Ask the ex phone sex operator

[Shirley Ujest]

Every have anybody famous call you?

[Ellis Dee]

Originally Posted by norinew

if a customer asked when I lost my virginity, the answer had to be 18 or over

As opposed to every woman ever interviewed by Howard Stern.

[tryout1]

You said that your supervisors occasionally monitored your calls. Were the calls ever taped, perhaps to protect yourselves against false accusations that you had suggested or promoted something illegal?

Did the men generally understand that they were paying a stranger to play a role, or did they really think that they were connecting with the 19-year-old Barbi doll that they had asked the operator for?

How elaborate were the fantasy conversations? Was it mostly "oh, that feels good baby," or did you ever get someone who said something like, "Look, pretend I'm the Prince and you're Guinevere and you're locked in a tiny cell at the top of a stone tower and you've promised to give yourself to any man who can rescue you and I'm swinging my trusty two-handed broadsword through thorny hedges as the sheriff's wolfhounds nip at my heels.." .etc. ?

Also, would you like to assess the average male caller's knowledge and misconceptions about what women enjoy?

[Eleusis]

Originally Posted by norinew

There might have been stranger (all my notes are in storage right now), but these are the two that come to mind.

Boring! The phonesluts I've met at bars always tell the "Oh yes, shit on me, Jesus" story.

[shijinn]

Originally Posted by norinew

... Yeah, he knows the pics were a model; I've never sent him real pics of myself, but he does a lot of high security kind of work, and knows lots of folks. My guess is that if he really wanted to find out what I look like, he would. He's never talked about a real meeting in person (for now) because he knows I'm totally devoted to my husband and would never cheat on him (not only does he know I'm married, but recognizes my husband's voice and both of my older daughter's voices on the phone, and is very cordial to them). He has said, however, that if anything ever happens to my husband, he hopes I would consider him an option. Hey, the dude has a 9,000 sq. ft. house in Tampa and a yacht; a girl could do worse . He's not bad looking, either.
MY husband is cool with the relationship because, for one thing, it pays well; for another thing, he trusts me 100%. ...

ok. let us get paranoid for a moment. we have a guy from an uncertain background who spends a hundred dollars per hour on sex calls doing some sort of high security kind of work who knows lots of folks in interesting places.. your husband have no reason not to trust you, but the guy on the other hand..

[Dung Beetle]

Thanks, norinew!
Did you ever have days when you just dreaded working? You know, like the rest of us do? Except in your case, it'd be worse because you still have to seem enthusiastic.
I'm having one of those days right now, so I plan to sit around today and make a lot of wet pussy noises.

[norinew]

Wow. For some reason, I didn't get notification about any of these replies until just now; I haven't been ignoring you (but now that you know I used to lie for money, can you ever trust me again. . . ). I'll try to answer some of these while I have a bit of time.

Originally Posted by faithfool

But did any of it ever feel degrading or was the idea of 'acting' overriding any distasteful thoughts? I'm assuming, along with the rape fantasies, it would be up to your discrestion on what kinds of conversations to follow through. Along that thinking, was there ever desires to discuss necrophilia from your clients? Or other activities that would be illegal? Like climaxing during a murder or something.

Well, we didn't have a lot of discretion, no. We didn't do "minors" and we didn't have to do rape; just about everything else, we had to do. Yeah, there could be factors (like if one of our guys threatened to find us and hurt us, or something). Some of it was distasteful, yeah; I just had to keep telling myself "It's just an act; it's just an act." Fortunately, I never talked to a necrophilac. Ewww.

attitudes like the above would scare the crap out of me and make me hesitate to even try it, let alone continue if I encountered such. The flip side is though, I suppose if they were *just* talking about it, it perhaps could prevent the need for any action. I'd hope. What do you think?

Well, it's more than "if they're talking about it to me, at least they're not really doing it". See, I have some very heavy S&M fantasies (hey, if I'm gonna bare my soul, I may as well go for it, no?), but what I want in reality is a lot more lightweight. Sexual fantasies are that way a lot. I pretty much assumed my callers were the same way. They wanted to talk about a lot of stuff they didn't necessarily want to do.

Originally Posted by RTFirefly

Care to give us a breakdown of the topics of the 25% of calls that weren't straight S&F calls? Past those basics, what stuff did you encounter the most?

(Boy, next time you hug me at a DopeFest, am I gonna feel weird or what?) By far the most popular after straight S&F was the "two girls" fantasy. Guys wanted to hear about me having sex with other girls. My RL experience in this is very limited, but I did read a lot, and I am a pretty good actress and fairly imaginative. Next in line would have to be guys who wanted me to tell them a new way to jack off. Tres frustrating! I mean, how many ways are there? Then there were the animal lovers, the subs who wanted to be dominated, and, occasionally, the dom who wanted me to sub.

