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Old 03-09-2004, 05:53 PM
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So how did homosexuality become socially acceptable?

When other deviant sexual acts are still kept at arms length of society?

Because:

A: We found gay culture amusing, hence shows like queer eye for the straight guy?
B: They lobied hard for many many years?
C: Its harmless, well as harmless as hetrosex is.
D: Joe public lacks the imagination to depict men sticking penises in other mens arses so the repulsion factor is missing or easily laughed off?

Which brings me to another question, how is it in most countries buggery is illegal yet homosexuality is not? Isnt that contradicktory?

While im at it, is it fair to class homsexuality as a mental disorder?
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Old 03-09-2004, 06:07 PM
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What are these "other deviant sexual acts" you speak of?
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Old 03-09-2004, 06:14 PM
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While im at it, is it fair to class homsexuality as a mental disorder?
Homosexuality was at one point classified as a mental disorder. In 1973, the American Psychiatric ceased classifying it as such, and to my knowledge the idea that homosexuality is a "disorder" has been pretty much universally discredited.
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Old 03-09-2004, 06:16 PM
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When other deviant sexual acts are still kept at arms length of society?

Because:

A: We found gay culture amusing, hence shows like queer eye for the straight guy?
B: They lobied hard for many many years?
C: Its harmless, well as harmless as hetrosex is.
D: Joe public lacks the imagination to depict men sticking penises in other mens arses so the repulsion factor is missing or easily laughed off?
Homosexuality has been around as long as humans have, and it's been more accepted in some cultures and less accepted in other cultures. Cultures change over time, and hopefully ours is moving towards greater acceptence.

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Which brings me to another question, how is it in most countries buggery is illegal yet homosexuality is not? Isnt that contradicktory?
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While im at it, is it fair to class homsexuality as a mental disorder?
No.
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Old 03-09-2004, 06:18 PM
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There is no factual answer to this (nasty sounding) question.
Do you want my opinion?
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Old 03-09-2004, 06:18 PM
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It's probably the number of people who practice it; I'd venture to say there are a lot more homosexuals than, say, people who have sex with their siblings.

Also, if you contrast homosexuality with other "deviant" practices, it's relatively hard to claim that someone is being harmed. For example, there's no consent issue, since we're talking about competent adults having sex. This makes it more acceptable to a lot of people.

I won't venture to say whether homosexuality is a mental defect; that isn't a factual question, anyway
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Old 03-09-2004, 06:22 PM
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Ummm, could we either have this thread closed or moved to the Pit? It's certainly not phrased as a Great Debate . . .
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:05 PM
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It's probably the number of people who practice it
I for one don't have to practice homosexuality. I'm very good at it.

Second the request to move this trash to the Pit or close it. And a round of metaphorically washing the OP's mouth out with soap while we're at it.
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:09 PM
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Ummm, could we either have this thread closed or moved to the Pit? It's certainly not phrased as a Great Debate . . .
Not even that, Eve, it's in GQ.
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:26 PM
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Which brings me to another question, how is it in most countries buggery is illegal yet homosexuality is not?
In what country is "buggery" (sodomy) illegal but homosexuality is legal?

And what is your definition of buggery/sodomy?

1 : copulation with a member of the same sex or with an animal
2 : noncoital and especially anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:29 PM
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Everyone's chided you properly. But I counter your question with another? Why do you think homosexuality is socially acceptable in the United States? I think that the gay marriage debate that's appearing everywhere lately is absolute, convincing proof (in the G.Q. sense) that homosexuality is indeed not socially acceptable in the United States, other than in certain communities that (suprise, suprise!) are comprised of a high number of homosexuals.

There's a huge degree of difference between "acceptance" and "tolerance."
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:48 PM
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What are these "other deviant sexual acts" you speak of?

Sorry

B&D
eastiality
Necrophilia
weird ones like shitting on peoples faces
etc
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:49 PM
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In what country is "buggery" (sodomy) illegal but homosexuality is legal?

And what is your definition of buggery/sodomy?

1 : copulation with a member of the same sex or with an animal
2 : noncoital and especially anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex
New Zealand for one, 4 states in australia for another

Buggery = anal sex.
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:53 PM
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Why transfer this to the pit? Theres no great emotions involved here.

In case you confised by by grammer ill spell it out in a different way.

Why is homosexuality in all forms on 7 oclock television and discussed openly by all media means when farmers humping sheep for example isnt?

Unless of course you feel that men licking sweaty balls is somehow, normal sexual behaviour? Thats why i label homosexuality as deviant. Rather like my male dog trying to hump my best mates leg the other day.

By all means educate me here.
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:59 PM
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You forgot to mention eating gefilte fish. That's some nasty shit.

