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#1
10-22-2004, 09:27 AM
 Gaudere Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 6,107
My friend has won his weight in beer. How much beer is that?

Last night my friend Joel won this promotional thing for Goose Island's new beer and won "his weight in beer". Goose Island only comes in bottles, and Joel weighs, oh, about 165 pounds. How much beer will he get?
#2
10-22-2004, 09:35 AM
 Mangetout Charter Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Kingdom of Butter Posts: 47,666
It's a pretty good approximation to say that the human body is roughly the same density as water - people sort of sink, sort of float, don't they? - on average the extra density of the bones is pretty much made up for by the body fat.

So your friend weighs 165 pounds, so that should win him about 165 pints, in America.
#3
10-22-2004, 09:39 AM
 burundi Guest Join Date: Dec 2000
A bartender friend of mine recently told me that an average keg weighs 120 pounds. Don't know how that translates into bottles, though.

#4
10-22-2004, 09:43 AM
 jjimm Guest Join Date: Jul 2001
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Mangetout It's a pretty good approximation to say that the human body is roughly the same density as water
Surely that would only be relevant if he'd won his volume in beer? The relative denisty only matters between water and beer, rather than Joel, since we are more likely to know what water weighs.

In metricity, 165 lbs = 74.84 kg, and 1 kg is 1 litre, so that's ~75 litres, which is enough to get you nicely drunk every night for about 3 weeks.
#5
10-22-2004, 09:46 AM
 Garfield226 Guest Join Date: Jun 1999
Assuming that beer has about the same density as water (1 g/cm3),

165 pounds is 74.842 kilograms (I think), and that many kilograms works out to 19.77 gallons, which works out to 2530.7 fluid ounces, which works out to about 211-12 oz. bottles.

I probably screwed up someplace, but maybe not.
#6
10-22-2004, 09:50 AM
 TastesLikeBurning Guest Join Date: Jun 2004
How clearly defined is the prize?

Will he actually win his weight in beer, or will he win his weight in beer bottles filled with beer?

The winning of beer is not something to be taken lightly.
#7
10-22-2004, 09:51 AM
 Mangetout Charter Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Kingdom of Butter Posts: 47,666
Quote:
 Originally Posted by jjimm Surely that would only be relevant if he'd won his volume in beer? The relative denisty only matters between water and beer, rather than Joel, since we are more likely to know what water weighs.
I see what you mean; whether he is of equal density to water is moot; he could be a tiny 165-pound iridium robot, or a huge, 165-pound, gas-filled balloon monster and he would still have won the same amount of beer.
#8
10-22-2004, 10:02 AM
 Gest Guest Join Date: Mar 2003
I worked it out to a tad under 211 bottles but it gets better. Beer has a specific gravity of 1.02 - 1.12 so let's split the difference and peg this mystery beer at 1.09. That would give you 229 bottles of beer on the wall. The problem is that a litre only equals a kilogram at a little under 4șC (where it's most dense) but those specific gravity values are based on water at 15șC. I'm not sure how much this puts my revised figure out. Shouldn't be far off though.
#9
10-22-2004, 10:04 AM
 Gest Guest Join Date: Mar 2003
Make that 1.02 - 1.16.
#10
10-22-2004, 10:05 AM
 pulykamell Charter Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: SW Side, Chicago Posts: 25,603
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Garfield226 Assuming that beer has about the same density as water (1 g/cm3), 165 pounds is 74.842 kilograms (I think), and that many kilograms works out to 19.77 gallons, which works out to 2530.7 fluid ounces, which works out to about 211-12 oz. bottles. I probably screwed up someplace, but maybe not.
I think you're fine. I get 19.771693 US Gallons as well, which converts to 210.898 12 oz bottles.
#11
10-22-2004, 10:19 AM
 Gaudere Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 6,107
Quote:
 Will he actually win his weight in beer, or will he win his weight in beer bottles filled with beer?
I suspect that, in the interests of cheapness and ease of weighing, that the brewery will count the weight of the bottles and packaging in the "weight" of the beer.
#12
10-22-2004, 10:22 AM
 Spoons Charter Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 9,122
Quote:
 Originally Posted by TastesLikeBurning Will he actually win his weight in beer, or will he win his weight in beer bottles filled with beer?
If he wins the bottles filled with beer, then (if I recall my days throwing cases of beer around a brewer's warehouse correctly), a case of 24 standard bottles filled with beer weighs approximately 34 pounds. So if he weighs 165 pounds, he should get about 4 cases and 20 bottles (that is, 116 bottles). Though if I was the brewer, I'd just say five cases, to allow for the approximation.

