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Old 05-06-2003, 07:12 PM
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Is Carrot Top a comedy genius? Is anti-comedy the true existential comedy?

In reading this MSNBC article - Carrot Top:Better dead than red

I'm starting to think that Carrot Top might be a comedy genuis. His comedy is so annoying it is subversive to all that is decent and right. With this in mind maybe he's not on the final edge of his 15 minutes, but is on the verge of a whole new thing. But what...possibly a form of existential anti-comedy for the cynical new age? Anti-laughs for the new anti-comedy. The sound of one hand not clapping. His comedy is so deep I can't hear the waves.

It's naptime.
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:46 PM
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I think you are reading far too much into this.
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:49 PM
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It's wayyyyyyy beyond naptime. It's Call-the-white-cloaked-fellows, get-a-padded-room, and-fill-up-on-Lithium time.
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:54 PM
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What a frightening thread title.
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:55 PM
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Whatever happened to dick-and-fart (c) jokes?
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Old 05-06-2003, 09:24 PM
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If not being funny means BEING funny, then Colin Quinn is an effing GOD.
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Old 05-06-2003, 09:44 PM
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!A implying A presents a contradiction. If Carrot Top is funny through being not funny, then he is not not funny. Since this would mean that Carrot Top is funny, !A obviously cannot imply A.
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Old 05-06-2003, 10:01 PM
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::shudders:: Carrot Top. ::retch:: Not even remotely funny.
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Old 05-06-2003, 11:17 PM
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And off we go to Cafe Society.
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Old 05-06-2003, 11:27 PM
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I agree Carrot Top epitomizes anti-comedy. I also agree that the AT&T ads are sufficiently annoying to be memorable. But the American "Meritocracy" was always a sham, and to see Carrot Top is a genius is to say that Ray Jay Johnson was one too. Go to bed.
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Old 05-06-2003, 11:46 PM
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Is Carrot Top a comedy genius? Is anti-comedy the true existential comedy?

Nope. Next question.

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Old 05-06-2003, 11:55 PM
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Is Carrot Top a comedy genius? Is anti-comedy the true existential comedy?

Yes. If yes means "absolutely positively not, not ever, even remotely, in a million billion kajillion years."
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Old 05-06-2003, 11:59 PM
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No.
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Old 05-07-2003, 01:52 AM
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If not being funny means BEING funny, then Colin Quinn is an effing GOD.
And Norm Mac Donald, Jerry Seinfeld and Adam Sandler complete the quadrality.
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Old 05-07-2003, 02:03 AM
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Ahem...Norm McDonald is hilarious.

Carrot Top? I don't understand what people have against the guy. One of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life was when he handed Shaq a basketball with a scope on it.
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Old 05-07-2003, 06:30 AM
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If comedy is pain, then can we make Carrot Top really really funny, please?
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Old 05-07-2003, 08:41 AM
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Let's not forget the Anti-Comedy Patron Saint:

Andy Kaufman.
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Old 05-07-2003, 09:03 AM
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to see Carrot Top is a genius is to say that Ray Jay Johnson was one too
He wasn't?
And now I suppose you'll say the unknown comic wasn't a genius either.
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Old 05-07-2003, 09:59 AM
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I've always found Carrot Top's prop comedy and annoying guy persona hilarious.
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:04 AM
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"His comedy is so annoying it is subversive to all that is decent and right."

What a way to sell long distance phone service.....not!
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:10 AM
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Think about this- most of the time when you hear a really funny joke, you immediately forget it because you were laughing so hard. On the other hand, if something whips you into a white-hot frenzy of anger, you'll probably seethe about it for hours if not days. As the article in the OP says "I will probably remember C-A-L-L-A-T-T for at least 15 years."
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:53 AM
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I like Carrot Top. Norm MacDonald too. Keep in mind Carrot Top commercials do not equal Carrot Top comedy.
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:59 AM
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Carrot Top and funny are mutually exclusive terms. He reminds me of other unfunny, annoying comedians from years past: Emo Phillips, Pee Wee Herman in his stand-up days, Louis Anderson, et. al.
Why did God take Chris Farley and leave Carrot Top? Why God? Why?
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Old 05-07-2003, 11:20 AM
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Keep in mind Carrot Top commercials do not equal Carrot Top comedy.


Exactly.

