Blasting music at 8 in the morning?!

[Incubus]

I got to campus half an hour ago, a little bleary eyed because I accidentally woke up an hour early this morning. I figured I'd walk to the library and study/research/go on the Straight Dope since my morning class was canceled. The tranquility of the morning is shattered by the sound of loud rap music being blasted from somewhere. At first I thought it was coming from the coffee shop nearby, but it gradually got louder and louder as I stopped to look for the source.

Suddenly a girl nearly runs me over while zooming by on her bicycle. Seems she had one of those backpacks with a radio/speakers built in, and she was blasting rap music as she biked to class. Many people, myself included, loudly complained about being subjected to loud rap music so early in the morning. It kind of reminded me of people who crank their music way up in their cars and roll down their windows, doing little more than auditory assault against anyone in a three-block radius

[FilmGeek]

Get some fucking headphones, loud rap girl.

[danceswithcats]

[Nitpick]Rap and music are mutually exclusive entities, not to be confused with one another.[/Nitpick]

[Lord Ashtar]

8:00 in the morning is a perfectly reasonable time to be playing loud music. If it's too loud, you're too old. Oh, as for this...

Originally Posted by danceswithcats

[Nitpick]Rap and music are mutually exclusive entities, not to be confused with one another.[/Nitpick]

C'mon now. Don't be hatin'.

[Dead Badger]

Originally Posted by danceswithcats

[Nitpick]Rap and music are mutually exclusive entities, not to be confused with one another.[/Nitpick]

[nitwhackwithalargemallet]Bollocks.[/nwwalm]

[World Eater]

Christ, is it already time again for the rap isn't music argument?

I'll say the same thing I always say, go listen to The Roots.

[Profane]

I'm no rap fan, and even I get aggravated by the "rap ain't music" comments. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that it's an invalid form of music.

And I second what World Eater said about The Roots.

[ultrafilter]

This is totally Incubus's fault. If he'd just mentioned that some girl was blasting music really loud at 8 AM, we could all agree that some people are assholes and just move on. But no, he had to mention it was rap music. Now we get the inevitable trainwreck.

[neuroman]

I don't see how one could bike listening to anything other than classical music.

Also if I were you I'd have thrown an acorn at her. Of course you were probably in too lethargic a state to pull that off.

[Lord Ashtar]

Originally Posted by ultrafilter

This is totally Incubus's fault. If he'd just mentioned that some girl was blasting music really loud at 8 AM, we could all agree that some people are assholes and just move on. But no, he had to mention it was rap music. Now we get the inevitable trainwreck.

Nope, it's danceswithcats's, with her little nitpick.

[Antigen]

At least your music came and left. In the cafeteria this morning, at 8:30, we got ear-splitting techno to accompany our coffee and muffins. I'm not talking background music here. It was like they were about to kill the lights, hand out glow sticks, and fill the room with foam.

So much for getting to school early to study in the quiet caf with my coffee before class.

How can people listen to anything at that volume, so early?

[danceswithcats]

Originally Posted by Lord Ashtar

Nope, it's danceswithcats's, with her little nitpick.

Directs gaze downward, sees same old penis and associated equipment. Raises hand to refute posit of Lord Ashtar.

Boy-O. One little disagreement, and I'm pegged for being a girl. Not even a girly-man. Sure, I've got long hair, but my junk doesn't even look remotely vagina-ish.

[Lord Ashtar]

Originally Posted by danceswithcats

Directs gaze downward, sees same old penis and associated equipment. Raises hand to refute posit of Lord Ashtar.

Boy-O. One little disagreement, and I'm pegged for being a girl. Not even a girly-man. Sure, I've got long hair, but my junk doesn't even look remotely vagina-ish.

Sorry.

[danceswithcats]

Originally Posted by Lord Ashtar

Sorry.

No hurt. No foul. Let the game continue.

[World Eater]

Originally Posted by danceswithcats

No hurt. No foul. Let the game continue.

Traditionally for the argument to continue, you need to ignorantly swear by your claim. Being nice or dropping the subject will not save you.

[danceswithcats]

Originally Posted by World Eater

Traditionally for the argument to continue, you need to ignorantly swear by your claim. Being nice or dropping the subject will not save you.

