air traffic control recordings from 9/11/2001

Does anyone know of a link to Air Traffic Control recordings from Sept 11, 2001. What I am interested in is how did controllers shut down the entire country? What did they say and how did they move people into safe airports? Was there mass confusion and hysteria?

The closest I could find was a recording of a Cleveland controller looking for United Flight 93. There is the garbled voice of a highjacker, but no other signal from the plane. What struck me is the calm, professionalism of the controller as he asked other pilots to help him locate the missing aircraft and the calm way the pilots responded.

I’m not so much interested in recordings of the doomed aircraft as much as knowing how controllers managed to get so many aircraft on the ground in such a short time. Do they practice for that sort of thing?

Did they order the planes to the ground right away? I just figured they let any planes that were in the air to go to their destinations but canceled all takeoffs. If they did order them to land as soon as possible, I’m guessing they just did what they always do. Directed aircraft through standard arrival routes, having them hold as necessary for spacing. The approach controllers were no doubt in contact with center controllers (as they always are) letting them know how many more aircraft they can handle or whether to stop sending them their way.

I don’t imagine they did anything different than they do every day at 5pm at major airports around the country. Except on 9-11-01 they didn’t have to worry about planes taking off.

Drum God,
I was flying on 9/11/2001, but I was in Central America heading back to the US. The controller told us that US airspace was closed and to return to where we had departed from. Everyone turned around and began talking to whomever they were talking to before.
From talking to people flying in the US on 9/11, they were told to land at the nearest suitable field, even if it was behind them. Small private airplanes can land almost anywhere, but airliners full of passengers need gates with jetbridges, fuel, etc. Suitable in this case meant any airport with a long enough runway and a terminal that handles airliners. Now, this did cause problems as multiple transcon airliners landed at Podunk Field that had only one or two gates. However, the directive was to get everyone on the ground RIGHT NOW.

There is a plan for this type of thing, referred to as SCATANA, but it was mostly a cold-war relic and involved things like shutting down civilian-only navaids (thus our military airplanes could still navigate, but Russian bombers couldn’t use our own navaids to home in on Washington). The advent of self-contained navigation (Loran,INS, and now GPS) pretty much made this exercise pointless. However, like any good government bureaucracy inertia reigned and every agency still was required to “practice” SCATANA annually. This usually involved nothing more than reading over procedures and counting a lot of beans, then documenting that all the beans got counted. In short, it in no way prepared the ATC system for what happened on 9/11/2001.

The success in getting every airplane out of the sky is due to the professionalism of the controllers and the pilots in rapidly dealing with an unknown situation. I would suggest that if you listened to tapes of every ARTCC when the order came down you would hear nothing but calm, professional orders and transmissions.

Rest assured that the government does nothing better than fight the last battle over and over, so NOW you can bet that conrollers are trained and practice and are tested on how to get every airplane on the ground rapidly.

Watching one of the many 9/11 news shows yesterday, the FAA’s part was discussed, and it was mentioned that no plan existed to get rid of all CONUS air traffic. After reading about SCATANA, pilot, I’d have to agree. It comes close, but doesn’t seem to me to apply to what happened on 9/11. It mainly addresses taking control of all air traffic (part of which is to land all VFR traffic and have them refile IFR) and civilian navaids. I didn’t see any mention of immediately landing all air traffic or keeping the VFR flights on the deck once they’d refiled.

But you’re right about everything else. Aircraft were given vectors to the nearest suitable field. And I’m sure there’s a specific plan now in existence addressing this scenario.

I am a controller at NY TRACON, the approach control facility for Newark, Kennedy, LaGuardia as well as a whole bunch of other little airports around NY. I was working 9/11/01. I really can’t say a whole lot. The FAA does not want us to make public statements. That is not a reflection on anything to hide. It is a standard term of employment that we not make public comments on anything noteworthy. I can tell you this…

