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03-30-2004, 08:52 PM
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American Idol 3/30
John, John, John. I love you, but that was terrible. *sigh*
You know, I started a list of who I liked, but with the exception of John, who royally screwed up, they were all pretty good tonight. Even Camille gave a better performance than she has in the past. My prediction for the bottom 3: Camille, John, and Diana. I hope John gets to come back to redeem himself. Motown just isn't his thing.
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03-30-2004, 08:58 PM
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Oh my! Ashford/Simpson as guest judges!? YAY!
1. Camille--It's obvious that she's putting forth her best effort hrre, but is still very WEAK. Good performance, but she's the one who's out of her depth, not Jennifer. I'm with Simon and Randy. If she's not gone this week, she'll be gone next week. 2. Jon Peter--Oh dear...just meh. His fanbase will save him though. Let's face it, Simon is right. 3. Latoya--HEEE! She looked just like Trenyce. Despite the overuse of melisma, she was just fabulous! Excellent! 4. Amy--Overall, very good and a lot of fun, but DID miss notes and the long note was not good at all. The ending hurt, but still sounded decent. 5. John Stevens--Errrr...good song choice, but weak performance. It's like he diluted the song with water or something. I wish people`would just let Simon finish what he's saying! Geez! 6. Jennifer Hudson--Great song choice! A little heavy on the vibrato, but so far the best. Hell, she did better than K. Lo! 7. Jasmine--Meh. Song choice did her in. But, meh. No way she's the best tonight. Not a bottom three, but nowhere near as good as Latoya or Jennifer. 8. Diana--Well sung, but something's missing. She's certainly among the best, I can't be compelled to vote for her. 9. Fantasia--I didn't care for the ending too much, but overall fantastic. Most certainly among the best and I WOULD vote for her if she were as vulnerable as Jennifer. 10. George--HEEE!! It's obvious that this was HIS NIGHT! Excellent! Bottom Three: Camille Jon John Stevens
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03-30-2004, 08:59 PM
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First half of the show: sucky! (Camile doesn't belong on the stage; Penboy was all shakey; La Toya had a bad night and it wasn't just the hair; Amy was out of her league and John! Omigod! So horribly bad! Jennifer -- I really don't like this girl.)
Second half of the show: Pretty Darned Good! Jasmine did OK. Diana DeGarmo rocked the house, but I hated her earrings. Fantasia WAS Fantastic, but lose the sweater/shrug. And George was in his element! I'm predicting John goes home. . . if not Camile who should have been the first one to exit. I just really didn't expect such a sub-par show from a Motown theme. Too bad. And Ashford and Simpson are scarey!
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03-30-2004, 09:06 PM
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What did somebody yell from the back when Simon was talking to John Stevens?
If John Stevens gets the boot it is cruel irony, because next week's theme is "big band."
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03-30-2004, 09:07 PM
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Call them sympathy votes or whatever, but I called in a votes for John. I like his voice. Even though he sucked tonight, I think he needs to outlast Camille and I'm hoping she goes home tomorrow. That girl is absolutely terrified to be on stage and I don't think a few more weeks on the show is going to help her overcome that.
I thought Amy was doing alright until the last part. I actually cringed when she did that last line. Jennifer's got a powerful voice, but she makes scary faces when she sings. Jasmine - meh. I don't get what all the fuss is about her and I wish she'd get rid of that damn flower. It was nice to see Matt in the audience. He didn't deserve to go last week, but he looked like he was enjoying the show.
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03-30-2004, 09:08 PM
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I kept track of the audience reactions in case anyone is interested:
Camille - Standing ovation. Jon Peter - Standing ovation. Latoya - Standing ovation. Amy - Standing ovation. John - Standing ovation. Jennifer - Standing ovation. Jasmine - Standing ovation. Diana - Standing ovation. Fantasia - Standing ovation. George - Standing ovation.
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03-30-2004, 09:16 PM
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Camille - she won't win, that's abundantly clear, she may be the weakest contestant (mostly due to nerves) in the competition...but she's so beautiful! She put forth a lot of effort and wasn't the worst tonight. I'd be perfectly happy to watch her go to the final two despite her lack of talent.
JPL - yikes Latoya - I hated the song that she sang but she sang it well. Good job as usual. Amy - think she did a fine job actually and for some odd reason, I actually liked the note at the end. I know it wasn't right but for some reason I liked it. And Jay Leno?? Harsh. John Stevens - yikes Jennifer Hudson - thought she over did it a little but she has a fine voice. It was decent. Jasmine - plenty of energy which is good but the thing is, she just doesn't have the pipes to win. If I remember correctly, a bunch of the notes weren't as good quality as they could have been - but they weren't off exactly. Diana - this is the only song I really liked, thought Latoya or Jennifer could have sung it better but she did an admirable job. Fantasia - said this last week, I'll say it this week - I don't enjoy her voice at all so I can't objectively comment. It's safe to say I didn't like it though. George - he did very well this week. Overall, I'd put him in my top five but I'm not so sure he should win. Bottom Three (loser bolded) - not necessarily representative of my feelings. JPL Camille  John
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03-30-2004, 09:25 PM
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Unfortunately tonight was the first night I was able to watch the whole episode without the phone ringing off the hook! I have missed all or part of various people's previous performances, so that makes it hard for an overall grade.