If it is just beer--that is, the weight is not supposed to include bottles or cases--then it would likely be over 200 bottles, as the others said.
#13
10-22-2004, 10:27 AM
 Gest Guest Join Date: Mar 2003
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Gaudere I suspect that, in the interests of cheapness and ease of weighing, that the brewery will count the weight of the bottles and packaging in the "weight" of the beer.
Well that would make them cheap bastards then. The brewery will have an exact idea of the properties of their beer. A twelve year old with that information and a calculator could save them the expense of having somebody actually weighing cases and just dole them out with a few remainder bottles to fill out the weight.
#14
10-22-2004, 04:32 PM
 Doctor Jackson Guest Join Date: Mar 1999
My figures worked out to 211.25 twelve ounce bottles of beer. What I want to know is if your buddy is gonna finish that bottle that the factory rep drank 3/4 of.
#15
10-22-2004, 04:35 PM
 Munch Guest Join Date: Mar 2000
Was it some sort of online deal? If so, what needs to happen is for you to find the largest person you can to claim the prize. You don't want some 78 lb. gymnast, you want some 320 lb. sausage inspector.
#16
10-22-2004, 04:46 PM
 Shirley Ujest Guest Join Date: May 1999
Why don't they have Story Problems like this in school today?
#17
10-22-2004, 05:21 PM
 Tapioca Dextrin Charter Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Staring blankly at my GPS Posts: 10,839
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Shirley Ujest Why don't they have Story Problems like this in school today?
You're not suggesting this a homework question are you?
#18
10-22-2004, 06:21 PM
 Manduck Guest Join Date: May 1999
A pint weighs a pound. A bottle of beer is 3/4 of a pint. So 165 pound is 165 bottles is 220 bottles.
#19
10-22-2004, 06:22 PM
 Manduck Guest Join Date: May 1999
It's too bad there's not some sort of "preview post" button to catch mistakes before they go out there.

165 pounds = 165 pints = 220 bottles
#20
10-25-2004, 02:43 PM
 Gaudere Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 6,107
Update: the brewer gave him 7 cases, or 168 bottles. They counted the weight of the bottles and rounded up--he actually weighed 6.5 cases. And Joel was heavier than 165, too (I wasn't about to ask how much he weighed before, but it's 195).
#21
10-25-2004, 03:09 PM
 JohnDM BANNED Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 9
One cubic foot of a tasty beer weighs 68 pounds or 4 serpents at 17, the cobra that is.

And so 165 pounds is some 121 pints of beer.

Mmm
#22
10-25-2004, 03:17 PM
 Chairman Pow Guest Join Date: Dec 2003
Quote:
 Originally Posted by JohnDM One cubic foot of a tasty beer weighs 68 pounds or 4 serpents at 17, the cobra that is. And so 165 pounds is some 121 pints of beer. Mmm
Isn't King Cobra a malt liquor and not a beer?
#23
10-25-2004, 03:30 PM
 JohnDM BANNED Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 9
Silly me.

And yes I have two Danish lagers and half bottle of red wine this evening.

So I can blame this on my nonsense numbers.

PS

I have had one appartion at 2:30am May 16th 1983 where I was shown geometry by way of special tents in the other set of four dimensions, the place most go at death.

And then there were two other strange number happenings.

And also I was 'told' in my mind in late November 2002 to see the Ring of Fire on February 1st 2003, and down came the orbiter shuttle Columbia through fire.

Phew!
#24
10-25-2004, 05:22 PM
 Mr. Blue Sky Guest Join Date: May 1999
Quote:
 Originally Posted by JohnDM I have had one appartion at 2:30am May 16th 1983 where I was shown geometry by way of special tents in the other set of four dimensions, the place most go at death.
Was it the same kind of tents they used to cover houses when they fumigate for bugs?

That would explain a lot.
#25
10-25-2004, 05:25 PM
 Tapioca Dextrin Charter Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Staring blankly at my GPS Posts: 10,839
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Gaudere They counted the weight of the bottles and rounded up--he actually weighed 6.5 cases.
He should have insisted on beer in plastic bottles - always a sure indicator of qulaity
. Anyhoo, where's the party?
#26
10-25-2004, 05:26 PM
 rocking chair Guest Join Date: Jun 2000
the rhyme is:

