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Old 07-15-2004, 01:32 PM
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Movies Which Depict Sexual Abuse of Children (Not about child porn)

In this tread about child actors in intense and/or disturbing scenes, at least four movies are mentioned in which there are scenes involving the sexual abuse of chilren.

In eight posts.
  • The Butterfly Effect (boy and girl are made to strip naked for the girl's father's camera) (no nudity on screen)
  • Taxi Driver (a child prostitute befriends a disaffected Vietnam vet)
  • Pretty Baby (a photographer falls in love with a child prostitute)
  • The Exorcist (a young girl is sexually tormented by a supernatural force)

So I've come to the realization that this type of thing is more common than I originally thought.

Or is it? I turn to the SDMB movie buffs, in their infinite knowledge, to tell me how common of an occurence this is.

I can only think of three more:
  • Lolita (middle-aged man falls in love, and has sex with, a 12-year-old girl)
  • Dazed & Confused (junior high girls are made to bare their breasts on command)
  • The Tin Drum (a nine-ish year-old boy is fellated)

Any others?
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Old 07-15-2004, 02:20 PM
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Happiness This movie is so depressing on so many levels, not the least of which is a husband molesting his son's friends. I saw it once a while ago so the plot details have eluded me. But I'm sure it's IMDB-able.
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Old 07-15-2004, 02:56 PM
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[*]Dazed & Confused (junior high girls are made to bare their breasts on command
Really? I must have missed that part the last three times I saw it. True, they were made to debase themselves and ask high school kids to marry them, and made to promise they'd "do anything", but I don't recall any hooters.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:03 PM
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Oh, and for another example, there was Lipstick, in which a girl got raped.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:05 PM
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Really? I must have missed that part the last three times I saw it. True, they were made to debase themselves and ask high school kids to marry them, and made to promise they'd "do anything", but I don't recall any hooters.
At the beginning of the movies, where the going-to-be-seniors high school girls are hazing the going-to-be-freshmen junior high girls, ISTR that one of the conditions of their hazing was that they had to lift their shirts and show their bras (if not their boobs) on command. Maybe I'm not remembering this correctly.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:06 PM
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Really? I must have missed that part the last three times I saw it. True, they were made to debase themselves and ask high school kids to marry them, and made to promise they'd "do anything", but I don't recall any hooters.
You're not the only one who missed it.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:13 PM
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Bastard out of Carolina

I've never been able to watch this movie twice. Jena Malone, at 10 or 12 years old, gets violently raped by her stepfather, played by Ron Eldard.

Disturbing doesn't begin to cover it.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:15 PM
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At the beginning of the movies, where the going-to-be-seniors high school girls are hazing the going-to-be-freshmen junior high girls, ISTR that one of the conditions of their hazing was that they had to lift their shirts and show their bras (if not their boobs) on command. Maybe I'm not remembering this correctly.
You must be conflating that movie with something else, or filling in a detail that wasn't there. They were made to lay on the ground and immitate bacon frying. They were made to suck pacifiers. They were covered in various foods. And they were made to propose to boys. But I'm pretty sure there were no naked boobs.

Dude, maybe you were just smokin' too much weed when you saw it. You know, George Washington used to grow acres of weed.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:17 PM
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Although it was never on screen, there was implied underage rape in Forrest Gump.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:21 PM
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Oh, and for another example, there was Lipstick, in which a girl got raped.
I'm pretty sure the rape victim in Lipstick was a grown woman. She was discovered by her younger sister, though.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:26 PM
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He knew it would be a good cash crop for the southern states, man.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:32 PM
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Thanks for putting spoilers where we can all see them in the thread preview popup . I haven't seen Butterfly Effect and knew about its content but no specifics....until now.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:35 PM
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure the rape victim in Lipstick was a grown woman. She was discovered by her younger sister, though.
I never saw it, but I have a vague memory of seeing a clip, and it was the younger sister that was raped. Actually, I think both of them were, by the same guy. Of course, this was from a clip from a movie I never saw, nearly 30 years ago. So naturally you may take my word as gospel.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:43 PM
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Thanks for putting spoilers where we can all see them in the thread preview popup . I haven't seen Butterfly Effect and knew about its content but no specifics....until now.
Sorry, Ludovic. I consider that a minor plot point and not a major spoiler. But if anyone else disagrees with me I'll ask a moderator to put spoiler tags around it.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:46 PM
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What about The Basketball Diaries?
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The scene with the basketball coach in the shower stall. IIRC
I realize that Leo was like 43 years old when he played the part , but wasn't the character still in high school?
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:21 PM
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Happiness This movie is so depressing on so many levels, not the least of which is a husband molesting his son's friends. I saw it once a while ago so the plot details have eluded me. But I'm sure it's IMDB-able.
And yet the last scene manages to be both wonderfully uplifting and redeeming, as well as funny in a "I feel sooo guilty for laughing" kind of way.