Camille -- I think she's cute as a button but she can't sing. John Peter -- I think this is his best performance yet (of what I've seen). But that isn't saying much. He IS kind of cute, in a dorky way. LaToya -- Wow! I keep missing most of her performances, and tonight was actually the first time I saw her all the way through. She's really awesome! Amy -- I thought she was pretty ugh, though this was a much better performance than on Soul Night (I missed her on Country night). John -- I love John Stevens. He's one person I actually remember from the first auditions and I loved him then. But this was a poor night for him. Can't wait to see what he'll do on Big Band Night. Jennifer -- Decent voice I guess, but for some reason she annoys me. Jasmine -- I think her performances are going downhill. I thought she was okay at first, but each time I'm less and less sure. Diana -- Honestly I feel like she had such a poor song choice that I was having trouble liking her tonight. Good voice though. Fantasia -- She just annoys me. I can't really get into her singing. George -- Yummy! I've liked him from the beginning. He's awesome. My top three for the night were George, LaToya, and maybe Diana. Top three overall are George, LaToya, and John Stevens (I don't think he's an American Idol, but I just love him!). I hope JPL stays in for awhile because he's funny to watch. Camille needs to go now. After that Amy, Jennifer, and Fantasia in any order.
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03-30-2004, 09:27 PM
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03-30-2004, 10:02 PM
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Camille: Sucked. She's stunk up the stage for three weeks in a row now. She just doesn't belong in this competition...and enough with hang loose sign already.
JPL: Dude just doesn't have the pipes, man. LaToya: It was just a'ight for me, man. I think she's been better. She didn't suck but it was nothing special either. Amy: I thought she got drowned out by the band and her constant mugging really annoys me. She's not one of the real contenders but she'll probably hang around until the top five. John: The cat was off key, man. I like the dude all right, but you gotta sing in key, dawg. Jennifer: Good. Solid. Still waiting for great from her, though. Jasmine: She was good. I wanted her to suck but she didn't. One of the top three or four performances tonight. Jon-Benet: I just don't like her. She's a phony pageant brat. She's a technically competent singer but she has no real personality and she said "c'mon" again. I hate when they say "c'mon." Fantasia: Really good, typical Fantasia. She really overdid the "yeah, yeah, yeahs" at the end but she was in the top three tonight. George: He seems to be getting a little better every week and Motown is right in his sweet spot. One of the best performances tonight. Bottom three: Camille JPL John S. Based solely on tonight's performance, John S. would have to go but cumulatively it should be Camille and I predict that it will be Camille who gets voted off the island.
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03-30-2004, 10:12 PM
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My take on it:
Camille - She seemed slightly less scared but please let this be her last week. She does not belong there. But I'm afraid she'll just keep getting the sympathy votes. Jon Peter - Ew, ick. What was that? He looked frightened of the band. He was squat dancing.... it was just ew. I couldn't believe he got a standing O (or Camille) then I saw everyone got one. LaToya - She got a weave. I think it changed her whole look, not sure how I feel about it. I have to wonder if she didn't do that so she didn't look like Fantasia. She was good but not her best. The band and back-up singers seemed to drown her out at times but that seemed to happen for a lot of the singers tonight. Amy - Good, better than her first couple performances, but not good enough. She should be safe though but she's not right for this contest. John - That was a little different but he didn't pull it off, his voice was too weak. He was drowned out a lot by the band. Jennifer - Great. I didn't see as much of the bulgey eyes scary face tonight. Jasmine - Good but a little weak at the start. Diana - Great. I don't get what Simon's problem with her is. Maybe she's just not unique enough in her appearance for his tastes? Fantasia - Ok, I just don't like her voice. I think she does have talent but I don't even want her in the top two because I don't want to have to hear her voice all the time, even if she comes in a close second. George - He's good but was a little weak in spots. I don't feel like he is consistent enough to be a professional at this point. Bottom 3: Camille Jon Peter John S I think Camille should go, but it will probably be John unfortunately. I think since he lost his support with the judges the rest of the country will write him off. For the record. I am not voting this season. I always end up disappointed and I can't outdial the crazy people who vote on sympathy or looks and not voice talent.