Originally Posted by Shirly Ujest

Every have anybody famous call you?

Well, to the best of my knowledge, the closest to that is the guy who is still around; not a name you would probably recognize, but he did sing with a moderately popular pop band in the '60s, and has been working on some new electronic security equipment that he's been on a couple of the home shopping cahnnels hawking. That's how I've seen him on TV.

Originally Posted by tryout1

You said that your supervisors occasionally monitored your calls. Were the calls ever taped, perhaps to protect yourselves against false accusations that you had suggested or promoted something illegal?

To the best of my knowledge, the only calls that were taped were "training calls"; every month, the office featured a new training call that the girls could call and listen to and get tips from. A number of my calls were turned into training calls, because I was pretty good. But it wouldn't really surprise me if more calls were recorded.

Did the men generally understand that they were paying a stranger to play a role, or did they really think that they were connecting with the 19-year-old Barbi doll that they had asked the operator for?

Well, you know, it's fantasy; I think most of them were bright enough to understand that. I mean, when you watch Forrest Gump, you know Tom Hanks doesn't have an IQ of 70, but you wanna believe in the fantasy, and he's good at it, so you do believe. Does that make sense?

How elaborate were the fantasy conversations? Was it mostly "oh, that feels good baby," or did you ever get someone who said something like, "Look, pretend I'm the Prince and you're Guinevere and you're locked in a tiny cell at the top of a stone tower and you've promised to give yourself to any man who can rescue you and I'm swinging my trusty two-handed broadsword through thorny hedges as the sheriff's wolfhounds nip at my heels.." .etc. ?

I'd say that aside from a very rough idea, about 85% of them wanted me to construct a fantasy. In fact, a few of them wanted to give me no idea of what they were wanting, and I'd try a few things and they'd be like "No, this isn't doing it" but their attitude was "You're getting paid to serve me, so I shouldn't have to tell you". I handled them by telling them (playfully, so as not to piss them off) that they must have confused my number with the psychic hotline. That usually got through to them. Another 10% got fairly specific from the start, or would lead me as we played. Another 5% would lay it out pretty much as you described above, down to the last detail; I had to take lots of notes on those!

Also, would you like to assess the average male caller's knowledge and misconceptions about what women enjoy?

Well, I dunno about misconceptions. Most of them wanted me to get off on whatever they wanted to do (and I did, I did! ), but I'm not sure that IRL, these guys thought that a real woman would get off on this stuff. They hired me to play a roll, and I played it. They may well have been more sensitive, responsive, whatever, with their life partners. I did have a few guys who would as me what I like, and then try to incorporate that, because it was important to them that I enjoy myself.

Originally Posted by shijinn

ok. let us get paranoid for a moment. we have a guy from an uncertain background who spends a hundred dollars per hour on sex calls doing some sort of high security kind of work who knows lots of folks in interesting places.. your husband have no reason not to trust you, but the guy on the other hand..

Well, hubby's got pretty good instincts about folks, and has had fairly lengthy techie conversations with this guy. Plus there's the fact that he and I have known each other (on the phone) for more than ten years. And he's had my home addy for the past seven years. So we're all guessing that if nothing horrible has happened by now, it won't. No, hubby and I both trust the guy, too.

Originally Posted by Dung Beetle

Did you ever have days when you just dreaded working? You know, like the rest of us do? Except in your case, it'd be worse because you still have to seem enthusiastic.

Oh, God, yes! (now just imagine me breathing heavy and screaming that ). When I hadn't had enough sleep, when I was PMSing, whatever. Sometimes I'd think "If I have to fake one more orgasm I'm gonna snap!" But I got through it.

[KidCharlemagne]

- How many calls did you typically get over a shift?

- What was the interview call like? What was the "training" like? Were you given a list of alternates for "cock," "jizz," pussy," etc. for a little variety?

Are there men who do this for women?

[norinew]

Originally Posted by KidCharlemagne

- How many calls did you typically get over a shift?

Over an eight-hour shift, probably an average of twelve.

-

What was the interview call like?

On the interview call, they put us through to a real live customer and listened to what we did and got a feel for whether we were cut out for the work or not. I dunno if the customer got any special consideration.

What was the "training" like? Were you given a list of alternates for "cock," "jizz," pussy," etc. for a little variety?

Before our audition call, we "eavesdropped" on a couple of other calls, and listened to some training tapes; coming up with synonyms was left strictly up to us. But you got a feel (heh) with your regulars, what terms they like (some prefer pussy, some cunt; some prefer dick, some cock). The essence of sales (and like all acting, this was a sales job), it was "give the customer what they want".

