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Old 06-23-2016, 04:20 PM
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Looking for a non-cat Kliban cartoon (pie, diner)

Clearly, everything is not on the Internet.

I'm looking for a cartoon from, oh, 30 years ago. I'm 99% sure it's by Kliban.

A man is sitting at the counter at a diner, and he is handing a huge wad of bills to the waitress. There's a plate with what's left of a piece of pie in front of him. The caption reads:

"OK, but if you ask me, $10,000 is a lot for a slice of pie!"

I'd like to get a scan of this, if anyone has it in their collection.
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Old 06-23-2016, 05:17 PM
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Beowulff, I had some time to kill this afternoon so I googled your cartoon. The closest I came was two Kliban cartoons set in diners: one has the punchline, "We're out of kosher pickles" and the other's punchline is, "What did the city of New York do with King Kong?" I expect you saw these, too, in your search, but if either would serve your purpose, I'll send you links.

I did find a Kliban fangroup on Facebook: The B. Kliban Appreciation Society at https://www.facebook.com/groups/2410468388. Maybe they can help?
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Old 06-23-2016, 05:40 PM
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I googled '"OK, but if you ask me, $10,000 is a lot for a slice of pie!" and got exactly one hit - this thread!

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Old 06-23-2016, 05:40 PM
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Waltzes-

Thanks for that suggestion.
I scrolled back 5 years or so, and didn't see it. I'm not on Facebook, but I may join just to post the question - that group seems to be a good resource.

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Old 06-23-2016, 06:55 PM
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I do have the book that has Continuous Eye Persons in it.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:18 PM
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I have the book it was published in, Cats, somewhere.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:34 PM
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What did the city of New York do with King Kong?" is one of the best Kliban cartoons.

But the all-time funniest is "The callous sophisticates laughed at Judy's tiny head." Which always cracks me up for some reason. I think it's Judy's clenched fists.

http://lgoldcommuter.blogspot.com/20...-at-judys.html
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:34 PM
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I'm not a Kliban scholar or anything, but I have been a fan since about 1975. I do have all of his published books that I know of,tho, and this doesn't ring a bell for me as being something I recognize from any of his books.
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I have the book it was published in, Cats, somewhere.
Nope. I went thru my copy of Cats and this isn't there. I haven't gone thru all of his other books yet, but like I say this isn't something I remember from Kliban's books.

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dang - the three BK books I have - "Two Guys Fooling Around With the Moon", "Tiny Footprints", and "Cat" all came up short.

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Old 06-23-2016, 08:47 PM
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As i said, I'm almost certain it's Kliban, but it's been so long, that it could have been an artist with a similar style.

But, I really think it was him.

Thanks for all the help so far, folks.
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:48 PM
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What did the city of New York do with King Kong?" is one of the best Kliban cartoons.

But the all-time funniest is "The callous sophisticates laughed at Judy's tiny head." Which always cracks me up for some reason. I think it's Judy's clenched fists.

http://lgoldcommuter.blogspot.com/20...-at-judys.html
Is the callous sophisticate on the left meant to be Oscar Wilde?
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:58 PM
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Could be. I've never parsed the Callous Sophisticates.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:03 PM
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Is the callous sophisticate on the left meant to be Oscar Wilde?
Yep. It's an obvious one.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:20 PM
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Yup, it's Oscar. What about the other three?
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Is the callous sophisticate on the left meant to be Oscar Wilde?
No, the one on the right. The hulking monster with the bad combover.
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Old 06-23-2016, 09:56 PM
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What did the city of New York do with King Kong?" is one of the best Kliban cartoons.
Agreed. Nicely subtle.

His best work was outside the Cats, too. I'm partial to "And bring some shit for my fly," "Hardw," and "The Victim's Family."
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:29 PM
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I definitely remember the pie cartoon. IIRC, it was in Playboy about 30 years ago.

Maybe the caption was "... a lot for pie and coffee"?
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Old 06-24-2016, 12:58 AM
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Now that makes it actually funny:

Customer: "If you ask me, $10,000 is a lot for a slice of pie!"

Waitress: "And coffee!"
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:57 AM
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No, the one on the right. The hulking monster with the bad combover.
This is Oscar Wilde. Definitely the guy on the left. And he had a full head of hair; no need for a combover.
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Old 06-24-2016, 10:40 AM
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Did anybody else notice that Judy and one of the female c.s.'s have camel toes?
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Old 06-24-2016, 12:53 PM
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I have many favorite Kliban cartoons but near the top of the list is Fuck this primitive shit!
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Old 06-24-2016, 02:48 PM
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While we're out searching for Kliban cartoons, has anyone run across a digital copy of the one from Playboy showing a flavor list on the wall of an ice cream parlor that says "Corn, Wood, Liver, Vanilla", and the caption is the employee's comment to the patron "We're out of vanilla..."?