a pint is a pound the world around.
#27
10-25-2004, 05:34 PM
 jjimm Guest Join Date: Jul 2001
Quote:
 Originally Posted by rocking chair the rhyme is: a pint is a pound the world around.
And a kilo's a liter.
Which I think is neater.
#28
10-25-2004, 05:48 PM
 Derleth Guest Join Date: Apr 2000
Quote:
 Originally Posted by jjimm And a kilo's a liter. Which I think is neater.
Not exactly.
Quote:
 Originally Posted by my cite The kilogram is defined as the mass of the standard kilogram, a platinum-iridium bar in the custody of the International Bureau of Weights and Measures (BIPM) near Paris, France. Copies of this bar are kept by the standards agencies of all the major industrial nations, including the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). One kilogram equals exactly 1000 grams, or about 2.204 622 6 pounds. By design, this is approximately the mass of a liter of water.
Note the last sentence: They defined the kilogram to make it roughly equal in mass to a liter of water at STP, but it is not defined to be exactly thus. Presumably because measuring the mass of a liter of water at STP isn't as accurate, with our tools, as you need a definition to be under real laboratory conditions.

I doubt a pint of water at STP is overly close to massing one pound, either. (And, yes, the pound is a unit of mass. The unit of force is the poundal.)
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#29
10-25-2004, 06:16 PM
 jjimm Guest Join Date: Jul 2001
Don't ruin my trite doggerel with resort to the truth and facts, goddamnit.
#30
10-25-2004, 07:39 PM
 Chairman Pow Guest Join Date: Dec 2003
Derleth, this is the kind of talk that only encourages people like JohnDM.

Oh wait, he's banned.
#31
10-25-2004, 07:44 PM
 Derleth Guest Join Date: Apr 2000
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#32
10-25-2004, 09:36 PM
 Una Persson Straight Dope Science Advisory Board Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: On the dance floor. Posts: 14,284
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Derleth I doubt a pint of water at STP is overly close to massing one pound, either. (And, yes, the pound is a unit of mass. The unit of force is the poundal.)
And a pint is quite different in the UK and Ireland versus the US.
#33
10-25-2004, 10:33 PM
 asterion 2012 SDMB NFL Salary Cap Champ Charter Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Guilderland, NY Posts: 9,390
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Chairman Pow Derleth, this is the kind of talk that only encourages people like JohnDM. Oh wait, he's banned.
Of course, the funny thing is that this is the one thread where all his crap about numbers and numerology was actually somewhat appropriate.

So, how many cases of beer would it take to build a replica of the Great Pyramid, and how much would it weigh?
#34
10-26-2004, 03:35 AM
 1010011010 Guest Join Date: Jun 1999
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Derleth I doubt a pint of water at STP is overly close to massing one pound, either. (And, yes, the pound is a unit of mass. The unit of force is the poundal.)
The slug is the unit of mass.
#35
10-26-2004, 04:03 AM
 wolfman Guest Join Date: Mar 2000
Quote:
 So, how many cases of beer would it take to build a replica of the Great Pyramid,
Well, from experience, me and a three friends build a 5 foot dirt pyramid after 4 and a half cases, but if you want the great pyramid your gonna need a hell of a lot more beer than that.
#36
10-26-2004, 02:08 PM
 Derleth Guest Join Date: Apr 2000
Quote:
 Originally Posted by 1010011010 The slug is the unit of mass.
You're right. Pound and poundal are both weight, slug is mass.

(If this is the true definition, I've found a bug in the standard Linux units utility: It defines the pound in terms of kilograms, a unit of mass, and the poundal in terms of kg m / s^2, obviously a unit of weight. The slug is defined in terms of lbf s^2 / ft, again a unit of weight. I want to be a bit more sure before I make the changes and report this, however.)
#37
10-26-2004, 02:10 PM
 Derleth Guest Join Date: Apr 2000
Bah. I messed up: The slug is obviously (in the units programs' mind) not a unit of weight.

Damn.
#38
10-26-2004, 03:32 PM
 Una Persson Straight Dope Science Advisory Board Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: On the dance floor. Posts: 14,284
Umm...guys, there's pound-mass and pound-force (lbm and lbf), used in everyday engineering calculations to signify mass and force. (And I do use them every day...I'm using them right now in another window.)

http://www.me.utexas.edu/~thermonet/..._1/1_5_p1.html

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Pound.html

This has been posted about many times before, IIRC.
#39
10-26-2004, 03:41 PM
 hibernicus Charter Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,783
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Una Persson And a pint is quite different in the UK and Ireland versus the US.
That's right. The rhyme over here is "a pint of clear water weighs a pound and a quarter". An imperial pint is 20 fl oz.
#40
10-26-2004, 03:44 PM
 Larry Mudd Charter Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ass end of Alberta Posts: 17,886
Quote:
 Originally Posted by 1010011010 The slug is the unit of mass.
If you bury a pint jar of beer up to its mouth in your garden, you won't have to worry about slugs at all.

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