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Old 07-27-2004, 08:10 AM
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Superhero Noir

I'm setting up a role-playing game campaign, in the Superhero Noir genre. I have some ideas of inspiration, but I was wondering what else might be out there.

X-Files has the right style, Batman's kinda close.. Powers and Planetary are both spot-on. Any other thoughts?

Superpowers are a must. Dark tone is a must. Investigative emphasis is a bonus.
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:19 AM
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The Watchmen, by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons - if you don't know it, it is generally considered the best comic book ever written. Check it out - very noir and wrapped around a great mystery...
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:23 AM
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I do know Watchmen, yes.. that's a pretty good fit too. As is Hellboy, now that I think about it.
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:38 AM
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Miller's Batman: Year One.
Darwyn Cooke's Catwoman and New Frontier.
Loeb and Sales' Batman: The Long Halloween and Dark Victory.
Bendis' Sam and Twitch.
Sandman Mystery Theater.
Bendis'Alias.

Note, half my suggestions don't have superpowers or are written by Brian Michael Bendis.

.... does anyone else do noir superheroes besides DC?
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:46 AM
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SLEEPER
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:50 AM
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Bendis'Alias.

.... does anyone else do noir superheroes besides DC?
Editing mine. Yes.

Wasn't there a series about a secret agent type.. I seem to recall someone named Sealie or something mentioning it in the Weekly Comic Book Review threads sometimes.. just released a TPB.. I think it was called The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down.
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Old 07-27-2004, 09:01 AM
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CandidGamera. What is it about my posts that compels people to nitpick? If I didn't know I was inadvertantly bringing smiles to people's faces, I'd feel picked on.

Sleeper is also by DC/Wildstorm. I'm just noting DC comics seems to be dominating this brand of genre.

Oh, and the late 80s Andrew Helfer's The Shadow, with Bill Sienkiewicz and Kyle Baker handling art chores.

The first issue of Love and Rockets with the Gilbert Hernandez BEM storyline is technically crime noir with a lot of humor and science fiction pastiche thrown in.
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Old 07-27-2004, 09:02 AM
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Marshall Law.
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Old 07-27-2004, 09:06 AM
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CandidGamera. What is it about my posts that compels people to nitpick? If I didn't know I was inadvertantly bringing smiles to people's faces, I'd feel picked on.
It seemed funny! No offense was meant.
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Old 07-27-2004, 09:08 AM
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V for Vendetta. One of my favorites, along with Frank Miller's runs on Daredevil.
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Old 07-27-2004, 09:25 AM
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Sleeper is also by DC/Wildstorm. I'm just noting DC comics seems to be dominating this brand of genre.
Just so we're clear, I was responding to the OP, not to your post. And yes, DC definitely dominates this subgenre. Bless their hearts.
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Old 07-27-2004, 10:39 AM
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Selkie and CandidGamera. Oh, shoot, now I feel bad. Oh, don't mind me. I'm cranky because it's a brambly gray wet Ohio day. Pay me no attention.
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Old 07-27-2004, 12:00 PM
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Grant Morrison's run on Doom Patrol.
Ms. Tree maybe?
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Old 07-27-2004, 12:05 PM
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Is Preacher considered noir? Me likes Preacher.

Second vote for Watchmen.
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Old 07-27-2004, 12:32 PM
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Daredevil has gone in and out of it's noir phases, specifically with Frank Miller's contributions.
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Old 07-27-2004, 04:05 PM
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How about the "Tarnished Angel" story arc from Kurt Buseik's Astro City, would that count? It has a fairly Raymond Chandler pulpish gloom to it.
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Old 07-27-2004, 06:46 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions so far; now I'll have to hunt some trade paperbacks.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:16 PM
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So, dare I ask, is anyone interested in seeing any of the material I come up with? Plots, Characters, etc.? Might only appeal to the Crossover RPG/Comic fans here on the board, of which there are a few..
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:23 PM
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Has Green Arrow gone noir, or is it just the aftermath of "City Walls" that I'm seeing?
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:28 PM
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Has Green Arrow gone noir, or is it just the aftermath of "City Walls" that I'm seeing?
I think there have been "noirish" tendencies to the entire run so far. That's probably to be expected in a "superhero" book where the protagonist is, after all, a normal guy.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:32 PM
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DC's late '80s run of The Question, written by Denny O'Neil--lots of noir elements and atmosphere.
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:07 PM
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Greyshirt from Tomorrow Stories has that feel to it.

Elseworld stories are good too -

Batman : The Doom That Came to Gotham is pretty good, but if you are using Hellboy as a source it's basically Mike Mignola stealing his own material there.

Another Batman elseworlds too, Batman : Nine Lives which I thought was really cool.

All pretty different time periods though.
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