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Old 06-30-2003, 10:04 AM
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Why Do People Drive Convertibles?

What exactly is the appeal of the convertible automobile?

For starters, they have a higher initial cost than an equivalent hardtop. They're also less safe than a hardtop, particularly in a rollover or if you slam into an SUV that rides higher off of the ground.

They are much noisier, even with the top up. And your hair gets all messed up if you drive with the top down. Structurally, their frames are not as rigid, so they don't handle as well as hardtops unless the underside is heavily reinforced. The have more aerodynamic drag, so they're slower and get worse gas mileage than a hardtop.

And then there's the issue of theft. You might as well just leave the door wide open because anyone with a pocket knife can get inside in just a few seconds.

And then think of all the dirt and bird poop you get on the roof of your car. Image what it would be like if all of this got on the *inside* of your car.

I could probably come up with several more reasons for *not* driving a convertible, but I can't think of any good reasons *for* driving a convertible.

So why would anybody want to own such a vehicle?

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Old 06-30-2003, 10:10 AM
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I've owned a couple of convertibles and can say that driving with hood down on a beautiful, sunny day is one of lifes most enjoyable guilty pleasures. Its hard to describe why, it just is.

Its important to live in the right climate for them though. I owned mine when I was in San Francisco because the surrounding area has pretty much the perfect climate for them; sunny and hot but not so hot that you fry. Here in the UK owning a convertible is purely for the purpose of vanity. It is very, very rarely hot enough to really enjoy a convertible. Even when the temperature is high, you still freeze your ass off at 70 mph here.
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Old 06-30-2003, 10:14 AM
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I LOVE my convertible.

Why drive it? Well, why do people like eating meals outside? Or sitting outside on the porch on a nice day? It's NICE to be outside, breathing fresh air and feeling the wind on your face. I don't give a rat's ass about my hair getting messed up or the gas mileage. The feeling of driving my cute lil' car with the top down is WONDERFUL.

As far as dirt and bird poop - I have never once had a bird poop in my car. It does get dusty on long drives, but in general I've had very little difficulty getting it clean again. Vacuums work wonders.

I think it all comes down to... if you have to ask, you'll never understand. You either get it or you don't. So just sit in yer hardtop and leave the fresh air to us convertible people!
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Old 06-30-2003, 10:22 AM
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Because they're fun. I love the feel of wind in my hair, and I don't mind brushing it again when we get where we're going if need be.

Besides, you know that horrible, stuffy heat that builds up in your car during a summer day? The one that it takes several minutes of A/C to get rid of? My husband just pops back the roof for a second, and POOF! it's all gone. He can leave the top down, or put it back up, but either way the difference is incredible.

I wouldn't have picked his car out for myself. The seats don't fit my butt and back right, and there's something funky about the way the steering wheel is positioned relative to the seat and pedals, and the rear window is tiny. But that's why it's his car and not mine. He has just as many problems with my beloved little Saturn.

However, his Cabrio gets really good gas mileage, handles well, is pretty quiet, and has a roll bar for safety. As for the bird poop, I've never seen any in it, mainly because he puts the top up when he parks. And it's just as easy to break the window in a hardtop as it is to cut through a convertible top, so I guess I might as well leave my doors wide open, too.
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Old 06-30-2003, 10:23 AM
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I've vacillated for years about getting one. Time was when I really, really wanted one, but now I'm not sure I see the value of it for day-to-day driving. I did rent one for a road trip once, though, and it was fantastic.

On the plus side, to address one of the drawbacks listed in the OP, the prices as compared to comparable hard tops are still higher, but not ridiculously so as used to be the case.
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Old 06-30-2003, 12:33 PM
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I had an orange '75 MGB in college. There was nothing like driving that bad boy through the country. It's halving the experience of a motorcycle with 100x more safety.

Ok, maybe you can't call an MG a "bad boy". Let's just say roadster.
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Old 06-30-2003, 01:17 PM
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I think a convertible would be a nice second car, but I wouldn't want one as my main. I had a friend with one and it seemed to be a huge hassle. Though it could be fun!
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Old 06-30-2003, 04:26 PM
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I second the "If you have to ask, you'll never understand." Go rent one or something. Nothing better than cuising around on a beautiful summer evening with the top down, tunes on the stereo, watching the sun go down, ahh....