Is it the commercials that make people hate him? I've never really cared for them but his comedy is hilarious.
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Old 05-07-2003, 01:58 PM
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Anti-comedy, be it from Carrot-top or Andy Kauffman, is about as useful as human male nipples. Who wants to go to turn on the TV and be deliberately annoyed just for annoyance's sake? Comedy is to entertain and occasionally enlighten and not just bust people's chops for the enjoyment of the performer.
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Old 05-07-2003, 02:32 PM
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I have seen CarrotTop live and thought that he was very funny. However, his commercials are very annoying.

It has always been said that your career was over when you had to start doing the Hollywood Squares - but I think the same might be said when you must start doing telephone comercials...
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:11 PM
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I like Carrot Top. Norm MacDonald too. Keep in mind Carrot Top commercials do not equal Carrot Top comedy.
I agree. I even think Pauley Shore is funny. Stupid funny.
But I'll deny saying it.
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Old 05-07-2003, 03:56 PM
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There has been a certain group of comedians in recent years who have played off the intentionally as unfunny as possible so that it's funny because your expectations are that they should be funny.

It's not a bad idea and certainly can be humorous except for one tiny, insignifigant problem: the fact that it's a one-note joke and once the audience is no longer ammused by it you're left with someone who isn't funny.

Oh, and Carrot Top is more annoying than intentionally unfunny.
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:21 PM
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Carrot Top is indeed a comedy genius.

Or maybe I just needed to say something really evil for post #666.
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Old 05-07-2003, 10:41 PM
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He would be a comedy genius next to that Neil Hamburger character that was on Jimmy Kimmel last night. Whatta train wreck.
I see him occasionally on the Comedy Network's Just for Laughs shows. Pretty good stand-up act.
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Old 05-08-2003, 01:59 AM
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I like Carrot Top. Norm MacDonald too. Keep in mind Carrot Top commercials do not equal Carrot Top comedy.
I am. But I don't think he's funny. Nor do I find funny any of the others I mentioned. I used to cringe when Norm did SNL's Evening News and ran through a bland joke with his bedpan delivery... then asked the audience if he wasn't funny enough.

But Carrot Top commercials... they are the setting stroke of the last nail in his coffin.
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Old 05-08-2003, 03:04 AM
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It's not a bad idea and certainly can be humorous except for one tiny, insignifigant problem: the fact that it's a one-note joke and once the audience is no longer ammused by it you're left with someone who isn't funny.


Hmm. So you're saying that being unfunny is funny, in that there is a humorous dichotimy between not being funny and humor. Eventually, the audience tires of this, but the comedian persists, and so really becomes unfunny, which is what they already were, so they thus become meta-unfunny, thus rising to levels of hilarity unreachable by more urbane routes of humor-seeking. Until, this meta-unfunniness approach loses its appeal. But, the comedian still persists, and is thus meta-meta-unfunny...and so on for an infinite iterations, each rising higher and higher upon the funniness scale. Such is genius. Is this correct?
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Old 05-08-2003, 04:55 PM
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Y'know, some of Carrot Top's gimmicks might actually be funny, if they were done by a commedian. Let Gallagher go through Carrot Top's prop collection, and he'd (rightly) have people rolling in the aisles. But Carrot Top has absolutely no delivery, whatsoever. All he does is go through a pile of props, and say "This is a ____. This is a _____. This is a _____.".

If that's the kind of "comedy" I wanted, I would turn on C-SPAN.
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Old 05-10-2003, 11:31 PM
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Carrot Top and funny are mutually exclusive terms. He reminds me of other unfunny, annoying comedians from years past: Emo Phillips, Pee Wee Herman in his stand-up days, Louis Anderson, et. al.
Why did God take Chris Farley and leave Carrot Top? Why God? Why?
Now, see, here you go. I like the early stand-up days of Emo, Pee Wee, Carrot Top (I'm leaving Louis Anderson out of this). Add to that Andy Kaufman and Judy Tenuto. Weird. Full of self-referential irony. In fact, the early Steve Martin was like that. And what do all these comedians (in the early stages of their careers) have in common? Popularity with the teen/college crowd. And not simply because of sex/drugs jokes.

So, I'm so sorry, Scumpup. You're just not young, cool, and hip anymore.

Now, I'll grant that when you take these comedians and try to make them fit into some other type of performance (comic roles, commercials, talk shows, etc...) the results can vary greatly from genius to train wreck.


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