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03-30-2004, 10:57 PM
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Camille might sing well dipped in cement, perhaps if she couldn't do all the carefullly choreographed hand/arm/feet/dancey moves she'd be able to give up all the techniquey crud and just sing. I'm not so much getting the nervousness vibe the judges keep offering as an excuse, I see her performances as someone with plenty of experience and talent who's determined to keep doing what's worked well for her in the past and just coast on her looks waiting for everyone to catch up to her wonderfulness.
I might cry if John's booted and Camille is kept, regardless of how poorly he did tonight. At least we can see a definate difference in him, he's actually trying to grow and branch out a bit, not quite successfully but danggit, I just enjoy him. Manic was a dead-on desription of Jennifer, go Simon! LaToya, George and Diana were good tonight, I agree with everyone else about John, Jon and Camille being the worse. All of them need to stop borrowing from the George Huff school of squat, and I cannot believe they ragged LaToya on her hair but left Fantasia's outfit alone. Too scared of riling Ghettogirl's wrath after last week?
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03-30-2004, 11:04 PM
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You know, you just never know. I thought it was much worse this week than last; who'd have thought country week would beat Motown week? Ah well. A review by contestant:
1. CAMILLE VELSACO - Dreadful, third week in a row; Camille now probably has the dubious distinction of being the worst finals contestant in the history of the show. No power, projection, or charisma. 2. JON "PENBOY" LEWIS - I like his charisma and his energy, but he's just an OK singer who did an OK job. Out of his league, but I hope he sticks around a few more weeks. 3. LATOYA LONDON - Very good performance, maybe not as good as either of the last two weeks. She is, by far, the most professional, polished performer in the history of the show. No contest, IMHO. The only bad thing about her is her first name; it's like having a family doctor named Mengele or a therapist named Dr. Lecter. It's like hiring a lawyer to represent you in a really nasty lawsuit and his name is Neville Chamberlain. 4. AMY ADAMS - Poor song choice. (Hint: When selecting a Motown standard, do not select one that was done as a horrible, 80s-ified homoerotic cover by David Bowie and Mick Jagger.) Fundamentally the same type of performance as last week, but not as good a song and not quite as good a delivery. I like her and she's middle of the pack but I think she has zero chance of winning. 5. JOHN STEVENS - Horrific, one of the worst performances in show history. He was flat for almost the ENTIRE SONG. He barely hit a note; it sounded like fingernails on a chalkboard. Could he not hear himself? Just horrific, and he's not developing any level of comfort or charisma. Way, way out of his league. He's a nice kid with a smooth, easy delivery, but is just too young. More than anyone else in show history he has survived almost entirely on being unique; he's a way sub-professional performer. 6. JENNIFER HUDSON - Pretty good, better than last week, and actually quite a bit better than Kimberley Locke's rendition of "Heat Wave" in AI2. I hate "Heat Wave" and cannot understand why anyone would do it - bad song choice. Jennifer can sing but she just doesn't have a lot of charisma that I can see. Her one persona on stage is Assertive Black Woman Uh Huh, which gets old fast. 7. JASMINE TRIAS - There's a ballplayer, Jose Cruz Jr., who plays for the Devil Rays, used to play for the Mariners, Blue Jays, and Giants. Jose Cruz Jr. is the weirdest ballplayer ever, because you never know how good or bad he's going to be. One month he'll absolutely rip the league apart, hit .400 with eight homers and make one astounding defensive play after another. Then the next month he plays baseball as if he's never played it before, hits like your grandmother and makes seven errors. One year he'll hit 30 homers but never walk and play terrible defense, and the next year he'll play great defense but lose all his power. He's Willie Mays on Monday and Willie the Groundskeeper on Tuesday. The sum result is mediocre, but he's never actually mediocre at any one time. Jasmine Trias is the Jose Cruz Jr. of American Idol. She was, I thought, FANTASTIC tonight. She was fantastic in Week 1. And in Week 2 she absolutely blew goats. Even in the runup competitions I always either loved her or hated her. She has the potential to win, but only if she can avoid the Bad Jasmine and get consistent. 8. DIANA DEGARMO - I agree with the posters who get a creepy, toddler-beauty-pageant vibe from her. Tonight's performance was competent and cute, but pure Mickey Mouse. I mean that literally; she looked, sounded and acted like a performer in a Mousketeers performance. All she needed was to sew a few poodles onto that pink skirt for the full Funicello. Mrs. RickJay's first words during her performance: "She's a Mousketeer." I half expected Goofy and Donald to run on stage behind her and bust a few moves. I think Simon has a tin ear a lot of the time, but he was dead right here; it was a purely high school level performance. 9. FANTASIA BARRINO - Mrs. RickJay loves her. I like her, but; she seems to be really forcing it at times, she miscalculated her stagework, and her command of the song was not as strong as it could be. She doesn't have the polish and finesse Latoya does, or the connection with the audience George has. She's better than most but not quite up to the level of those two. If Fantasia Barrino was white, she'd look just like Pink. Think about it. 10. GEORGE HUFF - Okay, during the talky portions, he looks like an excited spaniel trying really, really hard not to take a crap on the living room rug. But his voice is powerful, smooth and spot on, and he's getting very, very good at performing. I like him, and I think it's gonna be a horse race between him and Latoya to win all the marbles. So the new RickJay Rankings, and remember, these rankings are not just this week, but are a compilation of all performances to date, with this week's weighed, appropriately, a little more heavily. 1. Latoya London 2. George Huff 3. Fantasia Barrino 4. Jasmine Trias 5. Amy Adams 6. Jennifer Hudson 7. Diana DeGarmo 8. Jon Peter Lewis 9. John Stevens 10. Camille Velasco I would now separate them into three groups; Latoya, George, Fantasia and Jasmine are the only competitors with any chance of actually winning. Amy, Jennifer, Diana and Jon have their strengths but can't win. John S. and Camille are badly, badly out of their league now.