I'll add "The Magdalene Sisters," which includes a scene of nuns sexually humilliating teen mothers and a priest molesting one.
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:35 PM
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Regarding Bastard Out of Carolina, I can't even look at that actor in anything else now. I just see a heinous rapist. Must be great acting!

Other movies with sexual abuse:
Delores Claiborne
Boys Don't Cry
-- does that count?
Sleepers
Stir of Echos
-- Seems like there's a young girl raped in that one...
Mystic River -- There was abuse in that one, too, wasn't there?

What's with three Kevin Bacon movies all featuring children being sexually abused?

Note: if you go to IMDB, and search under "sexual abuse" there's about a couple dozen... Many are made for TV movies and I didn't want to read 'em all to find out how many were about children.
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:37 PM
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The Prince of Tides has an extremely disturbing rape scene.

The movie Leolo depicts a prostitute jerking off two young boys through their underwear. I always go when I watch that scene...how the heck did they get away with filming it???
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:43 PM
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The main character in The Color Purple ...
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has two children by her step-father when she’s quite young. Her husband later attempts to rape her barely-nubile younger sister.
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:58 PM
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I never saw it, but I have a vague memory of seeing a clip, and it was the younger sister that was raped. Actually, I think both of them were, by the same guy. Of course, this was from a clip from a movie I never saw, nearly 30 years ago. So naturally you may take my word as gospel.
I saw it, but Oh my Goodness, that was so long ago!! This movie is 15-20 some odd years old, I hope I don't need spoilers for it??

But just in case someone gets cranky, I'll see if I can remember spoilers correctly. If not, forgive me.

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IIRC, they were both raped. The older sister (they were both sisters in real life too, the Hemingways, Margeaux and Murial), was raped by the guy first, she was the character for whom the title was named Lipstick, she was a model. If i remember, it was as her little sister began her entry into the world of modeling that she was also raped by the same perpetrator.

The older sister only THEN becomes enraged enough to go after him.
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:12 PM
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He knew it would be a good cash crop for the southern states, man.
Whenever he came home, Martha would be waiting for him with a big, fat bowl. martha was a hip, hip, hip, hip lady, man.
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:38 PM
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8mm - the whole movie is about a teen girl who dies in a rape/snuff film (I don't reccomend watching it'
Eye for an eye - Sally Field's daughter is violently raped and killed at the beginning (extremely disturbing scene)
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:52 PM
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Tim Roth's 'The War Zone' is a great but depressing movie. It features a father who has sex, repeatedly, with his mid-teenaged daughter.
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Old 07-15-2004, 06:43 PM
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Good God. Yeah, that one nearly killed me, watching it. Can you tell I was a Canadian and Catholic at the time?

In "The Cell", which I could not watch all of...
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Old 07-15-2004, 07:15 PM
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Here's the IMDB listing for child molestation and also for child molestor.
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Old 07-15-2004, 07:18 PM
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A few more (there's some overlap but not completely): child prostitution and child rape
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Old 07-15-2004, 07:42 PM
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Osama. It's subtle, but very disturbing.

Irene Cara was asked to strip in Fame, though I'm not sure of what year it was. Still, there's a good chance the character was under 18 (even if the actress wasn't).

Since any portrayal of sex between someone under 18 and an adult can be construed as sexual abuse, there are the following:

There was a scene in Almost Famous when the 15 year old Cameron Crowe character is taken to bed by a couple of groupies. Though he doesn't seem to have any problems with the experience.

Le Souffle au coeur features a 15-year-old boy having sex with his mother. It's a charming flick.
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Old 07-15-2004, 08:12 PM
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What's with three Kevin Bacon movies all featuring children being sexually abused?
Another one for the Bacon list: The Woodsman. It's an excellent, excellent movie, and contains at least one deeply squirm-inducing scene. I'm going to fairly extensively spoil the plot in the box below. Reveal at your own risk. If you choose not to view the spoilers, know that the movie is very, very much worth seeing, though the content is fairly grim. Bacon himself gives a pretty amazing performance.
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The plot of The Woodsman centers on Bacon's character being released into the community after serving a prison term for child molestation. He struggles with his urges, including following a 12-ish girl around a mall, while holding down a dead-end job and attempting to build a normal relationship with a woman he meets there. He also sits in his apartment window and watches the school playground across the street, which is how he notices another guy scoping out the kids. Before long, he figures out this other guy is another molester looking for targets. Towards the end of the movie, this other guy succeeds in luring a young boy into his car, and while we don't see the actual scene of abuse, there's no doubt about what happens.

