"We couldn't refrain from asking....Is there intellegent life in Iceland?

Somebody please tell me if the following retorical questions have a place in the GQ forum:

If Iceland is such a Utopia why are they members of the evil North American Treay Organization? Why did their representative vote for the bombing?

How can a nation like Iceland have any self respect if they can't even defend themselves with their own army? Why must America do it for them?

Aren't Icelanders today responsible for all the rape, plunder, and pain inflicted by their Viking anscestors? (I'm of Irish desent and have blonde hair. I personally blame Thorwhatsit for the rape of my great-great-great-great-great-etc grandmother!)

I don't care where you are from, such ill-informed retorical questions put in such terms are just rude.

Thorwhosit riles up the worst nationalistic feelings in people like me. And I don't like it. I have better things to do than to justify the actions of the greatest democracy on Earth to an ignorant troll.

However, we let him bait us, and then after everybody jumps to defend the flag and attempts to make him understand our point of view, he congradulates himself for spurring a useful debate. If he is taking his cue from the lighthearted exchanges on the War of 1812 thread, he failed miserably. It's obvious to me that Thormacallit has neither the wit, finesse, style nor intelligence for such an exchange.

In the greatest traditions of Thoramajig I ask the following:

Hey Thor! Do you still beat your wife?

Papa, I think I love you! *smooch*!
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Oops -- I forgot this was the BBQ Pit:
Thor -- you're a twit. *kick in the butt*

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Full of 'satiable curtiosity

Just to remind you off one thing, Papabear. NATO does not stand for North American Treaty Organization, but North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

I think Iceland voted on the bombing to show unity within NATO.

Iceland has never had an army. Nevertheless Iceland has never lost a war. Iceland was at war with the Brittish in the 60's and 70's, when Iceland decided to expand their national waters to 200 miles. It was called the Cod war. Iceland had no warships, but won all the same. Now every country on this planet benefits from Icelands victory, which was won without a single drop of blood being shed.

As for the Vikings. They were among the finest artists the world has ever known. Many sagas and poems still exist from that time, and were surprisngly all written by an Icelandic viking named Snorri Sturluson. It is no coincident that a whole era of human history has been named after the vikings. Their ships and seamanhip was unparalleled at that time. It was the year 1000 AD that an Icelandic viking named, Leifur Heppni Eiriksson, or Leif the Lucky Ericsson, discovered Vinland(Wineland) which today is refered to as America.

Papabear; I dont think you are being very subjective. Your ignorance, and rage reveal you to be quite naive.

Excuse my spellig. English is my second language and I don't have a spellchecker.

Greetings, Hoe.

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correct me if I'm wrong (as I'm sure you will), but I think papabear's point was that those types of questions serve no purpose other than to piss people off....they are inflamatory and full of half-truths, or at least truths twisted to show things in the worst possible light. I think he was trying to say that questions put in that way (as were a few of Thor's questions) have no place on this message board.

Hoe - You have read my entire post out of context. I was illustrating the absurdity of Thor's anti-Ameican posts by doing the same in respect to Iceland. Read the opening sentence. Clearly my opinion is; no, they are not appropriate, logical, or objective questions. My only ignorance is in expecting people to carefully read what I have written! I await an apology (but I won't hold my breath)

Thanks, Yep! I'm glad someone got it.

well I see you found yourself a new site to hide in.
If you rise above your nationalism for a sec you would soon discover that I was not attacking "The Greatest Democracy On Earth" but merely pointing out that their might be a problem or two in your foreign polecy among other things.
I 'm also gonna point out that your question has nothing in common with mine. For ins. I never asked how your wife was doing (barking I guess)

I can't recall having attacked you personally, but wherever I post a topic you show up and insult me.

So let's keep up the fun.

THOR

Your just not worth the trouble, Thor.

Then butt of Kid!!!!

Okay, Thor.

Here's the deal. Your grasp of English is not firm enough to comprehend any of the points I'm making. Maybe you are not a troll. Maybe you are just linguistically tactless.

Perhaps logic gets lost in the translation. I don't know. I have no confidence that my own facility for other languages could pass muster on anything above a tourist level.

I don't think you are equipted to engage in any kind of usefull debate in English. You misinterpret what others post and you're own posts are often baffling (but of Kid?). Any idioms or cultural references are lost on you. ("Do you still beat your wife" is an oft used example of an unfair question.