I'm no sure I would get one as my primary vehicle, though. In our case, it was car #5, so no biggie i it wasn't practical. In fact, not being practical was kinda the point.
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Old 06-30-2003, 04:56 PM
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I've had a little Miata as my only car for years now. The only downside is having people fight over who gets to ride with me. It gets better gas mileage than my last car, handles amazingly well, and has a little hard top I can snap on when convertible season is over. If I don't want my hair to get blown around I put it in a pony tail or wear a scarf.

Some people think it's an inconvinience, but in eight years I've never not been able to do something or had a bad experience because of my car. Heck, my friend with a sedan called me when she bought a ladder and I was able to put the top down and drive the ladder right on home. The looks I get when I've bought my Christmas tree are priceless, too.
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Old 06-30-2003, 05:39 PM
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I'd like to know why people drive convertibles with the top up and the windows wide open. If you're not going to put the top down on a nice day, why bother having a convertible at all?

BTW: I'm 6'2; I'd love to have a convertible so I can put the top down (weather permitting) and not have to duck on entrance/exit. Same for a targa or a T-top.
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Old 06-30-2003, 06:12 PM
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Because they are sexxxxxyyyy!

The extra headroom can be very useful , you can pack a lot of furniture into the back seat with the roof down. Driving with the top down is just more intense than with a hard top car. You get better all round view, you hear other vehicles, smell the trees, and feel the wind through your hair.
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Old 06-30-2003, 06:29 PM
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I drove a 69 Triumph TR-6. An 86 Mustang conv. A couple of motor bikes. A 74 Camaro with an after market sun roof almost as big as the car. An 84 'Vette with T-Tops.

(Damn, that's a lot of diff cars, huh?!)

Just something about open air driving.
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Old 06-30-2003, 06:30 PM
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Because it is fun to drive. Because it (used to) get me more ass than a toilet seat at a girls school. Because I can afford to.

Your "assumptions" about fuel milage and handling are bunk, especially when you consider many convertables are only offered in that form, so there is no baseline for comparison. Sure, a BMW 325 convertable is slightly less stiff than a coupe, but not enough to matter in the real world.

So, like 99% of your querys, it can be summed up with "Because people like to".

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Old 06-30-2003, 07:35 PM
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My first car was a 1966 MGB roadster that I got secondhand from my mom. Its top stowed in the boot, so if it started to rain I'd get a little wet. But there was nothing like driving it on a cool sunny day. I owned two used 1977 MGBs concurrently, and I am having a 1966 MGB restored now.
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They're also less safe than a hardtop, particularly in a rollover or if you slam into an SUV that rides higher off of the ground.
My motorcycle is "less safe" than a convertible. I have nothing between me and that SUV except for my helmet.
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They are much noisier, even with the top up. And your hair gets all messed up if you drive with the top down. Structurally, their frames are not as rigid, so they don't handle as well as hardtops unless the underside is heavily reinforced. The have more aerodynamic drag, so they're slower and get worse gas mileage than hardtop.
Convertibles are designed to be as rigid as they need to be. Not an issue. My motorcycle is much noisier than my MGBs were, what with the deafening wind noise on the helmet. And the helmet messes up my hair every time I ride it.
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And then there's the issue of theft. You might as well just leave the door wide open because anyone with a pocket knife can get inside in just a few seconds.
Same with a bike. My entire Vance & Hines exhaust system was stolen a few months ago.
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And then think of all the dirt and bird poop you get on the roof of your car. Image what it would be like if all of this got on the *inside* of your car.
Don't park under trees. Anyway, that's why they have tonneau covers.

In any case, you may as well ask why people ride motorcycles.

Certainly there are issues that must be dealt with by people who drive convertibles (or motorcycles). But life doesn't last very long, so you have to have as much fun as possible. You could drive 55 mph all the time in a car that's built like a tank, but where's the fun in that? You could sit in your house all the time instead of flying or scuba diving or kayaking or hiking or bicycling or doing other fun things, and you'll probably be safer; but most people don't. Convertibles are fun. It's nice to not be fully enclosed in a cage. Many of them (like the MGBs and the Miatas) handle very well. What's the point of living if you don't have fun and have your hair blown around once in a while?
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Old 06-30-2003, 07:42 PM
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Because they're fun. Most of my cars have been convertables, at least all the ones I really liked.

