Republican senators records on blocking nominees.

[Reeder]

For those who seem to think the democrats have cornered the market on blocking.

http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne...buster_509.htm

They don't.

I particularly like this quote by Trent Lott...

"When the Democrats think that all the President has to do is to kick up some appointments to the Federal judiciary and that we're just gonna take 'em whole hog and pop 'em right out...well, that's not my intent." [The Bulletin's Frontrunner, 1/21/97]

My how times change.

[SteveG1]

I have nothing to add, just checking in to say I'm very surprised nobody has come in with a reply. It does seem very relevant to the recent accusations of "obstruction" and threats to "go nuclear" whatever that really means.

[Bricker]

I've said before, and I'll happily repeat now, that the GOP has very dirty hands in this issue; everything they are piously attacking the Democrats for now, they did then.

[CynicalGabe]

One of the most useful phrases I have leaned in my Political Science-oriented education:

ad hoc ideology

So much more eloquent than "those guys are full of shit!"

[Rhubarb]

Pot, meet Kettle.

"Yeah, but when WE do it, it's for the good of the ENTIRE nation, not just one political party!" ~ Any politician of any political party from any country during any period, past, present or future.

[rjung]

Originally Posted by Bricker

I've said before, and I'll happily repeat now, that the GOP has very dirty hands in this issue; everything they are piously attacking the Democrats for now, they did then.

The GOP hasn't had clean hands since the Carter Administration.

[John Mace]

Are you telling me that politicians are hypocritical on some issue? Well golly gee withers. Someone needs to do an expose on this!!

[Bricker]

Originally Posted by rjung

The GOP hasn't had clean hands since the Carter Administration.

And the Democrats stole the 1960 presidential election.

Next?

[SteveG1]

1960? That was then, this is now. They uh borrowed it, they were gonna give it back.

Both/all parties play sneaky little games and then scream bloody murder if the other side does the same thing. They're all full of it.

[Harborwolf]

Originally Posted by rjung

The GOP hasn't had clean hands since the Carter Administration.

And their mothers are very disappointed in them.

[tomndebb]

And the Democrats stole the 1960 presidential election.

What whooosh am I missing? Just curious.

[ElvisL1ves]

Originally Posted by Bricker

And the Democrats stole the 1960 presidential election.

Next?

Next is you learning the facts for once - if you actually start to care, that is.

[E-Sabbath]

No great woosh. http://slate.msn.com/id/91350/
It's still a bit speculative, but Mayor Daley (The father of the... well, we can't call him a bastard, because the line of descent is far too obvious... Ah. Yes. The father of the politician who currently is mayor of Chicago. Says it all.) almost one hundred percent certainly participated in severe electoral fraud on behalf of JFK.

[E-Sabbath]

Elvis and I are providing the same cite, and we are not saying different things. The election was close enough for oddness to pop up, and there was almost certainly severe electoral fraud in Illinois. However, this does not mean that Nixon would have won. On the other hand, the fraud in Illinois is not the sort that would have been found by a recount. So...

People who like sausage or respect the law shouldn't watch either being made.

That's been attributed to both Twain and Heinlein, in slightly differing forms. Me, I think it's Will Rogers. Sounds like him.

[tomndebb]

Oh, come on, Elvis. I figured he was joking. I just couldn't figure out his allusion since Oliver Stone's debacle should have put the Illinois story to rest.

[ElvisL1ves]

tom, let's let him tell us, shall we?

[ElvisL1ves]

E-Sabbath, that link also lays to rest, or should, the myth that Nixon refused to request a recount out of some sense of responsible citizenship superior to, say, Gore's.

[Lord Ashtar]

Originally Posted by ElvisL1ves

Next is you learning the facts for once - if you actually start to care, that is.

I wonder if I'll be reading a similar article about the 2000 election in 40 years.

[Bricker]

Originally Posted by ElvisL1ves

E-Sabbath, that link also lays to rest, or should, the myth that Nixon refused to request a recount out of some sense of responsible citizenship superior to, say, Gore's.

Oh, I'm not trotting out that canard. Nor am I actually seriously contending that the election of 1960 was stolen, come to that... although it's as fair to say the 1960 election was stolen as to say the 2004 election was stolen.... in other words, based on nothing but supposition in each case.

I have no doubt there was massive vote fraud in Illinois; I have no idea if Nixon would have won absent any fraud, and I have no idea if Nixon benefitted from fraud as well.

My point, in other words, should have been evident as I replied to rjung's comment that the GOP has had dirty hands since Carter: it goes back further than that, and it applies to both sides.

[E-Sabbath]

Yes it does, Elvis. I find Slate a... not unbiased, but reasonably accurate source on most things. You do know I'm a paleoconservative Republican, right? Libertarian leanings and a healthy distrust of anyone in power? Personally, I _wish_ we had a president like Mr. Nixon again. As opposed to what we have now.