I'm sorry you feel I am picking on you. You said things that I couldn't let stand. Hypocrasy of the sort you were posting will almost always be met with sarcasm and assumptions about your intelligence.

I will no longer try to explain to you why your posts are offensive. Without first understanding the most basic nuances of the language I feel that is impossible. Let me just state that they are offensive. In the future you should probably try discussing such topics in a forum that uses a language you are more familiar with.

SHAME on you, Pb, for hiding here in the BBQ pit in hopes the Thormagummy couldn't find you!

Excuse my spellig. English is my second language and I don't have a spellchecker. Greetings, Hoe.

I, for one, am perfectly willing to forgive your spellig. However, at this time I am unable to overlook the fact you have named yourself after a gardening implement.

Dear Nickrz

For the record: I am NOT THOR. Although THOR has used my computer to access this site, I want you to know I am a seperate entity. THOR introduced me to this site and I find it entertaining and interesting.

Be well, Hoe.

PS: As for the name, it's my middle name, Hoe, originated in France. I am a Hugenot.

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THOR -- NOW you say:

If you rise above your nationalism for a sec you would soon discover that I was not attacking "The Greatest Democracy On Earth" but merely pointing out that their might be a problem or two in your foreign polecy among other things.

"Merely pointing out" a "problem or two" my Aunt Fanny! You come in here and post questions that are provacative and hostile and then act surprised that people tell you to get stuffed. To then act like you HAVEN'T been a troll indicates that you are stupid as well as ill-mannered. And I wouldn't pick a fight with PapaBear if I were you; he is merely making points that MANY of us are in absolute agreement with, and attacking him is an invitation to have a lot of other people join in kicking your ass. How old are you, anyway? Because your posts indicate you're about fourteen.

As for the Vikings. They were among the finest...

I used to be proud of my viking ancestry, but after reading the posts from Thor "then butt of kid"Leifer and Hoe... I'M SO ASHAMED!

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Gosh.... I like you people!!

Your so hmmmmm
American!

THANKS

Thor, just get you feeling international....Here is an ex-patriate Finlander, who currently waves around a Canadian flag.....just happen to think that yep, you must be a true bonafide putz..

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Cogito Ergo Vroom
I think therefore I ride fast...

I don't care about the Iceland shit, but I consider myself an educated Troll, so leave the Trolls alone.Unfortunate how "troll" became such a negative term in the discussion boards.

Hoe:

I am a Hugenot.

Is that yoda-ese for small?

Alright! I am Darth Vader. Hugenot is a secret word for a Dark Lord of the Sith. I wouldn't give a wookies ass about intelligent life of this puny planet in this slum of the galaxy.

Having said that, I'm afraid I'll have to turn all of you to the Dark Side. Maybe you can explain yourselves to the Emperor when he arives.

The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.


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I think I know why Thor dislikes America. The vikings were probably the first Europeans to reach the Americas. Lief Ericson and some other vikings made it to North Eastern Canada before Columbus sailed in 1492, but the Vikings were unable to establish settlements.

So, Thor probably wishes America had become Viking colonies instead of English colonies. Then he wouldn't need to learn English. Also, the Minnesota Vikings are upset they didn't make it to the Super Bowl last year. There is a lot of frustration about America among Thor and Scandinavian people.

Does Thor still beat his wife?

When did Thor quit using a vacuum cleaner for personal satisfaction?

Does Thor know it's not safe to ingest his own excrement?

Why is it that Thor kisses my rosey butthole every night before going to bed?

Why are the women in Iceland so ugly, and yet still won't give it up for Thor?

When did Thor quit shooting smack?

Why can't Thor afford to have his own computer living in the Icelandic paradise?

How much money would it take to make Thor let me tie him up and beat him... again?

Hey! These rhetorical questions are fun!

And last, not rhetorically, how does one go about making sure immigration cavity searches someone if he comes to visit this decrepit, flawed nation of ours?

"But of Kid" is, IIRC, an old Icelandic custom. Because the sheep are too fast for the overstuffed degenerate berserkers to catch, they make do with trained goats. Habits such as this explain why they were driven off the European mainland and forced to live on a live volcano.


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Dr. Fidelius, Charlatan
Associate Curator Anomalous Paleontology, Miskatonic University
"You cannot reason a man out of a position that he did not reach through reason."

Isn't it about time for a lightning bolt?

(Impersonating a god's gotta be a frying offense!)

-Melin

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. Because the sheep are too fast for the
overstuffed degenerate berserkers to catch, they make do with trained goats.