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03-30-2004, 11:17 PM
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Camille: Mr. Rilch (who didn't see last week's show) said, "They better fix the sound, and quick!" Me: "That's how she sounds."
Jon Peter: Every song is one run-on sentence to him. He does not know how to emote. Boot him already. LaToya: Good job, but perhaps I was more inclined to think so because she was the first one who didn't suck. Amy: So what about the last note? I see nothing wrong with putting her own spin on a song. And I have to give her huge props for laughing off Simon's "Jay Leno" remark. John: Oh, I felt so bad for him. I seriously thought he was holding back tears while Ryan was de-introducing him. But I want him to get another chance! To that end, I've been hitting redial for his number ever since the show went off; what upsets me is that I've been getting through almost every time. Jennifer: Not bad. She should hang in for a while. Jasmine: At first, I was ready to dismiss her as a lightweight, but she's been surprising me with her sensuality. Diana: I would have thought that was another undoable song, but she's got the powerful enough voice to pull it off! Agree with Simon, though, that she didn't have any moves, but if she's determined to win (and she could!) she'll do something about that. Fantasia: Excellent; a real vamp. George: He's really becoming a contender. If he doesn't go all the way, he still might be noteworthy as the one who improved the most throughout his run.
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03-30-2004, 11:17 PM
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God, tonight was the night of suck. I expected Camille to get booted off for sure this week, but after all that suck, anything could happen.
I think everyone took Simon's comments about making a connection with the audience literally, since everyone seemed to be yelling something at them. C'mon! C'mon! Shut up! Fantasia was pretty good, possibly the best tonight, but what the hell was that foam sweater she was wearing? George nailed it, he just keeps getting better and better. Is it true what I read the other day, that he only got back on because someone got bounced for a DUI? And the towel…wtf? Alas, Penboy. I get the feeling that he needs to be in a certain zone to perform really well. Trouble is he never seems to find that zone. He seemed to be getting into that song more as it went on, perhaps he would have nailed it had it not been so abbreviated like all the songs are. I hope John Stevens doesn't get booted before Big Band night…too ridiculous. Did anyone else think that Amy's song sounded a little bit country? Or am I imagining things? I see what Simon means about Diana. She's really good, but she screams high school talent show in everything she does.
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03-30-2004, 11:30 PM
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Oh, and also...
Valerie Simpson: Well, now I know what Sailor Moon's gonna look like at age 60!
Who was it who prompted Nick Ashford to say, "Well, since I wrote the song..." I'd plotz if I knew I was performing in front of the actual songwriter: there's so much more potential for them to say "You desecrated my song!"
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03-30-2004, 11:58 PM
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How do you know?
How do you guys know in advance what the evening's music theme will be?
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03-31-2004, 01:25 AM
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I don't know what's wrong with Camille. It's hard for me to give up on her because she was so good before the finals. Like others, I'm beginning to wonder if it really is nerves, but what the heck else could it be if she was able to sing so beautifully in the past?
John Stevens was awful tonight, but I saw it coming a mile away when they announced it was Motown night. He'll get through because his fan base is so devoted (just read the previous posts) and on big band night, he'll kick ass. Even Randy the hater will have to praise him. I wish Simon hadn't been cut off (what is this, the Oscars?). I wonder what was he going to say about Camille? I didn't hear what everyone else heard when Jennifer Hudson sang. I thought it was horrible and was stunned when Simon said she was good.
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03-31-2004, 01:26 AM
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I was addicted to AI last year. This year, I've ignored it until tonight -- so this episode was my first glimpse of these contestants. I don't remember all their names, or even all their performances; I'll just stick to the ones that stand out most in my mind.
