolly-pop sucking and the whole coyness thing. Just a lot of good old Saturday night fun and sport. Maybe.

And then we have the two 10 year-old girls who are assumed to have been abducted 10 days ago.

Now, I'm not the most politically correct, grumpy old bachelor guy around but; isn't there something wrong about young women and mothers celebrating and exploiting their own sexuality on the back of the apparent appeal of young school girls ?

Finally, I don't know if this social fashion/trend encourages, for example, paedophiles, but surely it contributes (on different conscious and subconscious levels) to the sexual objectification of schoolgirls, indeed the daughters of some of these weekend party goers ?

I think I'm light years away from being a prude but something about all this makes me uncomfortable does fashion and a craving for sexual appreciation blind women to all implications or should I just ignore it all and grab a piece of the action ?

I don't understand.
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Old 08-16-2002, 07:23 AM
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I hope - though I may be wrong - that the allure is more down to memories of one's sexual awakening during adolescence than down to paedophilia. But I don't know.
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Old 08-16-2002, 07:26 AM
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I'm with jjimm on this one. It's a combination of remembering adolescent longings with the ability to actually act on them (with other people thinking the same thing). The whole trend is getting a bit sad, but apparently the School Disco brand is now so successful they're going to open clubs nationwide, and they're the only club brand actually growing/turning a profit at the moment. I can't remember where I read it, but I saw an article about the decline of the dance superclubs (Ministry of Sound etc) and the comparatively explosive rise of nostalgia clubs.
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Old 08-16-2002, 07:33 AM
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Since when has a fad, fashion, or mania ever made sense? At least it's not immediately dangerous, like the whole "choking" thing kids were doing a few years ago, or "Roboing"...
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Old 08-16-2002, 07:34 AM
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Yeah, I guess it raises several backward questions and we've discussed the visual appeal that girls and very young women hold for many men before (albeit unsatisfactorily resolved, IIRC).

Here though, we also have young women and mothers seemingly contributing to the sexual objectification of schoolgirls in some cases of their own daughters in the name of their own sexual appeal and fashion.
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Old 08-16-2002, 07:39 AM
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Sorry, you've lost this old fogey - what's "choking" or "roboing" - are these British trends, or from somewhere else?
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Old 08-16-2002, 07:41 AM
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I don't like to do this but, in my most recent post, "backward" should read 'awkward'.
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Old 08-16-2002, 07:47 AM
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Elizabeth Hurley wore a school uniform in Bedazzled, though she was a teacher.

a-OOOOOOOO-GA!

Carry on.
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Old 08-16-2002, 08:03 AM
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Sorry, you've lost this old fogey - what's "choking" or "roboing" - are these British trends, or from somewhere else?
Nope, from the heartland of the USA.

A few years ago (just a few) a local fad in KC was for boys and girls aged 13-19 to get together at parties, then voluntarily choke each other until they passed out. One person would volunteer (actually, they begged to do it!), and two or three people would hold them down, and another would choke them until they passed out. With girls, the big thing was to be choked by a guy, and not another girl, because letting another girl choke you into unconsciousness meant you were a "lezbo". ( at why a person wanting to flirt with death cares about that...) However, with guys, it was OK - but a guy letting himself be choked by a girl meant he was a "fag". And, depending on which ear he had his earring in whilst being choked...

"Roboing" was simply teens going to parties and binge-drinking Robitussin Cherry Cough Syrup. As you know, Robitussin has many varieties (DM, CX, ZZ, whatever) and there was always a mystical significance attached to the different types. "Dude! I drank 3 bottles of the DM, and it fucked me up!" The code sign for "goin' Robo'in" was for a teen to move his arms as if he was rowing a boat - I saw it done several times with my own eyes.

They would drink from 1-3 (or more, I don't know) bottles. Can you say "LD50", boys and girls? It must be high for Robitussin. Anyhow, later on it moved into cocktails of Robitussin and vodka.

The kids insisted that it was "OK", because "drinking alcohol was illegal, but drinking Robitussin isn't. People should be proud of us; we're not breaking the law." (except for that old "this product shall only be used in accordance with the directions" thingy...)

Anyhow. The practice ended AFAIK a few years ago. Two very scary fads here in KC that surpised me by not ending up with a pile of dead (yet "cool") teens.
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Old 08-16-2002, 09:00 AM
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I always thought that cough syrups generally contained paracetamol, binge drinking it has to lead to a risk of OD.

