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Old 04-26-2004, 05:30 PM
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Approx. number of British deaths by V-1 and V-2 rocket attacks?

A former city official (who, btw, is responsible for my board name in a round-about way) mentioned in passing in his online newsletter that "thousands" died in V-1 and V-2 attacks. This figure strikes me as a wild overstatement, but I don't have the facts at hand to disprove his claim.

Anybody know what the real numbers were?
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Old 04-26-2004, 05:37 PM
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V1, 5,475

V2, 2424

Per this site anyway.
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Old 04-26-2004, 05:41 PM
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It isn't clear whether these numbers are just for London, which received the bulk of the attacks, or for England as a whole.
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Old 04-26-2004, 06:10 PM
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My father had a narrow squeak with a V1. It went on to hit a cinema. I imagine there were many casualties.
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Old 04-26-2004, 06:48 PM
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At the height of the V-1 and V-2 attacks, the rockets were killing more people in England, than British soldiers were dying on the front lines. That's why the Third Army push across Europe got shut down, in order that resources could be diverted to the forces trying to reach the rocket bases near Antwerp.
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Old 04-26-2004, 07:55 PM
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meh...Hitler is STILL killing people with the VW
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Old 04-26-2004, 08:48 PM
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According to the research I did on my Kay Kendall bio (she was a teenager in London during WWII), by war's end, approx. 60,000 British civilians had been killed in air raids. On May 10, 1941, alone, 1,436 people were killed by German bombs. Don't know if they were V-1s or V-2s, though.
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Old 04-26-2004, 09:40 PM
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I had always thought that the effect of the V1/V2 rockets was more psychological than destructive because the citizens had no warning; whereas during air raids they could at least seek shelter in the Underground. I am surprised to hear that the casualty number is so high (I would have guessed 2,500).

(small hijack) How long did the V1/V2 attacks last for??
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Old 04-26-2004, 09:48 PM
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I had always thought that the effect of the V1/V2 rockets was more psychological than destructive because the citizens had no warning; whereas during air raids they could at least seek shelter in the Underground. I am surprised to hear that the casualty number is so high (I would have guessed 2,500).

(small hijack) How long did the V1/V2 attacks last for??
The V-2's gave no warning. The V-1's were nicknamed "buzz bombs" because of the sound of their engines. And even a "dud" V-2 which hit it's target could leave a pretty nasty hole in the ground. (Something like 70ft across, IIRC.)
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Old 04-26-2004, 10:17 PM
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On May 10, 1941, alone, 1,436 people were killed by German bombs. Don't know if they were V-1s or V-2s, though.
I'm pretty sure that in 1941, nobody was killed by a V-1 or a V-2. This page says that the first V-1 attack against England came on June 13, 1944 and that the first V-2 attack to hit England came almost three months later on September 8, 1944.

And to answer Spezza's question, this page says that the last V-2 lobbed at Britain was on March 27, 1945.
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Old 04-26-2004, 10:38 PM
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The V-1 was more of a terror weapon. You'd hear the sound of the jet, and then it would cut out as it ran out of fuel. That's was scary, because you didn't know where it'd fall.

V-1s also did more damage. The V-2 was traveling so fast it dug itself into the ground as it was exploding, limiting the blast area. V-1s landed on the surface and cause damage in a wider area.
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:37 AM
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V-1 and V-2 casualties

V-1 2,754 killed, 6,523 wounded
V-2 5,475 killed, 16,309 wounded
8,229 total killed in England, 22,832 wounded
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:47 AM
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The V-1 was more of a terror weapon. You'd hear the sound of the jet, and then it would cut out as it ran out of fuel.
A common misconcepton. The distance run was measured by a small propellor on the nose, and this triggered what was intended to be a power dive. But the change in attitude interrupted the fuel flow, and that is why the engine cut out. This problem was later fixed, and when the last V-1s fell, the majority hit under power.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:09 PM
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Antwerp also got hit pretty hard.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:18 PM
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And the worst part was the hordes of half-decayed Londoners lurching brainlessly around the bombed-out ruins.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:39 PM
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V-1 2,754 killed, 6,523 wounded
V-2 5,475 killed, 16,309 wounded
8,229 total killed in England, 22,832 wounded
I think you probably have that backwards. The V1 was in use far longer than the V2. Individually the V1s may not have been as effective, but there were far more of them. If we reverse V1 and V2 your figures for deaths are not too dissimilar to those given by SandyHook nine years ago

Also, a cite would be nice, especially as SandyHook's cite link has expired.
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:45 PM
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And the worst part was the hordes of half-decayed Londoners lurching brainlessly around the bombed-out ruins.
And that creepy kid in the gas mask, asking people if they were his mummy.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:59 PM
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Some gutsy RAF pilots were able to fly wingtip-to-wingtip with V-1s and then flip them, disorienting their guidance systems and causing them to crash well short of their targets: http://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/aircraft/v1-1.jpg
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:25 AM
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British intelligence leaked falsified information implying that the rockets were over-shooting their London target by 10 to 20 miles. This tactic worked and for the remainder of the war; most landed on less-heavily populated areas in Kent due to erroneous recalibration.[39]
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Old 06-22-2013, 08:10 PM
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The V-2's gave no warning. The V-1's were nicknamed "buzz bombs" because of the sound of their engines. And even a "dud" V-2 which hit it's target could leave a pretty nasty hole in the ground. (Something like 70ft across, IIRC.)
IIRC at the time the British government refused to even acknowledge that the V-2 attacks were happening to avoid a panic; officially they were gas mains exploding.
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:18 PM
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Some gutsy RAF pilots were able to fly wingtip-to-wingtip with V-1s and then flip them, disorienting their guidance systems and causing them to crash well short of their targets: http://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/aircraft/v1-1.jpg
I thought this tactic was widespread, but according to the RAF pilots in this excellent documentary, very few tipping incidents occurred, especially after a crashed V-1 revealed the Germans had re-engineered them to instantly explode if tipped. Seems many more could have been tipped if the first instance(s) hadn't made the papers.

Video cues up at the interviews of two RAF pilots who shot down/tipped V-1s over England. About two minutes for the relevant parts.
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