Are there men who do this for women?

Well, as I think I've mentioned previously (what, you didn't read every single word I've typed? On your knees, worm! sorry, flashback, y'know), there were a few guys at the service, but I don't think there's a big demand for that side of the coin. There may or may not have been phone sex services whose specialty this was; if so, I'm not aware of it.

[Kricket]

I knew there was more than one reason why we get along so well!
I have never done it, but actually toyed around with the idea for a while. A few years ago my roommate and I were considering putting in a second phone line for it but for some reason we didn't. Now I actually think I would have enjoyed it.
(does that sound odd?)
Heck once when I held a short job doing phone questionaires I had a guy ask me to marry him on my voice alone!
When I was working as a receptionist I had a guy who normally wouldn't do pick-ups come in and pick up the repaired phone just to see what I looked like. He usually didn't answer the phone and he and the other guy were wondering if I looked anything as hot as what my voice sounded.
From then on it would be an arguement over who got to answer my phone calls, phone something in, or come and pick it up as opposed to me sending it out via mail.

A quick question though, do you think the phone business is still making money since internet porn is at peoples finger tips more now then it was when you were in the business?
And do you keep in touch with any of the people you used to work with?
Oh, and did you ever get to discuss phone conversations with co-workers? Like "OMG you wouldn't believe they guy I just talked to?" Or was it pretty much a solitary job? I know you said you had an award/recognition ceremony once, but I'm talking about getting along with them like they were co-workers and not just "yeah, we work at the same company"

[dropzone]

Originally Posted by norinew

Ever get pissed off? Not too much.

On the other hand, I believe we know the answer to the converse of that question.

"Thanks, Mayor Simpson. Because of you, we're all taking golden showers." -- Kent Brockman

[Shodan]

Originally Posted by norinew

Fortunately, I never talked to a necrophilac. Ewww.

It occurs to me that a phone call for someone who wanted to experience necrophilia would be fairly easy to do. After all, what could you say?

Or perhaps you could simply not answer the phone, and the client could do everything himself.

Or perhaps:

You: "So, how you doing tonight?"

Kinky Client: "Fine - I like necrophilia."

You: "I think - I'm having - (gasps) - a HEART ATTACK!" drops phone

And the client can carry on from there.

You mentioned a client who wanted sex with dogs. Did he want you to bark? Or did you still have to talk?

This is an interesting thread. Strange, but interesting.

Regards,
Shodan

[5que]

Originally Posted by norinew

Fortunately, I never talked to a necrophilac. Ewww.

Uh, wouldn't that mean that you couldn't talk at all? The talking corpse seems a bit, well, unrealistic.

You could just say "I'm dead now. Tell me when you're done" and then go off and do your nails.

[5que]

Wow, Shodan, great i.e., perverted minds think alike!

[norinew]

Originally Posted by Kricket

A quick question though, do you think the phone business is still making money since internet porn is at peoples finger tips more now then it was when you were in the business?

I think the phone sex business has probably fallen off a lot since the 'net has gotten so popular. It's been replaced with real time chat and such, IMHO.

And do you keep in touch with any of the people you used to work with?

No, but when I heard that my all-time-favorite transfer operator died of AIDS a few years ago, it did sadden me; she was so sweet!

Oh, and did you ever get to discuss phone conversations with co-workers? Like "OMG you wouldn't believe they guy I just talked to?" Or was it pretty much a solitary job? I know you said you had an award/recognition ceremony once, but I'm talking about getting along with them like they were co-workers and not just "yeah, we work at the same company"

Well, at our yearly get-togethers, this pretty much was the topic of conversation! We barely knew each other, after all, and this was the one thing we had in common. In fact, I specifically remember one of the ladies whose specialty was domination, would talk to a sub for about ten minutes, and then command that he get out a different credit card and call her back! She told us that she played one guy for this for five calls one night!

Originally Posted by Shodan

You mentioned a client who wanted sex with dogs. Did he want you to bark? Or did you still have to talk?

No, he didn't want me to be a dog, he wanted me to tell him about all the times I'd had sex with dogs (ewww). But hey, a paycheck's a paycheck, right?

Shodan and 5que, y'all's twisted!

[norinew]

The current Threadspotting thread reminded me of a funny experience back in my phone sex days: on one of my nights off, the phone rang at, like, 3AM. I pick it up and the convo goes like this:
Me: (blurry)hello?

Him: I wanna lick your pussy.

Me: what?

Him: I wanna lick your pussy.

Me: Hey, if you wanna talk to me like that, you're gonna have to pay twenty five bucks like everyone else.

Click.

I've no idea what the caller ever made of that call, but it still amuses me.