Alright. I'll oblige you and those in other Pit threads for my hat-trick-of-the-day.

I'd bet the ignorant bitch was a Kerry supporter. After all, Al Gore invented rap. He said so. :wally

Sorry, I forgot to say FUCK

[Smeghead]

There's an 8 in the MORNING now??!

[coffeecat]

Blasting staticky rap music from a badly tuned station early in the morning is one of the many tricks to get the coffeekitten out of bed on school days.

But I only do it inside the house.

[ParentalAdvisory]

What if it was loud classical music?

[Bangiadore]

Yes, well. Not to go too far off topic or anything, but in my neighborhood, the parade of foul-smelling music begins at around 7:30 in the A of the M, and it comes from the vehicles of parents dropping their kids off at school down the street. I am not exaggerating when I say that I sometimes feel the vibration of the bass before I actually hear the music.

One girl on a bike? You're gettin' off easy, bub. Just sayin'.

[danceswithcats]

Originally Posted by ParentalAdvisory

What if it was loud classical music?

It really depend on the piece. For example, Pavane by Gabriel Fauré should be enjoyed softly-it is a tender composition. OTOH, Sinfonia to Cantata by J. S. Bach pratically begs to be played at great volume. Ditto for some of the Brandenburg concerti. Could you get the proper effect of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture if played quietly? Of course not-it sounds best when cranked up, as Boston Pops legendary conductor Arthur Fiedler knew.

[Fuji Kitakyusho]

I have to laugh at the 08:00 or 08:30 is "too early" comments here. Guess what, people - for some of us, life starts before you feel like getting out of bed.

After getting up, having breakfast, getting to the gym, swimming laps, going home, having a shower and getting prepped for work or classes, making a little noise well after the sun has come up does not seem to be such a huge injustice.

Having said that, I do think that you need to be respectful with regard to the amount of noise you make.

[ParentalAdvisory]

Originally Posted by danceswithcats

It really depend on the piece.

I was wondering if the OP would have had a problem with it if it was loud classical music.

[Incubus]

Perhaps it was redundant to say rap music. Because in reality, rap music is the only stuff I hear people playing at extremely loud volumes. What's wrong with using headphones instead of a friggin megaphone strapped to her back? All she was doing was subjecting other people to loud music they were not interested in hearing- a nuisance. Even the coffee shop, which plays jazz music, doesn't blast it at 100 decibels.

To suggest the notion that a person might blast classical music is a amusing at best- like I said before, rap is the only thing I hear being played from speakers 3 blocks away. Perhaps people are blasting classical music, its just all the rap music that is getting blasted is blotting out the classical music.

[CanvasShoes]

The Rap that those who blast music, blast, isn't usually the "good kind" of rap. Not to mention that whatever rap there is in the rap that they are playing usually can't be heard over the bass they've got turned all the way up and enhanced with the "bouncin" systems that they have.

Generally, it's not that it's rap that bugs me, it's the intense house-shaking vibrations. It's like being under assault from large construction equipment. I do find the must-roll-down-my-windows-and-play-my-bass-at-top-volume drivers pretty funny though. It's like they're little boys saying "see how cool I am? See how cool my music is, I MUST share it with everyone so they too can bask in my dubious coolness".

I saw a large window decoration on some kid's SUV, it said "Don't hate me cuz I'm loud". Oh honey, you don't merit more than annoyance, and it's not that you're loud, it's that you seem to think it's desireable to force your taste on everyone around you without their consent.

[Futile Gesture]

Those who play their music loudest in-car or on-street always have the crappest taste in music. It's a universal law. The louder the music the more mass-produced, zero imagination, one dimensional, simplistic pap it is.

It's nature's way of labelling with tin eared dullards so that those with musical taste can avoid them.

[BoBettie]

Reminds me of a guy I worked with doing training. He was already established at his site and had started working before I arrived, so he had his CD player and CDs there. I left to get some coffee and in the middle of the pharmacy I hear "SMACK MY BITCH UP!" Um, no. We had to have a little talk about appropriate music volume (not 11) and appropriate music for work. I basically said "Look, you can smack your bitch up at home all you want- at work stick to stuff with no curse words in it or use headphones." Man, the fact that you even have to tell an adult this is boggling to me.