The squirm-inducing scene: Bacon is riding the bus home from work. A girl gets on, maybe 11 or 12. (One thing the movie gets very right is that the deviant sexual urges are extremely consistent.) He watches her. He skips his own stop, and follows her. He meets her in the park, where she's watching birds. He initiates a friendly conversation. (Another thing the movie gets right: The only time Bacon is truly comfortable and happy is when he's "befriending" a child. Insightful, but creepy and disturbing.)

And toward the end of the scene, which has them on a park bench, along among the trees, talking about birds, Bacon casually turns to the girl and says, "Would you like to sit on my lap?"

I won't describe the last ten minutes of the movie, but I will say it's quite a bit more positive and hopeful than the above might suggest.
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Old 07-15-2004, 08:23 PM
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Well, there's Little Boy Blue...


Big spoilers in box. So read the IMDB description first here and see if you have interest in the movie before reading the spoilers, ok?

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Jimmy's father was...damaged while at war and can no longer preform, so to get his kicks he has his son screw his wife- at gunpoint. This is shown once, although Jimmy is in his late teens at the time. However, his father informs him that his little brothers, boys about 7 and 4, are really Jimmy's sons. Jimmy is 18 or 19, so you do the math
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Old 07-15-2004, 08:38 PM
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Sybil, starring Sally Field. In one brief but horrifying flashback to her childhood abuse
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we see her as a young girl on a table in her mother's basement, her legs tied spread eagle to an overhead light fixture.
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Old 07-15-2004, 08:41 PM
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Although it was never on screen, there was implied underage rape in Forrest Gump.

Yep, Jenny's father abused her and her sisters.

Made for TV movies-"I Know My First Name is Steven", which is really disturbing, when you consider it was a true story.

"A Time To Kill", based on the book by John Grisham opens with the violent rape of a 10 year old black girl in the rural south by two redneck losers.
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:15 PM
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Lumpy, how can that be? It would be pulled out of the ceiling. I read that book a long time ago, but I didn't really believe it. In the book she was completely upside-down, but also spread eagle tied to one light fixture. That just doesn't make sense.

I'm not remembering it happening in the basement, either. I think in the book it was in the kitchen.

Sorry, I've just got a great big "Huh?" going on from remembering that book.
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:24 PM
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Well, she was a small child, and perhaps it was one of those big metal chandelier type hanging lamps?
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:34 PM
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I think it's a lot better when they imply things. I don't know why they seem to want to put so much horribly graphic (i.e. rape) scenes in movies these days. It's not only unneccesary, but you *know* there's sickos and pedophiles out there getting turned on and maybe even getting ideas. I find it seriously disturbing.
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Old 07-16-2004, 03:43 PM
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Re Sybil:
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It was one of those hanging lights on a cord with a flat metal shade. Something (a mop or broom pole?) was tied across the fixture and the girl's legs tied to the ends of the pole. I couldn't find a link to a photo; it might count as kiddie porn.
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Old 07-16-2004, 04:07 PM
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In Sybil, wasn't her mother
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raping her with an old-fashioned shoe buttonhook? Either that, or douching her with ice water?
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Old 07-16-2004, 04:44 PM
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The Tin Drum (a nine-ish year-old boy is fellated)
Just a minor nitpick, but it's the other way round. The boy performs oral sex on an older girl and while you can call the scene disturbing, you can hardly count it as abuse.

A film that depicts several instances of abuse is A ma Soeur!, containing the on-screen rape of a thirteen-year-old girl and a fifteen-year-old being coerced into a variety of acts.
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Old 07-16-2004, 05:49 PM
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Since any portrayal of sex between someone under 18 and an adult can be construed as sexual abuse, there are the following:
Why did I know it was only a matter of time before somebody said something like this?

Would you classify The Blue Lagoon as child abuse? Did the two teens sexually molest each other??
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Old 07-16-2004, 07:07 PM
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Why did I know it was only a matter of time before somebody said something like this?

Would you classify The Blue Lagoon as child abuse? Did the two teens sexually molest each other??
Neither of them was an adult, they were both children. I see no comparison between what Reality Chuck said, and what you have just said.
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Old 07-16-2004, 09:10 PM
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Ivylass-it was both.