You really do not wnat to see or hear the effects of paracetamol poisoning, trust me, and if you want to rest easily I wouldn't bother looking it up, its not very nice at all.
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Old 08-16-2002, 11:03 AM
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I don't consider myself a prude either but I'm very distressed by what you've told here. Maybe it started with Britany's like video but it's an unwelcome trend in my book.

I have a young daughter and for her to fall into a category that is being actively focused upon and exploited for it's sexuality is more than a little discomforting.

Thanks for making me aware.
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Old 08-16-2002, 11:20 AM
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The sexy school girl thing is much older than Britany.


Even if you could ban the 'sexualizing of shcoolgirls by having adult women wear them for fun' (or sosbhawwtff) there are tons more things that stimulate psycho-perves. So unless you want to live in a world like THX-1138 just live with 'the danger'.

But still I can't quite imagine the club you are talking about. Please go and take some photos and post them.
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Old 08-16-2002, 11:23 AM
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I think we need to seperate certain practices into categories. Category 1 is harmful activities by minors. These include choking and "roboing."
Category 2 is non harmful activities by consenting adults. Dressing up as school children doesn't mean you want to fuck school children. Having rape fantasies doesn't mean you want to be raped. Playing violent video games doesn't mean you want to shoot up your school and liking Pulp Fiction doesn't mean you want to be tied up in leather and shoved into a basement crate.

Enjoying one thing doesn't necessarily mean you'll want to do another seemingly similar thing.
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Old 08-16-2002, 11:36 AM
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I can understand your concern, but I really don't see how older women wearing something similar to a young girl's clothing is going to stimulate a paedophile. It's just clothing. Young girls look very different from women no matter what they're wearing. (And right now the trend seems to be more of the preteenie-boppers trying to dress older than they actually are.) I would be inclined to agree more with jjimm's take on the matter. If a paedophile wants a young girl or a child, he's going to want a young girl, not a full-grown woman in a costume. He's more interested in the girl's age and development than what she's wearing. (That's the only reason I can think of that someone would want child and not another adult.) The older woman in the schoolgirl outfit bit is just a bunch of older people wanting to act out things they didn't get to do when they were horny young teens, IMO. It's just another form of roleplay. If I wore a sexy cat costume it doesn't mean all the guys that would be aroused by it are into bestiality. Perhaps the recent "schoolgirl" fashion trends make a convenient excuse for the paedophile.

I do own one of these type of outfits. I don't go to clubs, but I did wear it on a children's playground while taking pictures. I certainly don't believe I'm contributing to the abduction of small children. I'm very obviously not 10-12 years old.
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Old 08-16-2002, 11:53 AM
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Zebra - Take a deep breathe ...... and then a lot, lot more.

I guess I'd date the trend back to, at least, the '50's (with the wonderful St Trinian's films) good, clean fun, I guess, in those days.......damn, I'm sounding more and more reactionary......


jinwicked - Maybe you're right. I honestly don't know. I'm not saying dressing as a schoolgirl = encouraging paedophilia but I do wonder at the sexual objectification of the 'schoolgirl thing' by parents.

Maybe it's no big deal......
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Old 08-16-2002, 12:09 PM
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Playboy had an issue a couple years back with models dressed as schoolgirls and they took a lot of heat for it.

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Old 08-16-2002, 01:23 PM
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I'm actually involved in organising one of these 'school disco' parties this September. The one I'm in with is from a lesbian form of the Classmates website, where you can look up / get in contact with other women from your old school who have also come out, and it's going to be a pretty big event. Last week I took several stripy ties and white shirts up to one of our clubs and a few of us posed for photos for the flyers. I'll be giving the flyers out this Saturday too, and God knows what else I'll get roped into helping out with (not that I mind).

I'd never found school uniforms sexy before, but a couple of my friends last week really did look damn hot in them, especially with the adult accoutrements (the fishnets you mentioned). I didn't feel bad about this, as I know they're grown-ups - perhaps that's why the fishnets help, as a reminder of this.

However, despite my personal endorsement of these events, I do see your point. Does making school uniforms on grown-ups sexy make it less taboo to find schoolchildren sexy? Does taking innocent attire and using it to look sexy make that attire intrinsically sexy, even when worn by children?

