To the jagoffs who left a broken Jones Cola bottle in the middle of the bike trail

[LateComer]

Fuck you. Just Fuck you.

I just wanted to get home from work before the thunderstorms hit last night. They didn't hit until later but that's not the point. I had to limp the last 2 miles on the rim, having not brought a spare tube (It's only a 6.5 mile ride total). A nice leisurely ride turned into a big pain in the ass.

Fuck.

And while I'm on the subject: To all you other people on the trail, especially with kids, please check behind you once in a while or at least pay attention. I can only ring my bell and shout "On your left!" so loud and so many times before I have to stop to avoid your family hogging up the entire trail, fuck you too.

[I can't believe that's butter!]

Never had a problem on the trail with the former, thank goodness (the street I'll not get into).

With the latter, I encountered that constantly, whether it be someone's kid weaving around, right into my path as I'm keeping a pace (would've been an ugly accident) or people who must have been thinking the dotted line was for decorative purposes—"Oh, how cute, they make it look just like a real road!".

Were you actually riding on the rim?? I hope that it was a mountain bike, at least!

[LateComer]

Originally Posted by Joe K

Were you actually riding on the rim?? I hope that it was a mountain bike, at least!

I walked and rode. It's damn hard to ride on a flat. It's a hybrid (700x36) and the flat rubber completely covered the rim so there was no damage.

[E-Sabbath]

And that is why I paid extra for the kevlar tires. And I _still_ carry a tube in my underseat toolkit. And a chain, and a chain tool, and you know the rest.

[wheelie]

I used to use STOP brand tire liners on my Motobecane 10 speed (before it got stolen. Fucking bastard!). They were a semi-flexible band that fit in between the tire and tube. Got plenty of cuts in my tires, but never got a flat. Haven't gotten around to fitting a set on my Trek mountain bike though.
E-Sabbath, how much extra are kevlar tires? They sound like the way to go.

[jnglmassiv]

I've always thought the kevlar in kevlar tires was to replace steel in the bead. This wouldn't contribute to the puncture resistance. This does allow the tire to folded and saves a bit on the weight.

Around here, bike trails are drinking grounds and transients' residence first, cycling path last. Glass is pretty much part of the gravel.

[E-Sabbath]

Huh. They seemed the same weight to me, just a kevlar band around the bottom. Course, I could be _wrong_. Was sold to me as a puncture resistance measure and not a weight measure. (Current bike: Nishiki Pueblo. Old, but functional. Been through three countries.)
http://www.ehow.com/how_14084_buy-bike-tire.html
This seperates kevlar and folding tires.
http://www.athenscyclepath.com/wconnroadtires.html
Ah. So there _are_ Kevlar beads, but they're different from belts.

Yeah, they weren't _cheap_, but they were worth it in sheer lack of worry.
Google says bout $25 a tire.

[Anaamika]

I just want to add my bitch to both of these things. Fucking beer drinkers are the biggest culprits that I've seen, they get drunk and then leave their beer bottles (broken) all over the playground, park, etc. Why can't you go drink in your own backyard?

I don't get as much trouble with the people hogging the trails around here, but when it does, it's always bad. What's so difficult about right side of the road? Grr.

[LateComer]

Originally Posted by E-Sabbath

And that is why I paid extra for the kevlar tires. And I _still_ carry a tube in my underseat toolkit. And a chain, and a chain tool, and you know the rest.

I hit the glass in such a way that I don't think any tire would have resisted puncture. I suspect it was left that way on purpose. I heard glass shatter as I hit it and the sound of air rushing out of the tire followed promptly. I should also add that I was a good trail user and stopped, went back, and removed the glass from the trail to prevent the people who had trouble getting out of the way from repeating my experience.

[aaslatten]

Sorry about your accident, but that's pretty cool that it was a Jones Soda bottle.

[Ponder Stibbons]

I do a lot of road riding. And while I've gotten plenty of flats over the years -- and yes, some due to glass, the worst example happened to a friend of mine while we were out riding. He had just that morning put on a new pair of tires, the old set being a bit worn. We were about five miles from home and he hit a jagged broken beer bottle straight on. There was no "pssshhhh" sound of air coming out because the bottle cut the tire from side to side and resulted in an instant flat. Man you should've heard him cuss! It cut up his brand new tire so bad there was no question of repair; it was flat impossible. I had to finish the ride, get in my car and come back for him. Man, it was bad enough to have hit it, but a brand new tire. Ouuuuuuuch!

So, [b]LateComer[/i], I feel for ya, I really do!

[E-Sabbath]

Truthfully, I havn't had a flat from road damage since I started the Kevlars. If you hit it straight on? Safest thing to do. It's the sidewalls that are still vunerable. Not saying it's impossible, but I have had really good luck.

[I can't believe that's butter!]

Originally Posted by aaslatten

Sorry about your accident, but that's pretty cool that it was a Jones Soda bottle.

I've seen this Jones Soda around, in the store and online. This is the new hip soda, right? Why, anyway?

I daresay I'd yell much profanity toward the offending litterer all the same.

[gaffigan-falsetto]"Those sure are some cool assholes who broke a Jones Soda bottle on the trail..."[/g-f]

[Hipster Crippler]

To the Jones Soda Bandit. Thank you. The non-jagoff world owes you a debt of gratitude. These morons on two wheels need another reason for a whiny tirade, other than the world recognizes them as the douches that they truly are.

Those who can, do; those who can't teach. Those who have some reasonable semblance of an actual life, drive cars; those who are greasy, smelly, hipster dumbasses clogging up the gears of the real world, ride bikes.

I would tell you dipshits to get a life, but you'd first have to get a clue, and we all know that will never happen.