Oh yes... to the pit please.
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Old 03-09-2004, 07:59 PM
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I case your wondering, im no gay basher or any other basher.

I recognise im lucky to be a properly "programmed" hetro-sexual male with a love of all things female.
I also recognise my sexual desires are not the choice of my concious. Its what im designed to do.
Pro-create. (though humans have largely grown stronger than our instincts, free thinking)

The best time IMHO to think on sex is straight after sex. When your desires are sated leaving me wondering free of emotion, where is choice involved at all?

The way i see it, sometimes our wiring gets crossed, men in females bodies and vice versa etc etc
No one ever claimed the human DNA pool was perfect...

My thoughts anyway.

All honest questions wether you believe me or not...
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:03 PM
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If homosexuality isnt socially acceptable in the states why is there the show queer eye for the straight guy playing when my children can watch it?

"Daddy whats a queer eye?"

I dont see, Sheep shagger for the dominatrix on TV do you?
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:03 PM
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Can you offer a citation that the sodomy laws in the places you stated apply only to heterosexuals? Could you give a hyperlink to the actual text of the sodomy laws?
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:05 PM
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[QUOTE=Belrick]Sorry

[snip]eastiality[/snip]

So that's like having sex facing the rising sun?
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:06 PM
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New Zealand for one, 4 states in australia for another

Buggery = anal sex.
Anal sex is illegal in four Australian states? That's news to this Australian. Name the four states and their alleged anti-sodomy laws, please.

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Joe public lacks the imagination to depict men sticking penises in other mens arses so the repulsion factor is missing or easily laughed off?
Well you and many others seem to spend quite some time thinking about it, so no.

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Which brings me to another question, how is it in most countries buggery is illegal yet homosexuality is not? Isnt that contradicktory?
Heh, heh--he said "dick".
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:06 PM
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So how did homosexuality become socially acceptable when other deviant sexual acts are still kept at arms length of society?

Because:

A: We found gay culture amusing, hence shows like queer eye for the straight guy?
B: They lobied hard for many many years?
C: Its harmless, well as harmless as hetrosex is.
D: Joe public lacks the imagination to depict men sticking penises in other mens arses so the repulsion factor is missing or easily laughed off?
Asked and answered.

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Which brings me to another question, how is it in most countries buggery is illegal yet homosexuality is not? Isnt that contradicktory?
"contradicktory"Ha-Ha! Hey! You made a joke! Good one! You're about what? 13 years old? To answer your question, it does seem a little contradicktory (Ha!) to me. Laws against butt-fucking seem very backwards! Ho! I couldn't resist!

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While im at it, is it fair to class homsexuality as a mental disorder?
Only by those people who believe that homosexuality in inherently wrong; like yourself apparently, given that you believe homosexuality to be deviant.

Good luck in this crazy world of ours. I hope all them fags don't turn you gay.
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:08 PM
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Bye-bye, grammer! Have a safe trip!
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:09 PM
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Somebody really needs to get laid. By anything female*. Or not.
*Reference to "All things female".
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:10 PM
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eastiality
So that's like what, people who will only have sex in the east? People who have to be facing eastward when they have sex?
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:12 PM
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Homosexuality has been around as long as humans have, and it's been more accepted in some cultures and less accepted in other cultures. Cultures change over time, and hopefully ours is moving towards .

Talking of ancient times, back then as soon as a girl went pubic they considered her by virtue her capability of bearing children to being sexually fair game.
These days consentual or not its called pedeophilia. (stuff mother nature eh?)

Does that make it non-deviant simply because pedeophilia has been around as long as mankind?

I hate to generalise but i cant help but feeling your all victims of modern socialism and peer pressure and as soon as a subject thats not about, white middle aged, middle income hetrosexual males you all come out with propaganda that would make goebels proud.

Why cant you think for yourself LOGICALLY without resorting to emotions and peer pressure?
"its right cause society says it is"
"Thats racist views cause my neighbours says it is"
"Thats bigot talk, tv said so"
"never critize israelis actions otherwise well call you anti-semite"


Oh he said the word, homosexual. He must be a redneck gay basher.
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:13 PM
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So that's like what, people who will only have sex in the east? People who have to be facing eastward when they have sex?
Can you point me in the direction of the edit button? Oh thats right you cant edit posts here...
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Old 03-09-2004, 08:28 PM
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General Questions is for questions with factual answers. I don't see a factual question here. There isn't a decent debate, so I can't move it to Great Debates.

If you want flame about homosexuality start a thread in the Pit. If you want to debate why homosexuality is acceptable, open a thread in Great Debates after rethinking your opening post. (Ha, good luck there.)

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