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Old 06-24-2016, 03:52 PM
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While we're out searching for Kliban cartoons, has anyone run across a digital copy of the one from Playboy showing a flavor list on the wall of an ice cream parlor that says "Corn, Wood, Liver, Vanilla", and the caption is the employee's comment to the patron "We're out of vanilla..."?
Yes, Mix, I saw that one in at least two places yesterday when I was looking for Beowulff's $10k slice of pie. Try googling and if you can't find it come back here and let me know and I'll scout it out for you. It'll be a present from me for your tenth anniversary on the SDMB.

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Old 06-24-2016, 04:22 PM
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While we're out searching for Kliban cartoons, has anyone run across a digital copy of the one from Playboy showing a flavor list on the wall of an ice cream parlor that says "Corn, Wood, Liver, Vanilla", and the caption is the employee's comment to the patron "We're out of vanilla..."?
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Yes, Mix, I saw that one in at least two places yesterday when I was looking for Beowulff's $10k slice of pie. Try googling and if you can't find it come back here and let me know and I'll scout it out for you. It'll be a present from me for your tenth anniversary on the SDMB.
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:54 PM
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In my search, I came across this collection of good ones (Map Filth: "Hey Europe, eat my Florida!"). And now the last one, "Bad Pun disturbing a Rhyme," is bothering me. Any guesses on what it's supposed to mean?
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Old 06-24-2016, 09:54 PM
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I don't recall that caption on any Kliban cartoon.
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Old 06-24-2016, 10:10 PM
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I don't recall that caption on any Kliban cartoon.
Me, neither. It's a bit too narrative for him. Maybe Gahan Wilson, instead?
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:36 AM
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Or Shel Silverstein?
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:50 AM
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Me, neither. It's a bit too narrative for him. Maybe Gahan Wilson, instead?
Do you recall the G.W. cartoon about the lady of the manor and the delphinium bed? One of my favorites.
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Old 06-25-2016, 12:51 PM
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I've gone through my George Booth and my Gahan Wilson books as well as all my Klibans and I haven't seen this cartoon yet. I have spent a few awesome hours looking at some of the best damn cartoons ever created, tho, so it hasn't been a total loss...

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Old 06-25-2016, 01:21 PM
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As terentii noted, it was in Playboy (which is where I must have seen it). I wonder if it never made it into any collections.
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Old 06-25-2016, 02:52 PM
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As terentii noted, it was in Playboy (which is where I must have seen it). I wonder if it never made it into any collections.
I considered briefly that it may have been a Gary Larson cartoon, but no luck in searching that archive, either.

Thinking about the issues of Playboy I had before I started buying them regularly (1983--2007), the cartoon may have appeared in the April or August '79 issue (PoMs Missy Cleveland and Dorothy Stratten), but this is merely a guess based on my impression of them.

Two other possibilities: May 1977 (Shiela Mullen) and December 1981 (Patricia Farinelli), but these are less likely.
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Old 06-25-2016, 02:56 PM
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One other possibility: November 1977 (Rita Lee). I didn't own many copies before 1983, but I definitely remember having this one and those above. The time frame is about right, too.
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Old 06-25-2016, 03:25 PM
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This is so weird! I can see the cartoon clearly in my mind's eye: It was a b&w line drawing in the lower left-hand corner of a left-hand page. For some reason, I associate it with the summer of '79, which was a busy time in my life. I was into Kliban at the time, too, which may be why the memory is so strong.

Anyway, the above issues do supply some kind of starting point. I'd look first in the August '79 issue. The alternative is to start slogging through every issue from January 1983 on. (Not an entirely unpleasant task , but I just don't have the time!)

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I think this cartoon may have been one of those in the limited-edition series 14 Klibans of gentlemen in a fancy pie diner.
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Yes, Mix, I saw that one in at least two places yesterday when I was looking for Beowulff's $10k slice of pie. Try googling and if you can't find it come back here and let me know and I'll scout it out for you. It'll be a present from me for your tenth anniversary on the SDMB.
Muchas gracias, guys! Going up on my cube wall
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Old 06-27-2016, 02:51 PM
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Speaking of B. Kliban and King Kong....

https://img1.etsystatic.com/110/0/93...62499_3ezh.jpg
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Old 07-03-2016, 09:53 PM
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Well, I am losing hope of ever finding it.
I was in a very cool bookstore today (Arcana, in Culver City), and happened to see the book "playboy 50 years the cartoons.” I looked up all the Kliban entries in the index, and it wasn’t in the book. I then leafed though the book, in the off chance that it was another artist, and didn’t see it anywhere.

*sigh*
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Old 07-03-2016, 09:59 PM
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Kliban also drew for the National Lampoon, and I'm pretty sure that was where this cartoon appeared.
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Old 07-04-2016, 05:10 AM
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Another idea.

Publish the cartoon as your own and wait to see who sues you and what evidence they have in deposition.
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Old 07-04-2016, 06:32 AM
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Kliban also drew for the National Lampoon, and I'm pretty sure that was where this cartoon appeared.
That would narrow it down even more. The only two copies of Lampoon I ever owned were the ones with the puppy and the cheerleader on their covers.
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Old 07-04-2016, 06:39 AM
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Another idea.

Publish the cartoon as your own and wait to see who sues you and what evidence they have in deposition.
Hmmmm. I've been thinking of actually drawing my own version as in Post #18.
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