Funniest line of the night was Paula calling Camille "Carmen." Still, while Camille wasn't great, she was no Goat Girl! She seemed very young and untried to me. I could barely hear her over the music. Jon has a fairly good voice, and he's cute (from what I could tell on my teensy portable B&W TV) ... but like Camille, he seemed weak and tentative. (Was it my craptastic TV or was the sound awful? It seemed as if the band was totally overpowering most of the singers.) I imagine he'll last, though, since he's the only cute white guy in the bunch. John Stevens. Uh, can someone tell me what the HELL this guy is doing in the top ten???? He was flat the entire song, he sang like a man overdosed on Lithium, and he had not an ounce of personality. I swear, he's so horrible I thought I was being whooshed when he started to sing. This guy's voice reminds me of when someone slowly lets the air out of a balloon. What, did he get in on the Clay Aiken Honorary Geek Scholarship or something? Except in addition to his offbeat charm, Clay has a set of pipes that would blow everyone of this group off the stage. This guy's worse than Military Man JOSH, and that's saying something. Okay, movin' on. LaToya started waaay flat but improved as things moved on. "Ooh Baby, Baby" is not an easy song to pull off in a competition atmosphere, since it's so laid back and slow. She's got the voice, emotion and power, and she probably has the looks too when she's not wearing a hairstyle straight out of Dr. Seuss. Single White Female, uh, Amy I think her name is? Meh. Big pile of steaming meh. More than anyone, she reminded me of the lackluster voice of Carmen -- although it was coupled with the downtown/funky appearance of Vanessa. Did I mention meh? Jasmine with the annoying flower behind her ear. Oy. She COULD have a good voice, if she got some weight to it and learned some technique. I understand she's pretty young though, right? Fantasia was definitely tied at #2 with Latoya, excepting her wardrobe. (Was that a sweater vest???) Strong pipes and unlike others here I thought she connected very well with the crowd. Finally ... George. George! Holy SHEEYIT! Loved him. LOVED HIM. His deep, husky voice was ab-so-lutely perfect for "Ain't too proud to beg," which practically requires the desperation of a man who's got a bit of roughness to his sound. Is he the oldest of the group this year? Dang, he sounds like a man in his thirties, not some just-out-of-college kid. I thought he was adorably surprised when hearing all the praise; he got such a kick out of it all! (But yeah, what was with the hanky? Who is he, Pavarotti?) Sort of OT, but I just realized that only three out of ten finalists are white ... and none is very likely to get to the top three (barring an outpouring of SF voters, LOL). Hee! Wonder what Fox thinks of this development, especially after last year's final three resulted in two chubby African Americans and a skinny geek. Now, many of us found all three attractive, but certainly Fox and the producers would have preferred a more conventionally photo-friendly bunch (read: sexy WASPs) at the top this year. Commenting on the judges: Randy is almost incomprehensible with his usual patter. Paula is even more uselessly positive than she was last year, and this is coming from someone who really likes her and owns two of her CDs. Simon was way outta line with the Jay Leno crack, but otherwise standard quo. As usual the guest judges were pretty pointless. And I still like Ryan, God only knows why. Good grief I think I'm hooked again. Just when I think I'm out ... !
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03-31-2004, 01:35 AM
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BTW, anyone remember Lionel Richie last year? When Carmen Rasmussen sang "You Can't Hurry Love," Richie mentioned that he'd covered the song years ago and praised her version. Simon told her she didn't pull it off, then turned to Richie and said "I didn't think you pulled it off either". The look on Richie's face was priceless. If they're going to stick with this guest judges crap, then I want more moments like that.
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03-31-2004, 06:36 AM
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03-31-2004, 07:33 AM
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Well, y'all seem to have covered the vocal entertainment...so just allow me to bash Fantasia's outfit here. I had more of a problem with the skirt. Memo to everyone: Short does not necessarily equal sexy! When the skirt is shorter than it is wide, it starts looking very awkward. Fantasia's skirt reminded me of a denim colored bandage on a finger knuckle at the end of a hard day. (It also reminded me of Colorforms. Colorforms, for you youngsters, were a toy popular in the seventies which involved sticking bits of colored plastic to a picture.) Then, from the waist up, she looked like a fat caterpillar larvae bulging out of a half-opened cocoon. (Remember that scene in Silence of the Lambs where the museum guy slits open the cocoon and the slimy Death's Head moth is exposed?)
Maybe Fantasia was trying to get that bandaged plastic larvae look?
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03-31-2004, 08:24 AM
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-- Anyway, I hope that isn't the case... Camille NEEDS to go! She's just painful to listen to. Just a pretty face. I don't care who else is in the bottom three, as long as Camille has to leave (Please make her go!).