[ParentalAdvisory]

Originally Posted by CanvasShoes

The Rap that those who blast music, blast, isn't usually the "good kind" of rap.

Why does it have to be Rap Music? I hear rock being blasted all the time. Good songs too. Does that mean, it's not the "good kind" of rock?

It's loud, so it's not the "good kind". lol at this shit.

Look, there is great music... and then there is U2. Just because some idiot is blasting something, doesn't make it bad.

[Tony Montana]

Would you be so annoyed if they were playing Incubus?

Someone had to ask

[CanvasShoes]

Originally Posted by ParentalAdvisory

Why does it have to be Rap Music? I hear rock being blasted all the time. Good songs too. Does that mean, it's not the "good kind" of rock?

It's loud, so it's not the "good kind". lol at this shit.

Look, there is great music... and then there is U2. Just because some idiot is blasting something, doesn't make it bad.

It doesn't. My comment was in answer to those saying "well you haven't listened to 'the roots' etc". My statement means that those who are going around blasting Rap are not playing that sort, commented upon as the "good kind" by defenders. They play the crappy kind.

Generally those blasting rock (though of COURSE as in everything there are exceptions), don't have those electronically enhanced bass systems in their vehicles. So the reasont that "rap" gets picked on is because it, the bad kind is what is most prevelant among those blasting loud too much bass music from their vehicles.

In NO way did my comments mean that other people didn't blast other types of music good or bad.

[ParentalAdvisory]

Ok, I see your point.

Couple of things though.

Originally Posted by CanvasShoes

They play the crappy kind.

That's my point, how do you distinguish what is crappy, and what is not?

Originally Posted by CanvasShoes

Generally those blasting rock (though of COURSE as in everything there are exceptions), don't have those electronically enhanced bass systems in their vehicles.

I do. However, I respect residential roads. I blast my music on the highway, where most of my driving time is spent.

Originally Posted by CanvasShoes

So the reasont that "rap" gets picked on is because it, the bad kind is what is most prevelant among those blasting loud too much bass music from their vehicles.

The "too much bass" is really coming from big speakers and amps, as well as bass settings. This really has nothing to do with the songs themselves. Sure, some rap has more bass then others, but this is really up to the person listening to the music, as well as speaker setups and equilization settings. So to say that certain rap is "bad" because the bass is loud is rediculous. So for instance, if you say that Lil Jon is bad because 9 out of 10 punks play it with loud with heavy bass. Blame the punks, not the music. Now if you wanna debate their music style and lyrical content, that's another debate. But to say that it's bad outright because of kids blasting it at intersections, well, I just don't buy it.

[ParentalAdvisory]

*Equalization
*Ridiculous

[Rubystreak]

I generally like rap music, but I cannot listen to Dr. Dre to this day because of the neighbors who used to blast it at 8 in the morning, daily. That Casio-tronic sound is like a dentist's drill to my brain to this day. However, I feel the same way about lawnmowers, dogs barking, and the revving of race cars due to the insensitivity of other neighbors' noise, so let's not single out rap music here. Loud noise in the early morning is just inexcusably rude.

[ruadh]

Originally Posted by Bangiadore

Yes, well. Not to go too far off topic or anything, but in my neighborhood, the parade of foul-smelling music begins at around 7:30 in the A of the M, and it comes from the vehicles of parents dropping their kids off at school down the street. I am not exaggerating when I say that I sometimes feel the vibration of the bass before I actually hear the music.

Consider yourself lucky. I have my sleep disturbed every Sunday morning around 6 a.m. by the BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM of the bass coming from the rave music my neighbours play at their weekly parties

[Bangiadore]

ruadh, thank you for putting my perspective into perspective for me. While it's fairly annoying to be assaulted by hip-hop every weekday morning, there is little that could be more irritating than the unwanted basslines of rave music. I used to live with a guy who listened to nothing but house music, ever. Even way off in another part of the house, the monotonous bass could drive me berzonkers.

My sympathies.