By the way, not to drag another thread into this one, but I think it's interesting that you note that they are slightly less safe. You've argued elsewhere that when an increment is small enough, one needn't worry about the results.

Same logic goes for handling, gas milage, and increased exposure to theft. Each of these increases of risk or cost or performance are slight at best.
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Old 06-30-2003, 07:50 PM
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It's been said in different ways here already, but basically driving a convertible is not something you logically come up with reasons to do. It's just something you do.
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Old 06-30-2003, 08:06 PM
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The factor, for sure.

I owned a 1965 Triumph Herald convertible and loved every minute that I spent driving it.

The fact that I spent nearly as much time sitting idly at the roadside waiting for roadside assistance was of course due to the engine being held together with elastic bands or something.

I think in a lot of cases, it also invokes a certain nostalgia for the 'good old days' of motoring when most cars were open top.
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Old 07-01-2003, 12:46 AM
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There are two types of people in this world. Those that love convertibles and those that just don't get it.
Anybody want to guess which group Surreal belongs to?

Some modern convertibles have as good if not better safety records than sedans. I have, at work, a set of pictures of a convertible that launched into air at about 125 MPH. Did 5 endos. Needless to say this car was destroyed. The driver recieved a cut on his cheek, took 10 stiches to close. There are not too many sedans where the driver would have fared as well.
::: shrugs::: Give me a rag top
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Old 07-01-2003, 01:29 AM
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Martha's Vineyard in the summer. Warm evenings at dusk. 1969 Cutlass Supreme Convertible top down. Grateful Dead, Boston (the band), New Riders of the Purple Sage ready for the 8 track. Cruising down the beach roads, music blasting, nothing between us and the ocean air and the blazing colors of the sunset. Then the stars come out and they're right there above us, parked on the shore, with no other lights, listening to the sounds of the waves. Open air, flying free.

Even if I never put the top down for the rest of the time I had that car, those moments were absolutely worth having it. They carried me through the winters in New England and I still have them 25 years later.

Hair can be brushed and dirt can be cleaned. You're not going to get that feeling in a hard top. And if you can't understand that, as someone else said, you probably never will.
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Old 07-01-2003, 02:20 AM
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Re: Why Do People Drive Convertibles?

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What exactly is the appeal of the convertible automobile?...
So why would anybody want to own such a vehicle?
Because it feels so damned good!

Mine has a hard top that is removed and stored in the trunk. It's easy to take off and put back on.

Friends who come in from out of town really enjoy the cruise with the top off -- day or night.


Now ask me why it's also LOWERED!
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Old 07-01-2003, 07:49 AM
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Bad memory of driving a convertible:

People on the street or in the car beside me talking to me when I stopped at a light. Sometimes these people were attractive and I welcomed the interruption. Many times, however, strange people asked questions like, "How much did that cost?", "How's the weather in there?", or "What do you do when it rains?"

Good memory of driving a convertible:

Getting a blowjob while driving 80 mph on the highway with the top down on a beautiful night. Ill-advised, yes, but not to be missed.

I always laughed at the people driving convertibles with the top down and windows up. If you want to look stupid, spend $10K on a Hyundai and leave the $50K Benz ragtop for someone who knows how to have fun.
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Old 07-01-2003, 10:37 AM
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BTW, the other night I was waiting in the drive-thru lane at McDonald's in the red Mitsubishi Eclipse convertible, and two teenage hotties who had been sitting behind me in a truck with their boyfriends hopped out, ran over to the car and asked if they could sit in it. They hopped in, and we chatted for a while.

So, another reason: Convertibles are total chick magnets.
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Old 07-01-2003, 12:07 PM
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Surreal, there is this thing called "fun" that is worth checking into.
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Old 07-01-2003, 12:18 PM
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Well nobody has explained *why* it's fun to drive a convertible.
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Old 07-01-2003, 12:29 PM
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Well nobody has explained *why* it's fun to drive a convertible.
They are fun to drive because, generally, they are small, fast, nimble, and sporty. There are also the big, fast, lumbering, cruise boats like Cadillacs, which I've never driven but have their own charm.

One time I stopped at a red light in my Celica convertible and a big old Fleetwood convertible pulled up beside me. The guy said, "I could put your car in my trunk." He wasn't lying.
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Old 07-01-2003, 12:57 PM
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If the weather's nice and the scenery's good, there's no better way to travel. It's like taking the blinders off a horse.