There was no hysteria on anyone’s part involved in the NAS (National Airspace System). There is no way to train for an operation of this magnitude. However, as Pilot141 said, pilots and controllers (not to leave anyone else out) take tremendous pride in safely and efficiently getting millions of passengers to where they need to go. Shortly after it became apparent that this was a coordinated attack using planes as weapons, ALL planes were ordered to land immediately. There were approximately 5000 IFR (instrument flight rules aircraft- think commercial/corporate jets/some small aircraft) as well as God knows how many VFR (visual flight rules- mostly small aircraft) in the air at the time. As I said, there was no way to train on the procedure of landing EVERY aircraft ASAP. Air traffic in the US is fairly structured. But all of those concepts had to go out the window. Flexibilty and experience were key to accomplishing the task. If you were a visitor that day, you probably wouldn’t even have really known anything out of the ordinary was happening. An air traffic facility (especially one in a major city) is a fairly hopping place even on a good day. There was an excellent Dateline NBC special last nite (9/11) that explained everything in great detail. It was really well done. I would suggest getting your hands on a copy if you are really interested.

I am always impressed with the professionalism of the commercial pilots in this country. They do an incredible job under sometimes intense pressure. I try to model them in how I approach my job. If you want to hear an impressive speaker, look up Capt Al Haynes who was the Captain on the United Souix City, Iowa crash (sorry the flight number escapes me). Those ATC tapes are available to the public I believe. Capt. Haynes is an American Hero in my eyes.

Now Pilot141…how 'bout a FAM ride?:slight_smile:

Geez, zydecat, do you really want to sit up there and watch us miss all those frequency changes?:stuck_out_tongue:

I agree with you, though, on the outstanding efforts that everyone made when the word went out to have every airplane land. The fact that the general public has no idea that something extraordinary happened is a testament to the professionalism of the controllers - just another hiccup in the system- nothing to see here.

I was lucky enough to see Al Haynes speak about a year after the crash in Sioux City. He is, as you say, a model for everyone. The lessons learned from UAL 232 can teach everyone about how to react and behave in a crisis.

Since 9/11 and the reduction in flying I’ve been forced back to domestic flying, so a FAM ride would involve nothing exotic. Although if you don’t bust me when I miss the crossing restriction at KORRY, I can set you up with a sweet El Paso layover! :smiley:

See you on the radio!

Take a look at the pics on Gander’s runway (Newfoundland). Our paper (The Ottawa Citizen) show a chronographic set of pictures of the planes as they lined up. From 8:45 to 6. By 6 it was scary to see so many planes.

When it became apparent that airplanes were being hijacked my husband turn on our aviation-band scanner shortly before the “everybody land” order came.

I should mention that we normally scan on the general aviation frequencies, since that’s the sort of flying we do.

Anyhow, he said it was broadcast on pretty much all frequencies over a period of a very few minutes that there was a “national emergency” and every one was to land IMMEDIATELY at the nearest airport.

He did mention that one or two pilots questioned this - remember, these guys were up in the air, flying VFR and not expecting to hear from a controller, and were mostly confused. The order was repeated a couple more times, and clarified that this applied to everybody and would be enforced by the Air Force.

He said after that it was busy, but very much business as usual.

I do find it sad that no mention has been made of the pilots who landed at the non-towered airports. Non-towered airports do not have air traffic controllers, and certainly the controllers were too busy to lend any aid to these airports. Pilots landing at such fields were responsible for their own traffic control - as is always the case - but the traffic was much, much busier than usual.

Please note - there was not a single injury involved in this massive, unprecedented, and unforeseen operation.

Really, it was a group effort of air traffic control, the pilots, and the ground crews, who had to shuffle planes around so those that landed had someplace to go once off the runway.

Sorting things out afterwards took some doing as well. For instance, at my home field there were several business jets grounded because they ran out of their supply of jet fuel, there were so many unexpected landing there. That sort of thing played out over and over across the country.

I’ve been unable to post for a few days…

I just wanted to thank you pilots and controllers who read this board for the excellent job you do. I am always amazed at the calm, professional demeanor of aviation professionals under even the most dire of circumstances. The events of 9/11/01 must have been startling for all concerned. I can’t imagine what pilots and controllers must have been feeling as they guided their crafts to safe harbors.

The professionalism of Air Force pilots impresses me as well. Surely they didn’t imagine that they would be flying combat patrol over domestic targets. Having scrabled to their patrol routes, their hearts must have been racing wondering what would come next and knowing that they had orders to down large civilian aircraft.

Good luck to all of you and stay safe.

Here’s a link to a really great story in USA Today about it.

Here’s part 2.