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03-31-2004, 08:27 AM
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I'm afraid John's gonna go, because he really did suck this week, but I still love him. I figured this was going to be a bad week for him, poor kid. He's gotten a good bit of exposure out of this, though, and I strongly suspect he'll be just fine. I'd buy his record in a heartbeat.
As for George, since he grew up here, the Fox station is milking him for all it's worth. Not that I blame them, really. One of his relatives (I assume it was a relative) in a news ad displayed a t-shirt with what Simon said about (I think this is it) "you don't know how good you really are," on it. My mom admitted that if Simon had said something like that about me she'd probably have done the same thing. Needless to say, they're thrilled. And so is the paper; a week ago they did a big story on him. Based on overall performance I think Camille should go, but who knows. I'm hoping John has enough of a screaming hormonal pre-teen type fan base to keep him in it for another week or two at least.
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03-31-2004, 08:59 AM
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Poor John, especially with Granny and Grandpa there. I saw an episode of the Dean Martin show on DVD in which Dean attempted to sing "Rollin' on the River" and it was a similar disaster.
Did anybody else think that the singers were drowned out by the band? I know the Funk Brothers are legends and probably the greatest back-up band in the world, but somehow the acoustics were just biased against even the good performers. I'm convinced that the Simon v. Seacrest feud is real and not made-for-on-air-shtick- they really seem to loathe each other. That's one of those "who do you root for?" moments- the bitchy muscle-shirt loving Limey or the mirror-loving media ho prettyboy?
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03-31-2004, 09:11 AM
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I was just saying to hubby last night that ever since the first person of the 12 performed (I believe it was Diana) and did well enough to receive a standing ovation, EVERYONE now receives one, regardless of their suckitude. I wonder if it would be the same if Camille or Leah had been the first to perform. I don't remember it happening in the first two seasons.
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03-31-2004, 09:34 AM
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Okay, now my take on last night. Not in any particular order:
John Peter Lewis: Horrible. I don't get the appeal at all and last night, his dancing made him look like he forgot to go potty. Fantasia: Great voice, but I didn't like the ending. She was trying too hard. And, I don't care if she sounds like Macy Gray. Jennifer: I liked her when I was in the kitchen and couldn't see her, but when I went to the TV to watch her perform, her facial expressions and spastic movements ruined it for me. Camille: She not only looks frightened, but she looks like she's in pain. It's as if someone is behind her with a red-hot poker in her back, forcing her to sing and burning her at the same time. I especially enjoyed Paula's Freudian slip when she called her Carmen (Rasmussen, perhaps?). Hee! Diana: I didn't like her as much as I have the last two shows, but she did well. George: I love this guy. His voice is very sexy, but he's got a goofy look to him at the same time. Very unique package. Latoya: I think she'll win the whole thing. Great performer, great voice. Enough said. John Stevens: That poor, poor boy. He's too young to be in the competition. He needs to work on his voice more. I haven't cringed that much since the above-mentioned Carmen Rasmussen. Amy: I loved her voice in the auditions and last week was really good, but she was just a'ight last night. Jasmine: Much better than last week. MUCH! I'm sick of the flower. She's trying for a "205 jersey"-like trademark.
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03-31-2004, 09:35 AM
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Loved Fantasia, I like the Billie Holiday/Macy Gray tone. Plus she seems to have a real indiviual style. Some of the others look like their act is something the coaches over the week told them to do. With Fantasia it just looks more natural (even if it doesn't work sometimes).
George was also great, and he has such a "good" face (can't imagine him being anything but a nice guy).
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03-31-2004, 09:45 AM
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On another topic, there was a front page story in THE MILWAUKEE JOURNAL this morning about how Asian-Americans are banding together to support both Camile and Jasmine. They hold huge AI watching parties. They phone in votes for both these girls. And it's not just a local phenomenon. Apparently it's going on nationwide. Which explains a lot, especially about Camile. 
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03-31-2004, 11:03 AM
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YO YO YO!!!
First of all, Slacker, that was fucking hilarious. I've been following local coverage in the Honolulu Advertiser regarding Jasmine and Camile, and the Filipino community in Hawai'i is so behind these girls. I get the sense of pride in seeing them up there, but shouldn't it come to a point where you accept the suck that is Camile and stop throwing votes her way? I bet she's nice and all in real life, but on stage she's awkward and gawky and as I believe someone here said a week or so ago, sounds like she's singing into a fan. John Stevens is still a snoozefest. I think he knows he's totally out of his depth on AI, and it's going to come as no surprise to either him or us when he gets booted. I still despise Fantasia. Nothing will change that. Her speaking voice, her singing voice, her attitude all stink. She thinks she's hot shit and while the judges' feedback is heaping it on, I get a sense of "I'm better than all of you" from her. Compare that to George Huff, who continues to get up there and give great performances while maintaining a sense of humility and gratitude. He THANKS the judges when they give him feedback. But I did not really get the towel. I would have cut a bitch for a Matt Rogers-sweat-soaked hand towel. Camile deserves to go. Amy and John Stevens should be standing there beside her to hug her and say goodbye. Judith, out.