Mine's got bot the ragtop and the removable hardtop so it's really like having three cars. When conditions vary, so can you.

It's a good way to tan on a longer trip and I've even brought home an oak tree in back that nothing else short of a pick-up could have accomodated.
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Old 07-01-2003, 01:22 PM
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Why it is fun.
Driving with the top down is just more intense than with a hard top car. You get better all round view, you hear other vehicles, smell the trees, and feel the wind through your hair.
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Old 07-01-2003, 01:40 PM
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Re: Why Do People Drive Convertibles?

Well, here's another vote for... "You get it automatically, or you just never will."

I have never owned a car that was not a convertible. I'm 33. I'll hit your points real quickly...

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For starters, they have a higher initial cost than an equivalent hardtop.
But as a friend of mine said the first time he ever rode in mine... "This is SO much cheaper than therapy!"

I simply do not think that they are all that expensive. Many of my friends drive various sizes of SUVs to and from work, and each and every one of those vehicles cost more than my convertible (which is a pretty upscale model)

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They're also less safe than a hardtop, particularly in a rollover or if you slam into an SUV that rides higher off of the ground.
Not so sure about that. I have rollbars, which surely provide at least close to the same amount of protection as a roof, but I guess I could be deluding myself here.

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They are much noisier, even with the top up. And your hair gets all messed up if you drive with the top down. Structurally, their frames are not as rigid, so they don't handle as well as hardtops unless the underside is heavily reinforced. The have more aerodynamic drag, so they're slower and get worse gas mileage than a hardtop.
They are noisy, but I don't hear particularly well, so it never bothered me so much. I have very short hair, so that's not a factor. And mine handles quite well, from a performance, speed, and gas milage perspective.

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And then there's the issue of theft. You might as well just leave the door wide open because anyone with a pocket knife can get inside in just a few seconds.
And this is different from every other car on the road how? SUVs seem to top the "most stolen" list every year, and I rarely see convertibles on the list. I dunno, I figure if someone decides they want my car, they are going to get it, whether or not it has a cloth top.

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And then think of all the dirt and bird poop you get on the roof of your car. Image what it would be like if all of this got on the *inside* of your car.
Believe it or not... this has never been a factor. Seriously. Once, in 17 years, a bird crapped directly on my head, but I have always operated under the assumption that I had done something to deserve it, and God was going to get me no matter where I was.

I don't expect to convince you, or anyone else. Actually, I am not trying. It's just something I enjoy. Driving down the road at sunset, radio blaring some song that I really enjoy, wind in my hair... it's a great feeling. Can make a lot of life's troubles go away, at least for me, and at least for a little while.

And, the offer is on the table... any Dopers in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area that would like to see what it's all about, drop me an e-mail We'll work something out.
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Old 07-01-2003, 01:49 PM
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Well nobody has explained *why* it's fun to drive a convertible.
7AM leaving Carmel headed south along Hiway one. Top down, bundled up against the morning chill. This early the motorhomes are not yet awake, and you have the road to yourself.
As you enter the twisty part of the road, remaining tendrils of fog, still cling to the low points in the road.
Brake, downshift, feel the fog on your face as you accelerate through the corner. Smell the dew on the redwoods. Hear the creek that runs down the cliff and under the road. Head back up the hill, fell the sun on your face as you break back into the open. Upshift and listen to the exhaust rumble.
Repeat for the next 40 miles.

Your face at the end of the drive (on a scale of 10)
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Old 07-01-2003, 01:49 PM
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Surreal, go try it. Pop yourself down to the nearest...um...Mazda or Mitsubishi or Audi dealership and take a test drive. Don't just take one around the block, either. Take it out for a good quarter-hour. If possible, avoid having the salesperson go with you.

Report back, and tll me if you understand. I never thought I would like convertibles, either. "What's the big deal," thought I. But then we got one for my girlfriend. And now I don't know how we lived without one.
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Old 07-01-2003, 04:14 PM
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I also used to be in the "they look nice, but I don't see the total appeal" camp. Note--I also live in the Midwest, which would render riding with the top down an extremely chilly, if not impossible, option during large portions of the year.