Or would nascent paedophiles take this safer outlet on, and go for women dressed like schoolgirls rather than the real thing? Perhaps this blurring of boundaries could actually help to define them, because the adults and children in these outfits look similar, but their treatment is different. Very young girls who look sorta sexy are still very young girls who are out of the bounds of acceptable sexuality.

I don't know, I'm going to have to think about it. I'm still going to my 'school disco' though.
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Old 08-16-2002, 02:23 PM
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Is it still okay to fuck sheep?

Whats that? It never was okay? Shit!






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Old 08-16-2002, 07:54 PM
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To the best of my current knowledge, a few years ago, idiots from Indiana were drinking cough syrup as well.



My group of friends used to go out and shoot pool, or speed recklessly on country roads.
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Old 08-16-2002, 08:15 PM
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You really do not wnat to see or hear the effects of paracetamol poisoning, trust me, and if you want to rest easily I wouldn't bother looking it up, its not very nice at all.
Oh, I know it quite well. It's along the lines of "Dude! Where's my liver?"

The worst are people that try to commit suicide by Tylenol (paracetamol) OD - my Ex had a patient that did this. She tried to kill herself, it destroyed her liver, she came to in the ER, and burst out in tears, so thankful that she didn't succeed. She told her family, husband, children tearfully and movingly that she was now changed, she had hit rock-bottom, and she would enter counseling and be a better person.

Then she found out that she had no liver, and was going to die.

She died about 2 weeks later, and it was (I was told) excrutiatingly painful. But the worst thing was her thinking she had a second chance.
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Old 08-16-2002, 08:15 PM
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Now, where was this party again?

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Old 08-16-2002, 09:24 PM
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The sickest thing about this?

School uniforms, in reality, are ugly. I was a Little Catholic School Girl TM in a blue plaid uniform. Picture heavy, itchy, SHINY stiff polyestor. In an ugly blue and red plaid. Now picture it in a longish (past knees) pleated skirt, with a white, round collared blouse, white socks and dress shoes, with a plain navy blue cardigan-a very cheap looking cardigan, that Grampa might wear.

Blech blech blech.
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Old 08-16-2002, 09:57 PM
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London_Calling, I have always found this sort of thing very, very creepy. I don't know if it encourages pedophiles or not, but even if it doesn't it seems. . .wrong, somehow. Even if there is no potential harm to real children (and I'm not certain that this is the case), I don't think it can be good for adult sexual relationships if female sex appeal in general is strongly associated with helplessness and vulnerability.

I've seen other students at my college affect this sort of little girl look (pigtails, lunchbox purses, miniskirt and knee socks), and sometimes I want to just start shouting at them: "You're a GROWN WOMAN! For crying out loud, have a little respect for yourself and act like an ADULT, not some childlike plaything who'll need a man to look out for her forever!" But somehow I manage to restrain myself.
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Old 08-16-2002, 10:15 PM
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Guin, it depends what school you went to. At most public schools in Sydney the girl's uniform can get almost pornographic before the admins cut in. My girlfriends old uniform has a skirt that comes almost but not quite halfway down her thighs.
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Old 08-16-2002, 11:00 PM
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sailor, I deleted your link. Please do not post links of people licking other people.

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Old 08-16-2002, 11:37 PM
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Old 08-17-2002, 02:30 AM
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What about people licking themselves...?

Ok sorry sorry...

This thread is really spoiling my fun.
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Old 08-17-2002, 03:00 AM
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London_Calling, I have always found this sort of thing very, very creepy. I don't know if it encourages pedophiles or not, but even if it doesn't it seems. . .wrong, somehow. Even if there is no potential harm to real children (and I'm not certain that this is the case), I don't think it can be good for adult sexual relationships if female sex appeal in general is strongly associated with helplessness and vulnerability.

The impression I got from the OP was that both men and women dress in school uniforms at these parties. Anyway, I think school uniforms are sexy, they were sexy when I was at school and they are sexy now (worn by the right person). I agree with Jimm, I think we often associate school uniforms with:

1. Unrequited love
2. Sexual awakenings
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4. Lots of if-only-I-knew-then-what-I-know-now situations

Though I wouldn't attend a school-uniform party (just cause I'm not into dressing up and stuff), I understand the motivations of someone who would and I don't see anything wrong with them. I don't see that it would encourage paedaphiles (sp?).
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Old 08-17-2002, 03:06 AM
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BTW I think that the type of school uniform that is associated with being sexy is rather stylised, I would rather that my daughter (if I had one) not wear a school uniform in the stereotypical sexy way, ie very short skirt, knee high boots, fishnet stockings , I think that most sensible school girls don't wear their uniforms like this.