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03-31-2004, 11:11 AM
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The band, and those backup singers/recordings didn't help by drowning out the singers.
I also think that a Motown theme is tough in that these songs have become almost cliches. Everyone knows them and it's hard to "make them your own". As much as Fantasia bugs me, she did get a little creative with her delivery.
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03-31-2004, 11:47 AM
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I know y'all love redheaded John, but if I have to hear him sing one more time I'm going to beat my head against a wall. The kid has a certain charm, but he's no American Idol. When he sings I imagine all the people his grandparents age getting on their rotary dial and voting for him. haha. His family creeps me out and his singing is off key. Add to that zero personality and you have a recipe for loserdom.
Diana is too sugary sweet. If she won, she'd be the next Hilary Duff, with a fanclub of 10-year-olds. She can sing, but so what? Isn't Amy a hairstylist? If so, then what was going on with her last night? She looked like she just got out of the shower and let it dry. Ick. Flat and not attractive. And then there's the pink--I'm ok with that for an edgier kind of gal. But Amy is a Celine Dion wannabe. Her pinkness just looks wrong. Oh yeah, and I don't like her singing. My faves are Fantasia, George, and LaToya. To me, they are the obvious top three. Your opinions may vary. 
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03-31-2004, 12:13 PM
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In reading the Television Without Pity boards, I'm starting to get a little annoyed with the John Stevens and Jon Peter Lewis fans who keep "voting their fingers off" just because they "like" them, even while acknowledging that they completely SUCK vocally. I don't care if they're nice boys or sweet or cute, my ears just simply cannot stand any further assault. Please, I'm begging on bended knees, Make! It! STOP! Thank you. Though almost everyone completely stunk last night, my choice for bottom 3 would be: Jon Peter Lewis John Stevens Camille Velasco John Steven should be going home -- he's so out of his league, but his rabid fans will keep him off the seal and probably put Amy down there again (  ) Oh well, so long as it's not George.
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03-31-2004, 12:28 PM
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John will be cute when he grows up and would be a great singer for a niche market ala Josh Groban, but much as I enjoyed "King of the Road" (especially his brilliant save), I've no problem seeing him go after the Big Band show.
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03-31-2004, 01:27 PM
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Last Night
Camille -- Weak voice, pretty girl. John Stevens may have given her another week. Jon Peters -- Reminds me of a kid who has to take singing or perform in the school production, but is afraid he won't look cool to his friends. Latoya -- For most performers this would have been a great effort. But for her a little average. Amy -- Good, but a slight let down from last week. Her version of “Sin Wagon” is starting to become my favorite performance of the completion so far. John Stevens -- Last week I said he was a 16yo Steve Lawrence. My apologies to Steve Lawrence. No personality at all. Nothing. Reminds me of singers from another country who don't speak English, but learn the song phonetically, and don’t have a clue to the meaning of the lyrics. I don’t care if it’s big Band night next week. He must go. Jennifer. If I don't look at her, I really like her. Someone has got to help her get her stage presence together. Jasmine -- Better than last week. Should be around a while. Diana -- A lot of energy. No soul. But she has that great voice. Fantasia -- Good performance. I though she worked the stage too much. It seemed a little forced. George -- He’s really getting into a grove. Better each week. Top three last night -- George, Latoya, and Jennifer Bottom three last night -- Camille, Jon Peter, and John Stevens kevja's overall 1. Latoya 2. Amy 3. George 4. Jennifer 5. Jasmine 6. Diana 7. Fantasia 8. Jon Peter 9. Camille 10. John Stevens
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03-31-2004, 05:21 PM
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My predictions for the rest of the competition:
John, Camille and Jon Peter will be axed, in whatever order. (Pleasepleaseplease give John 'big band' week, then I'll shut up!) When they're out of the way, Amy and Jennifer, again in whatever order, will be next. Unless they improve a lot and someone else starts to burn out. I believe last year there was some doubt about Ruben, in the third-to-last week or so, on the grounds that he might have shot his wad. Could happen. Fantasia, LaToya, George and Diana will battle it out from there. Diana may win or come in second. What Simon doesn't seem to realize about her is that pageant veterans are tough. Jasmine, I can't be sure about. She seems to be teetering between improvement and decline: the next couple weeks will determine which way she'll go.
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03-31-2004, 05:26 PM
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I think LaToya has a fantastic voice and is easily the most professional of all the contestants. Not such a great song choice, though. She's beautiful and classy, and she can control her voice. Frankly, I'd put money on her to win this thing. If I was 19 Entertainment, she's who I'd want to win.