Then my dad's sister-in-law got a black Spyder, and let him take it for a spin. I got to ride shotgun. After just a few minutes of cruising on some country back roads with the top down and the sun shining, I looked to my dad and said "I can totally see why people driving convertibles have a smug look on their faces." Because they know they're having so much more fun than the average driver in a hard-top.
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Old 07-01-2003, 07:22 PM
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2 of my first 3 cars I ever owned were convertible and some day I will own another. Car #1 was a beautiful 62 Pontiac Catalina. It had an electrical problem and I was able to buy it for $35. This was in 1972 when it was just another 10 year old car. One just like it recently sold at an auction for $55,000. My third car was a 1963 Mercury Comet S-22 convertible. 170 cubic inch 6 with a 4 speed transmission. The oil pump went out in it and I was about 50 miles from home. I added 3 quarts of oil and I made it to about 5 miles from home before the engine seized up. Last year I almost traded my 66 GTO for a 68 Mustang convertible. I changed my mind at the last minute.
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Old 07-01-2003, 07:56 PM
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I also live in the Midwest, which would render riding with the top down an extremely chilly, if not impossible, option during large portions of the year.
I used to live in the desert. As I've already mentioned, my hood stowed in the trunk so it was easier to just leave it off. Mornings in the desert can be cold in the Spring, but afternoons are brilliant. So in the mornings I'd have the tonneau cover on, an N-2B hooded parka, and ski gloves. I'd put a blanket over my lap, and the heater would be on. You can work around the weather.
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Old 07-01-2003, 11:39 PM
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Re: Why Do People Drive Convertibles?

I don't have a convertible yet, but I took driver's ed in one (we only put the top up when it was raining) and I wish to get one in the future. My taste in cars is a bit...um...odd, so I'll do a point-by-point.

What exactly is the appeal of the convertible automobile?
Fun.

For starters, they have a higher initial cost than an equivalent hardtop.
Not an issue for me; the one I want is almost 40 years old (1965 Mercury). Size reference: about as long as a fullsize pickup (123-inch wheelbase).

They're also less safe than a hardtop, particularly in a rollover
I'll give you that one, although it'd be hard to roll that wide, low behemoth.

or if you slam into an SUV that rides higher off of the ground.
Again, not an issue for me --- it rides as high as most stock SUVs.

They are much noisier, even with the top up.
That's one of the main reasons I want it. There's just something about the roar of a big V8 and the wind rushing by...

And your hair gets all messed up if you drive with the top down.
My hair's too short to get really messed up by the wind (and if it does, simply running my fingers through it will suffice), and I usually put on a hat when I get out of the car.

Structurally, their frames are not as rigid, so they don't handle as well as hardtops unless the underside is heavily reinforced.
Back in then, they were still building the fullsize cars with a real frame underneath, so it's about as stiff as the pickup I currently drive. Would probably handle about the same, too (same type of suspension and tire size).

The have more aerodynamic drag, so they're slower and get worse gas mileage than a hardtop.
With the 390 cid V8, it'll go plenty fast, and the gas mileage is horrendous anyway (which is fine by me). Science corner: it's not a whole lot more drag, anyway: one would assume the cabin fills up with a static "bubble" of air, so the only drag is off the back of the windshield, just like a pickup bed (yes, boys and girls, those flowthrough mesh/net/removed tailgates actually hurt your mileage); and any additional drag from that as opposed to a fastback metal roof would be negligible in my case, considering that big parachute of a grille up front.

And then there's the issue of theft. You might as well just leave the door wide open because anyone with a pocket knife can get inside in just a few seconds.
As has already been said, it's no more difficult to knock a window out of a hardtop.

And then think of all the dirt and bird poop you get on the roof of your car. Image what it would be like if all of this got on the *inside* of your car.
Put the top up when parked, and get easily-wiped-with-a-damp-rag leather/vinyl seats for the occasional lucky hit while driving.

So why would anybody want to own such a vehicle?
Because I like the messed-up hair, and the noise, and the wind.

I second the suggestion to test-drive one.
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:33 AM
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Anyone who derives pleasure from sitting in an automobile is a loon. There, I said it.
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:45 AM
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Oh man, a subject near and dear to my heart.