(At least according to the book).
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Old 07-16-2004, 09:28 PM
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Since any portrayal of sex between someone under 18 and an adult can be construed as sexual abuse, there are the following:

There was a scene in Almost Famous when the 15 year old Cameron Crowe character is taken to bed by a couple of groupies. Though he doesn't seem to have any problems with the experience.
The ages of those particular groupies were not mentioned, but as Miss Penny Lane was apparently only 16 herself it seems reasonable to guess that the other girls may have been under 18 as well. It's certainly not clear that they're legally adults.

I've always been uncomfortable with that scene myself though, just because the boy initially protests and has to be dragged onto the bed by the girls. It seems that he wasn't truly unwilling, just nervous and embarassed, but it always creeps me out when there's any kind of sex scene in a movie that suggests coerced sex.
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Old 07-16-2004, 09:37 PM
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The movie Big freaked me out when I saw it. Tom Hanks plays a 10-year old boy who has sex with a grown-up woman. Very disturbing.


I only saw a little bit of Robin Williams in Jack but I got the impression something similar happened here too.
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Old 07-16-2004, 09:57 PM
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The movie Big freaked me out when I saw it. Tom Hanks plays a 10-year old boy who has sex with a grown-up woman. Very disturbing.


I only saw a little bit of Robin Williams in Jack but I got the impression something similar happened here too.
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Old 07-17-2004, 06:43 AM
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The movie Big freaked me out when I saw it. Tom Hanks plays a 10-year old boy who has sex with a grown-up woman. Very disturbing.
I don't think Tom Hanks's character slept with Elizabeth Perkins's character in Big. He demanded the top bunk while she was on the bottom bunk, remember?
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Old 07-17-2004, 08:05 AM
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In Sybil, wasn't her mother
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raping her with an old-fashioned shoe buttonhook? Either that, or douching her with ice water?
All of the above.

And in another amazingly graphic for network TV scene- the Jean Smart movie about Aileen Wournos in which she flashbacks to being raped as a little girl by her teen brother who also puts out his cigarette on her forehead. They actually show him, while both are fully clothed, his pants seem open & her skirt bunched up, pumping away at her. EWWWWWWW!
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:44 AM
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Good God. Yeah, that one nearly killed me, watching it. Can you tell I was a Canadian and Catholic at the time?

In "The Cell", which I could not watch all of...
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was there sexual abuse of the child, or was it only physical and verbal? I had to turn it off when the father (?) hit him with the iron.
Have not seen it in a long time so I really don't remember...I wanted to mention that in Melvin Van Peebles 1970's film "Sweet Sweetbacks Badaaaaas Song" in one of the opening scenes Mario Van Peebles who was 11 at the time was nude, pretty much full frontal nudity not for a long amount of time but he was nude and simulated sex with a woman in the movie who was playing the role of a prostitute. Not only did Melvin get away with it but I think that a lot of people feel it was one of the greatest movies of all times including my own father.
Apparently it was the turning point from so called blaxploitation films to more serious films although I have never seen more than 30 minutes of the movie.
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Old 07-30-2004, 11:26 AM
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I don't think Tom Hanks's character slept with Elizabeth Perkins's character in Big. He demanded the top bunk while she was on the bottom bunk, remember?
Yes, in the early part of their relationship. Later, they kiss, she starts unbuttoning her blouse and then reaches behind her to turn off the light. He smiles and turns the light back on. The sex takes place off screen, but I was certain they'd done it when I saw the movie some time ago.
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:51 PM
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Two that really stood out for me when I saw them were Dolores Claiborne
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young girl forced to give daddy a handjob on a ferry, and much worse implied
and Prince of Tides
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young boy being raped, and we see way too much of it


I really hate that shit, especially when I'm totally unprepared for it.
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Old 07-30-2004, 08:35 PM
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Don't know if these count:

There was a Richard Pryor movie, the name of which I can't remember, where I think he was driving a bus full of children (war orphans?). One little girl, no older than 11 or 12, had been a prostitute, and she thinks that having sex with adult men is a perfectly normal thing. She keeps trying to get Pryor to sleep with her, but Pryor is completely horrified at the suggestion and of course doesn't do it.

In the Melanie Griffith movie Milk Money, two young brothers decide that they want to see boobies. So they save up their milk money for months, then take it into town and offer it to a prostitute (Griffith) to show them her breasts. I seem to remember that she actually does it. And then follows them home and falls in love with their father.
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