Ah, that would explain the horned hats- a decoy/desguise..

(excuse me while I forge my geneological records)

I think Thor just needs a vacation during the long winters in Iceland somewhere nice and warm, like the Mediterranean or Florida.

No, ve're not Fikings, ve're yust friendly Svedish fishermen. Ve disguise ourselfs as moo-cows; moo-cows don't scare the fishies...

Yu see any Fikings, Sven? No?

Yu see any Fikings, Olaf? No?

See, no one seen any Fikings here, by Odin.. um, I mean By Yiminy!

( Do you think it fooled them? Okay, burn the houses, steal the sheep, and rape the women. And Sven, try to get it right this time...)


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Dr. Fidelius, Charlatan
Associate Curator Anomalous Paleontology, Miskatonic University
"You cannot reason a man out of a position that he did not reach through reason."

Personally, I think some of the posts here have gone way overboard. Yes, Thor is a troll, but that's no excuse for the kind of racial, ethnic and anti-foreign comments I'm seeing here. Even if Thor knew he was being a jerk--Whether he was malicious or just ignorant is not the point here. Ignorance is no excuse, for unrepentant poor behavior, but neither is being offended.--he was never personal. You people, though, have stooped way below his level, making fun of both his and his innocent friend Hoe's names, ancestry and country of origin. For people who are so quick to point out any sort of over-generalizion when it affects you, you sure don't seem to mind making derogatory comments about an entire nation of people when one of them pisses you off. In my opinion, attacking the spelling and grammar of Thor and Hoe (What did Hoe ever do to you?! He never even defended Thor, just his country, and you styart making fun of his name and ancestry.) is especially low. Do you make fun of immegrants and tourists as well? Papa Bear, how would you respond if the kids in your classroom started attacking a foreign exchange student who had a made couple of possibly inadvetant derrogatory statemants about America? Besides, I really don't understand the way some of you respond to trolls here. If their purpose is to stir up anger and controversy by making provocative statements, why do you take the bait so readilly. It seems like ignoring them would make them leave a lot quicker than giving them exactly what they want. It may be hard to ignore jerks in real life, but on a message board, it should be easy. Instead, you say things that would quickly get you shot or beaten up in real life.

Keep in mind, I'm not trying to defend Thor, although he does seem to have made an attempt to behave better since he started. Cross cultural experiences are always trying, but I would cut people like that a little extra slack, rather than holding it against them. Maybe Thor is in fact a little insensitive and naive. He was admittedly slow to take a hint (or even a direct confrontation). There is still no reason to go overboard.

Papa Bear, how would you respond if the kids in your classroom started attacking a foreign exchange student who had a made couple of possibly inadvetant derrogatory statemants about America?

For cryin' out load, Alan. Read my posts before you slam me, will you?

The only derogatory comments I made about Iceland were the one's I made to illustrate the illogic and unfairness of Thor's OPs. You ask me, "how would I feel...?" That's exactly the question I was asking.

Again, I await an apology. (and again I'm not going to hold my breath.)

PS - "inadvertant" my ass!

but that's no excuse for the kind of racial, ethnic and anti-foreign comments I'm
seeing here.

Huh? This is the friggin' BBQ pit.

For people who are so quick to point out any
sort of over-generalizion when it affects you, you sure don't seem to mind making
derogatory comments about an entire nation of people when one of them pisses you
off. In my opinion, attacking the spelling and grammar of Thor and Hoe (What did Hoe
ever do to you?! He never even defended Thor, just his country, and you styart
making fun of his name and ancestry.) is especially low.

I never took anything Thor said personally, and I don't think most of the other posters lost any sleep over his comments either. I posted here for fun, not to "avenge my country" or whatever. Other "anti-Iclandic" posts on here were intended as a parody of his posts. You needn't take stuff here so seriously- the BBQ pit is the cyber equivilent of a water balloon fight, not a world war.

Thanks Alan.
I think you are the best movie director in the world.

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Alan: Yes, i make fun of europeans. I run up to them and scream obsceneties in spanish to them, and steal the candy from theri babies. I also make immigrants pick the ticks off of my dog.(SARCASM! =) ). Alan, read the friggin title of the message board, we can flame, and piss people off that is the point of this board.For you alan: ¡Aquí, puede hablar sobre otras personas!