[Cervaise]

Originally Posted by norinew

Next in line would have to be guys who wanted me to tell them a new way to jack off. Tres frustrating! I mean, how many ways are there?

You'd be surprised. Either your husband lacks imagination or he isn't telling you everything.

I keed, I keed

[norinew]

Originally Posted by Cervaise

You'd be surprised. Either your husband lacks imagination or he isn't telling you everything.

I keed, I keed

Hey, how do you know my husband?

[Shodan]

Originally Posted by norinew

Shodan and 5que, y'all's twisted!

You're just mad you didn't think of it. Think of the money you could have made specializing in necrophiles.

But, weren't you ever tempted to prank the callers? One of the funniest things I ever read in the old Spy magazine was them calling up phone-sex operators, and asking them all these deep philosophical questions, and recording the responses.

But another question if I might - did they usually want to talk to you, or did you usually do most of the talking? And did you ever consider recording a tape and just playing it?

Anyway, thanks for your response. Now I am off to rub my teeth and play dead.

Woof!

Regards,
Shodan

[badmana]

This is really a facinating thread. I once partook in "phone sex" with a women/girl I met online in my youth (I was 18 and she was 16 and that's perfectly LEGAL in Ontario ) I can't see myself paying for it though!

Anyways (ahem), my question:

You mentioned that participating in rape fantasies were up to you. Did you ever accept a call regarding this particular dark fantasy? Was it similar to a Sub role when a Dom would call or was is...different...somehow?

Of course it's all acting and I personally can't see how this could be "acted" properly over the phone but did you see it as a Sub "role" and go along with it as long as it didn't get too violent (swearing or verbally abusive)? Or would a caller call only to have you relate a story about rape? Did any callers ask specifically about something like incest?



And just out of curiosity what was the ratio of white/black/asian men who called (that you could determine) and what kind of social "level" would you say they belonged to? (Middle class average guy vs old rich men or horney 18 year olds?).

[norinew]

Originally Posted by Shodan

weren't you ever tempted to prank the callers? One of the funniest things I ever read in the old Spy magazine was them calling up phone-sex operators, and asking them all these deep philosophical questions, and recording the responses.

Well, I might have been tempted to screw with them a little bit, in a non-sexual way, but the idea that any call might be monitored and I wouldn't know it pretty much kept me in line. It was a pretty good gig, and I didn't want to lose it.

But another question if I might - did they usually want to talk to you, or did you usually do most of the talking? And did you ever consider recording a tape and just playing it?

Most of them were pretty chatty, in terms of a give-and-take conversation; I suspect that if they wanted something less interactive they would have just jerked off with a porn mag or some such. The recording a tape and just playing it, again, would have gotten me into trouble. I'm sure that if anyone suspected something like that, they'd report it, I'd be investigated, and BAM, there goes my sweet deal.

Originally Posted by badmana

You mentioned that participating in rape fantasies were up to you. Did you ever accept a call regarding this particular dark fantasy? Was it similar to a Sub role when a Dom would call or was is...different...somehow?

Well, S&M doesn't have much to do with unwillingness, really, because the sub agrees to be dominated, as opposed to the rape victim who really is powerless. I did some rape calls, when I got the sense that it was strictly fantasy, but if the guy struck me as someone who might actually want to rape someone, I was outta there.

Of course it's all acting and I personally can't see how this could be "acted" properly over the phone but did you see it as a Sub "role" and go along with it as long as it didn't get too violent (swearing or verbally abusive)? Or would a caller call only to have you relate a story about rape? Did any callers ask specifically about something like incest?

I didn't even mind verbal abuse as long as (and this is gonna sound strange; try to bear with me) it seemed like it was all in good fun. Sometimes callers wanted incest stuff (one guy apparently had the hots for his sister, and wanted me to "play" said sister); the incest stuff was okay with me, as long as it only involved willing (covered by the rape clause) adults (covered by the minors clause). Incest isn't anything that appeals to me, but hey, if you're a chef in a restaurant, you don't have to enjoy filet mignon to make a nice one, yes?

[norinew]

Originally Posted by badmana

And just out of curiosity what was the ratio of white/black/asian men who called (that you could determine) and what kind of social "level" would you say they belonged to? (Middle class average guy vs old rich men or horney 18 year olds?).

Sorry, I missed this one the first time through. I'd have to take a WAG that it was mostly middle-class white guys between the ages of, oh, 25 and 60. The younger kids, I would think, would go for that per minute stuff cuz they could get off in three minutes and be outta there, cheap. Or, they had actual sex. I got the impression that a lot of guys who called were married or committed, and didn't want to cheat on their SOs but wanted a little variety.