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Old 11-07-2005, 01:50 PM
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What famous cases are still open?

For example, has Judge Crater ever been found? Or D.B. Cooper or the Black Dahlia's killer?

I'm sure that there are hobbyist detectives working on all sorts of mysteries. I'm just curious which are still unsolved.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:57 PM
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For example, has Judge Crater ever been found? Or D.B. Cooper or the Black Dahlia's killer?

I'm sure that there are hobbyist detectives working on all sorts of mysteries. I'm just curious which are still unsolved.

If you ask O.J. the killer of Nicole is still unknown.

And it is Dan Cooper, D.B. was an man in the Portland Or. area that the news media latched on to and the Intials stuck.
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:05 PM
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You haven't been spending enough time in MPSIMS: Judge Crater "Found!" Sort Of!

Every month someone comes out with a new possible identity for Jack the Ripper.

You might want to also consider that many officially "closed" cases are thought by many not to have convicted the real guilty party. The Lindbergh baby kidnapping, for instance. (I'd mention the Kennedy and King assassinations, but that would be opening a real can of worms.)
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:05 PM
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If you ask O.J. the killer of Nicole is still unknown.
But never fear - he's hard at work tracking down the real murderer.
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:23 PM
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Maybe it's the same guy who killed Robert Blake's wife.
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:25 PM
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Or the guy who molested those kids at the Neverland Ranch.
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:33 PM
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What about Lizze Borden? (Is it Borden or Gorden, my head is hurting and I'm blanking). Still don't know who killed her parents.
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:34 PM
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Wouldn't it be wild if there really were some sort of celebrity-wife serial killer in SoCal?

Not that I think so, mind you, but the irony would be pretty heavy.
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:54 PM
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Crimelibrary is a great place to get all your unsolved celebrity slasher info. It does miss out on odd unsolved cases like the 1957 Boy in a Box murder.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:18 PM
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Did they ever close the case on the Kingsbury run murders back in the 1930's?
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:29 PM
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The Kingsbury Run Butcher case is another usolved mystery. The police managed to beat a cofession out of an alcoholic, but his cofession was obviously coached and the evidence the police turned out to crudely faked.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:10 PM
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The anthrax killer has never been found, nor has the Tylenol killer, whom we can thank for all our impossible-to-unwrap products.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:48 PM
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Donald Eugene Webb is still on the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted list, twenty-four years later.
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:57 PM
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The Black Dahlia murder is still open. Although I watched a show recently that claimed to have solved the case.

Damn, I was also going to link to the Cleveland Torso murders. I had no idea that they were the same as the Kingsbury Run Butcher.
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Old 11-07-2005, 05:01 PM
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Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance and final resting place(s) remains unsolved.

Who killed Sam Shepard's wife remains unsolved (there is conflicting information about a supposed deathbed confession from a convict).

The West Memphis Three case is officially closed but there is no shortage of people who question the verdict.

Is Thelma Todd's death solved?
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:21 PM
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The Zodiac killer was never identified.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:27 PM
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Chandra Levy's killer was never identified, although a person who was believed to have possibly been the killer was convicted for other similar crimes.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:31 PM
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A whole bunch of unsolved murders here.
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:11 PM
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There was a program on either The Hitler Channel or Discovery Channel (yeah, I know, not the best source at all), where they stated that the fellow commonly referred to as DB Cooper was most likely caught within a few years. It seems there was a nearly identical hijacking some time after "Cooper" pulled his. The FBI in their efforts to track down the second hijacker (IIRC a National Gaurdsman from Utah), realized that it had to be the same guy. They managed to nab him, but I can't recall why it was that he wasn't charged with both crimes. I'm thinking that the guy died before the case could go to trial, but I could be mistaken on that.
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:15 PM
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:17 PM
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Ambrose Bierce?
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:20 PM
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I heard they found this guy, Lee something. Might be a promising lead.
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:20 PM
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What about Lizze Borden? (Is it Borden or Gorden, my head is hurting and I'm blanking). Still don't know who killed her parents.

Borden.

My money's on an illegitimate son of Andrew Borden's.
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:59 PM
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If you ask O.J. the killer of Nicole is still unknown.
And given that he was acquitted and the double jeopardy issue, technically it still is. Theoretically someone else could be tried and convicted. And the cops sure had a ton of science that they ought to be have been able to convict if OJ did it. My guess is the cops fumbled. At least w/Lizzie, the police could be excused due to lack of available forensic science. (Although w/Lizzie IMO there are other plausible suspects and possibilities.)
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:57 AM
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. . . the cops sure had a ton of science that they ought to be have been able to convict if OJ did it. . . .
Are you suggesting that OJ is innocent?
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:06 AM
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And the cops sure had a ton of science that they ought to be have been able to convict if OJ did it. My guess is the cops fumbled.
Basically what happened was Simpson's lawyers convinced the jury that they could ignore any evidence they wished to because the legal system was racist.
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:46 AM
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While speaking of OJ, don't forget Ron Goldman.

JonBenet Ramsey's murder is still unsolved.

All three of these horrible murders will probably never be solved.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:31 AM
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...Who killed Sam Shepard's wife remains unsolved (there is conflicting information about a supposed deathbed confession from a convict)....
Dr. Sam Sheppard was convicted in his first trial in 1954, but the conviction was set aside by the U.S. Supreme Court due to the "Roman carnival" atmosphere of the trial (too much media intrusion, public hysteria, no sequestration/too much mingling by the press with the jury, etc.). Sheppard was acquitted in his second trial, in 1966. He testified in the first trial, but didn't in the second.

A few years ago, many years after Sheppard's death, his son Sam Reese Sheppard brought a civil suit against the State of Ohio for the wrongful imprisonment of his father. There was considerable additional evidence introduced by the plaintiff, including bloodstain analysis. The plaintiff strongly suggested that Richard Eberling, a criminal who'd done some work in the Sheppard house, was the actual murderer. After a multi-week trial, the civil jury didn't need long to deliberate before ruling against the plaintiff.

I was involved on the periphery of the civil retrial, helping the State's trial team. I was inclined at the outset to believe that Eberling was the killer, but after reading Sheppard's implausible first-trial testimony and reviewing the evidence, I agreed with the conclusion reached by the civil jury. Even after all these years, though, it's still a controversial case in the greater Cleveland area.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:50 AM
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The death of Joan Robinson Hill in Houston in 1969 led to her husband, Dr. John Hill, being tried for murder by omission. The first attempt was a mistrial and he was shot to death in the doorway of his home waiting for the second trial. Everyone "knew" that Joan's stepdad, oil tycoon Ash Robinson, had ordered the hit, but Ash was never arrested for the crime and it was never proven in court, nor was John Hill's guilt ever proven.

As an interesting aside - the shooter was hired by a fairly notorious Houston madam named Lilla Paulus. At her trial, the chief witness against her was her daughter, Mary Jo. I went to high school with Mary Jo.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:45 PM
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All three of these horrible murders will probably never be solved.
There may not have been a conviction, but the murders of Nicole Brown-Simpson and Ron Goldman are not unsolved. OJ Simpson may have been found not guilty in a courtroom but it's foolish to ignore the reality that he did kill them.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:58 PM
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The murder of Ken Rex McElroy has never been solved, and probably never will be.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:52 PM
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Big Pussy Bompensiero.

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