[ladyfoxfyre]

Welcome to the board, you fucking moron.

[Smeghead]

If you're going to troll successfully, it's a terrible idea to come in with troll guns a'blazin'. You've got to work up to that kind of belligerency. You need to establish a cover identity to at least make a few people question your intentions. You've got a lot to learn, son.

[Hipster Crippler]

I have learned more than enough, of how to be an asshole, by watching you fucking nitwits here. What are you doing here, anyway? Is there an internet kiosk on the bike trail now, next to the homeless guy shitting himself, the teenagers drinking cheap beer, and the pervert exposing himself? Don't you have some respectable citizens, who contribute to society, to annoy?

[E-Sabbath]

What do you drive, dearie? I'm sure it's cute.

[brewha]

Drive? I'd guess our new friend here is about 12 and figured out how to log on to his mommy's computer.

[Ferret Herder]

Originally Posted by Hipster Crippler

I have learned more than enough, of how to be an asshole, by watching you fucking nitwits here. What are you doing here, anyway?

So the best you can do with your life is dig up a thread from 2005 to laugh about - like there haven't been tons more bike threads since then. I guess you win the whole Internet, congrats.

[E-Sabbath]

It's also true that the thread is older than hipsters. Because it was talking about things before hipsters were cool. It's so _done_ these days.

C'mon, sweetcheeks. What's your big manly vehicle? Does it say Fischer-Price?

[Enderw24]

Originally Posted by Hipster Crippler

I have learned more than enough, of how to be an asshole, by watching you fucking nitwits here. What are you doing here, anyway? Is there an internet kiosk on the bike trail now

I'm pretty sure he made it back home by now. Even the three toed sloth manages a pace at faster than 1 mile per year.

[Hipster Crippler]

Maybe if all you Nancies pooled skipped your lunchables today, and pooled your money together, you could pay an adult with an education past the sixth grade level to write some decent material for you.

I drive a Chevy Suburban. A big, fucking gas-guzzling, full-of-blindspots-to-increase-the-likelihood-of-running-over-some-dumbass-on-a-bike, 12 mpg beast. I ride around smoking cigars so as to try to make the largest carbon footprint possible, upside your fucking stupid heads.

[brewha]

Ahh. We weren't done poking that one yet.

[Cat Whisperer]

He's in...aaand he's out.

[shiftless]

Originally Posted by LateComer

And while I'm on the subject: To all you other people on the trail, especially with kids, please check behind you once in a while or at least pay attention. I can only ring my bell and shout "On your left!" so loud and so many times before I have to stop to avoid your family hogging up the entire trail, fuck you too.

Sorry. I couldn't hear you because I was listening to my IPod. Can you ring your bell louder please? Also, watch out for my three children who like to wonder around as we walk, those scamps. And my dog. I like to use a very long, thin leash so you should stop if you see me and my dog on opposite sides of the trail becasue I will be really pissed if you hit the leash and hurt my dog.

[E-Sabbath]

... and that's why my bike had an airhorn mount.

[Mr. Miskatonic]

Originally Posted by shiftless

Sorry. I couldn't hear you because I was listening to my IPod. Can you ring your bell louder please? Also, watch out for my three children who like to wonder around as we walk, those scamps. And my dog. I like to use a very long, thin leash so you should stop if you see me and my dog on opposite sides of the trail becasue I will be really pissed if you hit the leash and hurt my dog.

Oh, and would you mind if I feed the geese here? I like to lean up against my car I illegally drove down this path and toss food in the pathway for the geese. I'm sure they won't be a hazard or shit all over the path.

[CatherineZeta]

I just started using my bike to commute...parents need to get it through their damn heads that a bike path, especially THIS ONE (I take the Hudson Greenway that goes along the West Side Highway) is not for children....a toddler on a tricycle does not stand a chance against bikers who are probably going 25 mph. Luckily I haven't had any issues yet with debris...kids are my biggest worry as well as idiot adults who just stand in front of me.

[carlb]

Maybe it's because I'm getting old and cranky, but whether it's a bike trail, a running path, the sidewalk, or a hallway, I've seemingly encountered more and more groups of people who don't seem to understand that these pathways are for the use of everyone, not just their little sub-herd. Do people honestly not understand that when they walk three or four abreast, taking up the entire width of whatever path they are on, it prevents others from either passing them or, even worse (IMHO) walking in the opposite direction? Are they really that oblivious? Or do they simply not care?

You'll have to take my word for it, but I'm an extraordinarily polite and patient person. Even I, though, have begun to lose it. My default level of politeness for these roadhogs is now a very snarky, "Excuse me," as I'm coming up from behind (I will give verbal warning when overtaking from the rear; it gives the merely oblivious an opportunity to correct their behavior). Approaching from the opposite direction however, my very first inclination is to carve out a portion of the sidewalk for myself, and hold to it. If this means that there's a physical collision, well, so be it. I'm not the biggest guy out there, but I'm not small. Don't want me to bump into you? MOVE OUT OF THE WAY! Share the road, people. It's not a difficult concept.

[LateComer]

I don't think I've ever had one of my rare threads zombified before! And never by a moron!

6 years later and nothing's changed. And E-Sabbath I've considers getting an airhorn. I work on a college campus and the trail is sometimes littered with earbudded runners. Does it work?

[E-Sabbath]

Better than a bell! Just find a nautical supply store. Thing is, it can get you attention from other directions than your target.

[LateComer]

Originally Posted by E-Sabbath

Better than a bell! Just find a nautical supply store. Thing is, it can get you attention from other directions than your target.

My bikeshop sells the airhorns, I don't know if they have mounts though. Thanks.

[Mr. Miskatonic]

Air Zound - Fits in a water bottle cage.