While rereading some old threads on the subject, I ran across the GOGIATI and Moir-Jessel tests. My results were: COGIATI level 4 (probable “late onset” TS); Moir-Jessel 60 (outside the range for a “normal” male). I know there is some disagreement about whether the COGIATI should be trusted but both tests pretty much told me what I had already suspected for a while now.
The site recommended seeking counselling (can’t afford that by a long shot) and trying out living as a woman which I’d like to do but is next to impossible in this rather conservative RV park.
My apologies if this has already been discussed, but I didn’t have time to do an exhaustive search. I did find this thread though, which raises another concern since I definitely prefer women.
Suggestions, anyone?
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Forgive me for prying, but I am unfamiliar with the tests you took. Apparently, you feel that you are or may be transsexual, but are more attracted to women than to men?
Disclaimer: I really know nothing about all of this.
But if the problem is the RV park in which you live, maybe you could try it out for a night or two OUT? Any urban areas around you where you could blend in?
Yes, I have heard that it is quite common to be attracted to women. And no, I don’t consider that prying.
Well, if I understand the meaning of the term (and I probably don’t) then no, because for me it isn’t about women’s clothing. I prefer androgynous clothes (jeans/T-shirts/sweats), but with the expression of the person underneath I sometimes have difficulty acting masculine.
In reference to the RV park, I hadn’t considered the safety angle :smack: but the managers and the other tenants would want to know who this “other” person is and if they found out, I might be forced to leave. (It’s mostly old folks and there’s not much privacy.)
I’ve only been in Las Vegas for a couple weeks and don’t really know my way around yet, but will have to look into your suggestion, LaurAnge. Maybe the LV strip would be a good place, if it is safe enough.
First of all, don’t take the COGIATI seriously. It’s not a validated test and is strongly weighted toward a conclusion of transsexuality. It’s mainly a test of gender stereotyping. I’m not familiar with Moir-Jessel.
Las Vegas has a large transgender population and finding a support group should not be hard. If you want, email or IM me (see my profile) and I’ll get you in touch with some trans friends of mine who do an annual pilgrimage to LV; I’m sure they know someone there. If you want to spend some time out without your neighbors finding out, consider going to a trusted friend’s house to change first, or renting a hotel room for the same purpose, preferably in a different part of town or another town. Find a support group that makes outings and take advantage of that.
Don’t be concerned about being more attracted to women than to men; this does not mean that you are or are not transsexual. A lot of transsexuals (me included) eventually discover that they’re lesbians. Others who originally thought they were lesbians discovered an attraction for men as they transition. Which way you’ll go is hard to predict, and it’s best to have an open mind on this issue.
Counselling isn’t always as expensive as you might otherwise think; there are quite a few people who do GID counselling who work on a sliding scale. And support groups are often free.
I have a friend that is male and a cross dresser. He comes to my house clear across town to learn to walk in heels, put on make up and dress as a woman. I go out frequently with him dressed as a woman and he feels more comfortable doing it here because noone knows him. Anonymity is VERY important to him because of his job.
I suggest you find a support group and find like minded people to help you. Make sure you don’t rush into anything that may be dangerous and ALWAYS have a way out of any situation.
Thank you everyone for your sympathetic replies, especially KellyM.
Except there’s already a Citygirl852 so that could be confusing. When I picked my username, I thought that a “boy” was anybody born with male parts. Now that I know otherwise, I’ve been trying to think of a good username that isn’t too similar to somebody else’s. But, since it has already been changed once, I might have to join the misleading username club along with EddyTeddyFreddy and Ilsa_Lund.
Interesting. I don’t specifically identify as transsexual but I’ve known for more than half a lifetime that I’m sort of a variation on that. I don’t really crave to be biologically female (although it would be fun to try it for 3-5 years) but if there were a world where the sex roles and gendered assumptions and so forth were exactly mirror-image, and I could get a ticket, it would be a one-way and I’d sell everything I own to buy it.
I don’t think I’ve ever taken the COGIATI. I looked at it this evening and realized about halfway down that it’s inappropriate for anyone post-transition.
Whatever else you do, do not try to trim your eyebrows with an unshielded electric razor. You could end up with the middle part of your eyebrow bare, the horizontal middle third, completely bare. Imagine racing stripes in your eyebrows! :eek:
Sally Hansen Wax can be used to shape the eyebrow can be helpful should you feel the need. It is a bit like packing tape and does a good job.
Your linky-link wasn’t working when I tried to take the COGIATI test, but I did take the SAGE, which is apparently a COGIATI deriviative. I definitely see what Kelly was talking about with the gender stereotyping.
My results:
Your Raw Score is: 395, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Feminine
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.
You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.
ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser
NOTES:
Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.
You are in a statistical minority as a anallophilic crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the undirected nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Male gender role.
There are only three accurate bits in all of this: my appearance is feminine, I was born female, and I’ve been this way since childhood. The rest of it’s crap. I’m just a boobilicious natal woman who likes circular saws as well as she likes sewing circles, who isn’t aroused by breastfeeding articles, tampon commercials, or power tools.
That’s the sort of thing I was referring to. I “lose” a lot of points on those sorts of tests because I can do car maintenance, like to use power tools, and am totally uninterested in tampon commercials. None of these things is an indicator of innate feminity; rather, they’re an indicator of how much the subject craves to be or appear feminine.
cityboy916 , if you determine that you are transgendered, then by all means, you should pursue whatever makes you feel “right” in your own skin. We all should have that and I wish you the best.
However, it has always seemed to me that the most interesting and attractive people I have met are that way because they are comfortable with their masculine and feminine sides, which we all have.
Have you considered that maybe you are just a good catch?
Totally agree. I took the test (female and not unhappy about it) and got “male” results. I don’t think being uncomfortable when people cry and not liking hugs from complete strangers are exclusively masculine traits…
When I picked my username, I thought that a “boy” was anybody born with male parts. Now that I know otherwise, I’ve been trying to think of a good username that isn’t too similar to somebody else’s. But, since it has already been changed once, I might have to join the misleading username club along with EddyTeddyFreddy and Ilsa_Lund. 