Oh and one more thing, perhaps the alure of a uniform for a paedophile (alternate sp?) is a good reason to do away with uniforms all together. This assumes such an alure exists.
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Old 08-17-2002, 03:10 AM
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Oh and one more thing, perhaps the alure of a uniform for a paedophile (alternate sp?) is a good reason to do away with uniforms all together. This assumes such an alure exists.
This is (on re-reading) a bullshit statement as I understand that most paedophilia (I've settled on that spelling) involves boys rather than girls, and doing away with school uniforms obviously isn't going to do away with paedophilia.

Ok, I'll shutup now.
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Old 08-17-2002, 03:18 AM
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Shouldn't that be dependant upon which part of the other person is being licked? And the context in which it is?

I'm afraid I'll need to see the pic to determine the veracity of that edit.

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Old 08-17-2002, 04:42 AM
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Lynn I can completely understand you deleted the link because of policy. Just wanted to say, obviously IMHO, that it was a little unfortunate in this case as it illustrated the OP perfectly: No face, just a side view of a woman of indeterminate age dressed as a schoolgirl at a party or club with her blouse open and with a man licking a nipple. However, rules is rules.


Regarding the OP, the breaking news here this morning is that a 28-year old man and a 25 year-old woman have been charged with the murder (and he with the abduction) of the two 10 year-old girls mentioned in the OP he is/was the caretaker at the school the girls attended. The bodies of Jessica and Holly have not yet been found but articles (probably of clothing) have been removed from the caretaker's house.

God help those poor girls. God help their grieving families.

I imply no generalised, society level linkage between points one and two (immediately above) because I have no friggin clue.


Q restated: Does the fact that thousands of women (including mothers) will tonight dress as highly sexualised, provocative under 16 year-old girls contribute in any sense to a dumbing down, a blurring of the boundaries (well put, QueenAl), a sense of 'less unacceptance' (sic) of schoolgirls as objects of desire yep, fantasy and action are wholly distinct. But, at the same time, is it wholly responsible ?

Thanks for the responses so far. Some have been really helpful. Only one though, I believe, from a mother. Anyone else ?
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Old 08-17-2002, 04:51 AM
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Have there been any studies to suggest that paedophiles are affected by uniforms or other evidence of being of school age?

I'd agree that there has been a more public sexualisation of school (girl) outfits, but I'm not sure if a link could be drawn to paedophilia. Schoolgirls sometimes wear some pretty damn risque outfits regardless (and always have, at least as far back as I can remember). I'm still inclined to view the School Disco phenomenon as separate and more about a nostalgia for adolescent innocence combined with a relief that it's all nice and legal now.

All of the people I know who've been to the club are twentysomething or thirtysomething office types, looking for cheap thrills. I'm not sure whether any other uniform fetish wouldn't have had the same effect (the school fetish being chosen since it's something everyone would have experienced, unlike, say, a nursing fetish).
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:00 AM
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Roboing

I Yahooed it and apparently it also means taking "X," ecstasy. You kids today with your groovy lingo.
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:03 AM
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Crusoe/Matt Paedophilia is, if you will, the more tabloidy, sensationalist end of the potential spectrum, IMHO. For example, there is no suggestion to my knowledge, that the caretaker currently charged with the two girls abduction and murder was a paedophile yet he, or someone, did what they did anyway.

Is the difference between a paedophile the difference between thought and action if so, what contributes (if anything does at all), on a society level, to an individual crossing that boundary ?

See restated Q (above)
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:08 AM
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I think I'm the only one in the thread so far that's been to one of these parties.

There's a pub in town that runs a weekly schoolies party. Let me stress this isn't some kind of fringe event. This is a popular, "fashionable" pub in the middle of town. The people that go there are quite normal. For the night in question, I broke out my school-leaving shirt (uniform shirt covered with handwritten messages -- largely obscene ). I even found a school cap.

It was a good night. Incredibly silly theme, but a lot of good fun.