For 5 years I owned a 1989 LeBaron convertible. The engine was a POS 4 Cylinder Turbo, the Check Engine light would constantly come on, it leaked when it rained, and I had to replace the top and glass rear window. Besides, I only was in California for two years with it before I moved to the Pacific Northwest, and was only able to drive with the top down maybe two months out of the year. When I moved back to El Lay, I sold it to a cow-orker who totalled it 7 months later. I almost cried as the wrecker towed it away.

I have regretted selling that POS ever since. Even though I love my Cadillac, there was nothing in the world better than a warm day in Bellingham, putting the top down and driving down Chuckanut Drive, or a drive from LA to Vegas, putting sunblock on and rolling down I-15 wide open and the audio system blaring.

Yes, the Sedan De Ville not only has sentimental value to me, but it is practical and comfortable. When Kathy and I went out to dinner with several Dope friends recently, we all piled in the Cadillac and drove to the restaurant. This would have never been even close to possible in the LeBaron.

But, as several have noted, the experience is not definable by words. You either love it or hate it. I look forward to being able to afford another convertible. I miss the POS LeBaron.
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:55 AM
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Eternal, no one is talking about sitting in the car. It's the feeling of being in the open air while driving, i.e. moving along in the open air that I think most people are referring to. Although I don't mean to speak for everyone else who's posted here, I'm just summarizing what I've read.
You on the other hand seem to be comfortable making such sweeping judgements. Because you don't derive pleasure from it, then anyone who does is a loon? What do you derive pleasure from? If I don't happen to agree that it's pleasurable, can I call you a loon?
I could, but I wouldn't. I might say I don't understand why you find pleasure in something or that I don't agree with you, but it's your opinion and you have a right to it. People find pleasure in different things. As the old saying goes "I'll defend to the death your right to be wrong."
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Old 07-02-2003, 01:24 AM
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...I could, but I wouldn't. I might say I don't understand why you find pleasure in something or that I don't agree with you, but it's your opinion and you have a right to it. People find pleasure in different things. As the old saying goes "I'll defend to the death your right to be wrong."
No you wouldn't. Don't say it if you don't mean it.
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:10 AM
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Umm, no I wouldn't what? I wasn't saying anything I don't mean.
That is exactly how I respond to people. I have no problem with the apparent fact that you don't enjoy sitting/riding in a car. I will gladly tell you why I do and maybe I can explain the way I feel and it might make you see a point you hadn't considered. But in the end, it's my opinion, my preference which I'm entitled to and you are equally entitled to yours. I'm not a loon for preferring something, any more than you are a loon for not preferring the same thing. And I wouldn't say you are a loon for not liking a convertible. I would say I do and this is why and if that doesn't do it for you, then I guess you don't understand /see/agree with my perspective. Just like I did above. Does that clarify things? And I don't mean that to sound snarky. I'm really trying to clear up any misunderstanding.
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:29 AM
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You wouldn't die to defend my right to be wrong. People say that a lot but they're all lying. FACT.
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:35 AM
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You wouldn't die to defend my right to be wrong. People say that a lot but they're all lying. FACT.
Cite?
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Old 07-02-2003, 03:01 AM
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Um, Eternal, you know I was going to put a little smilie there cause it was a joke. A little play on the "I'm right, you're wrong" thing. But I thought it was obvious. Guess I was wrong. And you're right. Will you defend my right to be wrong? I won't actually ask you lay your life down for it, though, ok? Maybe we could just take a ride in a convertible and have some ice cream. I'll bring the hair elastics, you can choose the flavor.
And I'm going to stop hijacking this thread now, my apologies to the OP.
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Old 07-02-2003, 07:51 AM
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there was nothing in the world better than a warm day in Bellingham, putting the top down and driving down Chuckanut Drive
You're killin' me, Rico.
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Old 07-02-2003, 09:00 AM
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Oak Creek Canyon from Flagstaff to Sedona in Arizona is one of those roads purpose made for convertables.
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Old 07-02-2003, 09:12 AM
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Re: Re: Why Do People Drive Convertibles?

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And this is different from every other car on the road how? SUVs seem to top the "most stolen" list every year, and I rarely see convertibles on the list. I dunno, I figure if someone decides they want my car, they are going to get it, whether or not it has a cloth top.

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They do? I always though Accords, Saturns and Camrys held that distinction.
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Old 07-02-2003, 10:30 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Why Do People Drive Convertibles?

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They do? I always though Accords, Saturns and Camrys held that distinction.
All of which, I notice, have metal tops.
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