I just wanted to point out to all of the Thorleifur bashers that I am no tthe Icelandic gent who has been causing all of this flaming. I am from Colorado and love the good ole U S of A. I have been getting a few flames here and there from folks who confuse me and Thorleifur.

Man, did I pick the wrong name!

All right, everyone, time for a contest! Let's come up with a new name for Thor. My personal choice is "ThunderGod!"

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Hunter Thompson

a name for thor eh? how about....MC hammer (you know, since the god Thor had a hammer)? =).....no? ok...sorry =)

Thor was also known by the name Asathor.

It doesn't look good in English does it?


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Thor was also known by the name Asathor.

It doesn't look good in English does it?


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What about Odin?

Or Tyr?

Or Frey?

Or...LOKI? He's the ultimate bad as God.

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Or...LOKI? He's the ultimate bad as God.

Sounds good to me. Can we chain him up in a cave if he acts up? (:

I think Hermes fits me best. I only chose Thor because it is my racquetball alter ego (the racquette is my hammer. I know, you are all thinking "Dork." And I plead guilty. My partner calls herself Xena.) Or maybe if there is a god of boring married guys in middle management...?

So maybe I will reapply Under a new name. Although, I haven't seen Thorleiflur anywhere lately. I think you guys scared him off.

Thor wrote, among other things:

Or maybe if there is a god of boring married guys in middle management...?

Personally, I often invoke Marduk, which gets odd looks at meetings as everyone moves away...

Hey Thor, who says YOU get to vote on this?
Don't worry, you can trust us to come up with something that is very dignified and tasteful. Like Red Ruffenthor. Or Flemming Ayniss.

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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter Thompson

Yes, only if there is a snake, dripping poison on his face when his mother has to empty the collection bowl.


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I thought it was Loki's wife that emptied the bowl of poison. Don't tell me that even Norse Mythology is different in Iceland!

Another name for Thor???? Who gives a rat's ass!!! Pick another character from the great pantheon of Marvel Superheroes. I think Sue Storm or Iron Man could whip that hammer jockey two out of three falls...

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Semper Gumby (Always Flexible)

OK, guys, points taken. I guess I must have sat on a broom handle that day. I still think some of you got a little to worked up, but I sure didn't mean to come across like an angry schoolmaster! I still think insults against ethnic groups are out of place anywhere, but looking back, I guess I missed the lightheartedness of most of it. I just don't like to see people chased away--even if they deserve it; I'd rather see them "killed with kindness," to use a cliche. (Not that that's what I usually do. That's just how I think you people should behave. )

PS--I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond. I lost my internet access recently, so I'm having to make do with the computers at the public library for now. (What a dork, I know.) I hope the relevant people are still hanging around to read this.

For a good time, call Thorleifur:

800-BUTT-OF-KID

Sorry, I just couldn't resist!

This was one of the funniest threads I have ever read, IMHO.



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"[He] beat his fist down upon the table and hurt his hand and became so
further enraged... that he beat his fist down upon the table even harder and
hurt his hand some more." -- Joseph Heller's Catch-22

<just to clear things up a bit; do not excuse spellig errors please, they are meant as an insult>

the discussion here seems to have gone from papabears intelligent question about exacly that in iceland to the point where gods are raping sheeps in america (notice the connection later)

if we connect the two together, that is those gods we are talking about and the countries of the world, i take for example 3 countries; iceland, england and amerika.
how do those countries talk about god(no mentinoning in sheeps here anyone?). Lets take england first, they are very modest: "god bless the queen".....no worries then for anybody else then. Iceland: "our god (or gods if you go back to the viking religion) bless our country", pretty selfish yes, but we aren't bothering anybody else. Amerika: "god bless amerika".....im not saying i belive in dog or anything, but according to numerous statistics over 95% of the human race does, and belive me 95% of the human race DOESN'T LIVE IN AMERIKA. (please tell me you could sense a bit of kindness in those words of mine, please...i would hate to think of hoe coming after me with his lightsabre). considering all im saying here tells me that america (95% of the population there anyway) belives in dog and that dog blesses everyone of them, exept for the whitehouse, which explains why it isnt dirty like the rest of the 95%.
......what?? no, i meant thats where dogs outhouse is.

bj0rn

bj0rn----

What??????

I don't know about Iceland, but in the US, "god" and "dog" are not synonyms.

please do not excuse my spelling errors, they are meant as an insult )

An insult to who? You?

If you're going to post in the BBQ Pit, don't go for subtlety.