I don't think this has anything to do with paedophilia or even the the sexual objectification of schoolgirls. Remember that the men dress up as school boys too. You may have women pretending to be school girls -- and acting very sexual -- but they're with men pretending to be school boys. (Gawd, sounds so silly put that way!) This takes it out of the realm of "corrr! shagging school birds!" into silly nostalgia for our high school days.
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:10 AM
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Interesting question. Without wanting to spark a semantic debate, though, isn't a paedophile defined by thought as much as action? We simply don't see 'thought paedophiles' in the public eye because they haven't done anything to be noticed.

IMHO (and this is just IMHO) there is something 'different' between a fetish for schoolgirls in uniform and a fetish for schoolgirl uniforms. I can't explain it well, but to me it suggests a kind of roleplaying. While I can't deny it might be disturbing to many, I have a feeling that any genuine schoolgirl going to one of these clubs would be kicked out sharpish. I hope. Are the lines blurring? I honestly don't know; I'd thought of these clubs as 'safe' places to live out seedy nostalgia removed from the very real worries and moral guilt of acting on the 'real thing'. I haven't seen much in the way of school sexualisation in the media beyond what I was always used to.

I'm rambling here. In short; is it the schoolgirl, or the school uniform?
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:17 AM
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Yep Narrod, but with all due respect, you - and your views on you - aren't the issue. If you read my last couple of posts you'll see that, perhaps, the question is: What contributes to potential abdutors/paedophiles crossing that boundary (from thought to action) on a society level - does blurring the boundaries, does dumbing down. Does it make the temptation less easy, less problematic, to resist ?
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Old 08-17-2002, 05:50 AM
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an opinion from a mother:

Adult women dressing as schoolgirls does not mean they are or are condoning sexualising of young school girls.

1. As various posters have said, it's more about reliving past times, except this time you're not a spotty, awkward teenager. Adults like nostalgia. Adults like sex. Put the two together...

2. The dressing up-school uniform is a highly stylized, cartoonish version - how many real schoolgirls wear stockings and suspenders, or lsuck suggestively on lollipops ?

3. My 12 y.o. wears trousers, a loose blouse, sweatshirt and sensible shoes. she dresses for comfort and to obey school rules. Closer to the "sexy schoolgirl look" are some of the older girls (15 -ish) will often wear very short skirts and tight blouses. They choose to do so, because they want to look sexy. It's mostly for the benefit of the boys in the school next door. These boys, being of a similar age and with as many raging hormones will find them sexy, and may devote great deal of time and effort into making their fantasies reality. This is what teenagers do.

4) Adult men may also find these older girls sexy - this is fair enough (the girls are dressing to be sexy, after all), so long as they remember that , first these girls have not dressed with them in mind, it is not for their benefit. And second, even if it were, as a responsible adult, they do not encourage the behaviour, convince themselves that this kid is different and it's ok to form and adult relationship etc.

Personally, if anything mainstream can be said to be sexualising children or pandering to paedophiles, I'd suggest it is feel the cult of youth, where only young, lithe, fresh faced girls are considered attractive.

This, I think is where the uncomfortable, guilty feelings of sensible adult men come from - the conflict between finding a teenager attractive, since this is the image that the media bombards us with, and not wanting to, because this is not acceptable behaviour.
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Old 08-17-2002, 06:09 AM
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Hasnt this type of thing been popular in japan and the like for ages ?

In fact according to jlist (its a company that imports japanese stuff to america) has said its "sailor" suit is one of the most popular items sent to the us

So maybe its just hit mainstream ?
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Old 08-17-2002, 12:57 PM
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I got worried when I saw a cub-scout cap sticking out from under my friends bed until he explained he was at one of these partys

In broad generalisations I don't find this dodgey. Obviously, there are a couple of damage bastards in every bunch, but that is true of any population. As far as I have understood it, the difference here is that these women are dressing up as schoolgirls in the same way as a dragqueen is dressing up as a woman. It's a cartoon, caricature, parody and salutation. The key point I think is not to be as authentic as possible, but to be as fun as possible, perhaps even as extreme as possible.

The whole Brittany issue is for me a different one. She was going for "slutty 16" look. There I think the lines get blurred, not in terms of paedos, who are out after children (please can we keep the concepts of prepubescent children, and very young adults separate?), but I think it does however blur the lines for those who can perhaps somehow find a way to justify improper behaviour with a 14 year old...
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My dogs breath smells like dog bum but I promise not to post any photos of him licking his butt.