Camile - How is this girl even in the finals? No voice, no stage presence. I think she squinched up her face and danced awkwardly in order to cover up her continuing terror at being on the stage. Honestly, she's like a puppy about to piddle in fear. Just horrid. Jon Peter Lewis - way out of his league vocally, and he looks and dances like a Muppet. Don't underestimate the Mormon teen vote that inflicted Carmen "Goat-Throat" Rasmussen on us last season. John Stevens - I think he's a cutie, but his voice just isn't versatile enough to last much longer. This performance was awful. Jennifer Hudson - She wasn't unpleasant to listen to, but she is way over the top in her performance. I want to like her, though, because I think she's gorgeous. Amy Adams - little mini-Maude continues to look about 40 years old even though she's toned down the eye makeup. Her voice is average good, but I do have to say that she's trying really hard. She's too square through the middle to be wearing crop tops. Without the pink hair, she'd be indistinguisable from... Diana DeGarmo. I really dislike this pageant queen and her little squinty face. She's Tracy Flick from the movie, Election, I swear. Her voice is good, but her calculated high-school play/theme park performance bugged. (Simon nailed it in his criticism.) Jasmine Trias was so good that she distracted me from my desire to rip that flower out of her hair and make her eat it. She really owned the stage, and not in the obnoxious way that Fantasia did. I think Jasmine's problem will be consistency and keeping on pitch. Fantasia Barrino - I know a lot of people think Fantasia is a favorite to win, but I don't get it. I don't like her raspy Macy-Grey-lite voice, I don't like her Reach™ flip-top head, and I think her personal style is as low-rent as Kimberly Caldwell's was last season. She bugs the crap out of me. I thought her going around to the band members during her song was obnoxious and calculated. She actually turned her back on the audience and cameras at one point. My homeboy George Huff: I really really like George a lot. He needs to tone down the grinning and bouncing, but otherwise, he's very good. I'm glad he got the "anchor" position of last in the show.
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03-31-2004, 07:57 PM
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OMG GOD...WTF is with this bottom 3??? No John? No Camile? Gah!!
Yet again, more proof that the American public is a bunch of morons. Tone deaf morons, at that. Feh. Oh...and the bootee: SPOILER:
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#43
03-31-2004, 08:01 PM
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I suppose I should have actually said who the bottom three were:
Amy Adams Jennifer Hudson LaToya London LaToya was sent back to sit down, bottom two were Amy and Jennifer.
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03-31-2004, 08:07 PM
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Wow. That was just all wrong wrong wrong. When it got down to those last two that were going into the bottom three, my first thought was "Why did they pick someone so strong to make us guess between? There's no suspense here." But what a surprise!
Did anyone else thing John Stevens looked about to cry after he was declared safe? I think he knew how bad his night had been and really thought he'd be down there. I'm glad he didn't get booted though. I like him, in spite of last night. I think the problem with letting America vote is the fan base that people get. If I were to call in and vote, I'd probably call in more than one person. Once to do my fave and once to do who I thought was best. See how wrong that is? We should honestly be voting for the best, but nooooo... We vote for the cutest or something stupid like that. Was Amy in the bottom three every night? I can't remember. She just must not have the fan base. She's not bad, but she's not good either. I do think she has a cute personality though, in a way.
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#45
03-31-2004, 08:14 PM
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Wow, that's got to be the most bizarre bottom three in show history. LaToya? WTF?
Amy is really annoying and I'm glad she's gone but there were others who sucked worse. People must really be voting protectively and they're not voting based on performance. This is crazy. We could end up with Penboy or [shudder] Camille as the winner at this rate.
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#46
03-31-2004, 08:15 PM
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I wonder if the voting would work better if it were more like the Survivor method...vote for who you *don't* want to advance each week, until it gets down to the final two, then vote for the winner. That way, there would be no preventing people's fan base from keeping sub-par people in the competition.
Maybe even the way that Star Search manages their voting, which is a small window of time after each performance where you can only vote once. And the final score is a combo of the judges' scores and the public's. I don't know...there's got to be a better way.
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03-31-2004, 08:36 PM
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My guess is that people who liked LaToya didn't bother voting for her because they thought she was safe. I am sorry to see Amy go, though. I liked her personality and her voice. Maybe she can head over to Nashville Star....
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03-31-2004, 08:38 PM
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WTF????
As much as I like John Stevens, which is a lot, he was terrible. Dreadful. He needs to stick to his niche, and I will then adore him. It should have been him or Camille. I'm beginning to see why people say this thing is rigged. Tonight's lineup made no sense at all!
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03-31-2004, 08:48 PM
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Actually, that probably WAS the worst bottom three in show history.
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03-31-2004, 08:48 PM
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