L_C, I wonder if may be in part the fantasy of the innocent virgin being taught sexuality by an experienced man in a safe (and legal) manner, (i.e. consenting adults). I don't think it portrays children but sexual naivete and the power the man has to teach the "virgin" how to please him.

Then again, maybe I have watched one too many pornos.
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I'm not sure whether any other uniform fetish wouldn't have had the same effect (the school fetish being chosen since it's something everyone would have experienced, unlike, say, a nursing fetish).
Nurses! Where!.....runs home to pounce on his RN wife.
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Royal Navy? Nahh.
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Old 08-17-2002, 08:08 PM
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The sickest thing about this?

School uniforms, in reality, are ugly. I was a Little Catholic School Girl TM in a blue plaid uniform. Picture heavy, itchy, SHINY stiff polyestor. In an ugly blue and red plaid. Now picture it in a longish (past knees) pleated skirt, with a white, round collared blouse, white socks and dress shoes, with a plain navy blue cardigan-a very cheap looking cardigan, that Grampa might wear.

Blech blech blech.
***cough*** JPEGs?
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Sorry, you've lost this old fogey - what's "choking" or "roboing" - are these British trends, or from somewhere else?
Choking - Either rigging up something to asphyxiate yourself with or having someone else do it with their hands. Often used in conjunction with huffing inhalants (as seen in "Life as a House"). Not done to the point of unconsciousness if it's done right, taken right to the edge. Seriously stupid brain-cell death thrill.

Roboing - AKA Robotripping. Taking a massive dose of Robitussin or another cough remedy that has the active ingredient Dextromethorphan. DXM, as it is called on the street, is a member of the dissociative anaesthetic family, related to Ketamine and PCP. Depending on dosage and how long you've been using (long term users get more intense effects from the same dose) DXM produces anything from a sensation not unlike a marijuana high to intense auditory and visual hallucinations combined with total dissociation from the body. DXM is can be legally acquired in pure form from pharmaceutical companies and is often sold on the street as a recreational drug. It is also commonly mixed with or sold as Ecstacy. This stuff requires some education to use in medicine form, as many cough remedies contain other active ingredients that are dangerous in high doses, and most contain an ingredient that is there solely to induce vomiting if you take a very high dose, preventing people from using it recreationally. Robitussin Maximum Strength Cough and it's generic counterparts are the only kind I know of that has no active ingredients other than DXM.

I feel I should add to this post that I have been clean and sober for quite a while now, after a difficult breakup lead to heavy drug use and a speed addiction that was a lot of work to break. It seemed appropriate to mention all of that in a post that includes such extensive knowledge of this kind of thing.

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L_C, I wonder if may be in part the fantasy of the innocent virgin being taught sexuality by an experienced man in a safe (and legal) manner, (i.e. consenting adults). I don't think it portrays children but sexual naivete and the power the man has to teach the "virgin" how to please him.
It's been pointed out that the men wear schoolboy uniforms at these clubs. If this is a fantasy, it's not about the headmaster spanking a female student. It's about school kids only.

The uniforms are all right in a club setting, but

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I've seen other students at my college affect this sort of little girl look (pigtails, lunchbox purses, miniskirt and knee socks)
that is tacky. Wearing any kind of club clothes is daylight (to class! In front of the person who's responsible for your grade!) is tacky.
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Forgot to mention that one of the things my mate finds the most fun at these parties is the "return to innocence" thing. He loves screwing up the courage to go over to one of the girls and asking her does she want to dance when one of the slow-dances comes on. Kissing for an hour and hoping to "cop a feel" is also exciting. Apparantly (he says) it's not the meat market that other nightclubs are where its taken for granted that if you start flirting with somone you will end up sleeping with them that night.
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I feel I should add to this post that I have been clean and sober for quite a while now, after a difficult breakup lead to heavy drug use and a speed addiction that was a lot of work to break. It seemed appropriate to mention all of that in a post that includes such extensive knowledge of this kind of thing.

LC
Good job, Lucki! Glad to hear it!
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Old 08-18-2002, 12:28 PM
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that is tacky. Wearing any kind of club clothes is daylight (to class! In front of the person who's responsible for your grade!) is tacky.
Define club clothes.
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