GWB is an inarticulate goober .....

[What the .... ?!?!]

... who doesn't play political hardball very well. How else do you explain taking so long to give today's speech?

For debate: If the next president is a conservative Republican with the charisma and political scruples of, say, Bill Clinton ........ will the left riot in the streets?

[What the .... ?!?!]

Originally Posted by What the .... ?!?!

... who doesn't play political hardball very well. How else do you explain taking so long to give today's speech?

For debate: If the next president is a conservative Republican with the charisma and political scruples of, say, Bill Clinton ........ will the left riot in the streets?

I'd like to clarify that to "extremists on the left".... the ones who have already shown a propensity to violence.

[Loopydude]

The OP is fucking incoherent. What in the blazing Hell are you talking about?

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by What the .... ?!?!

I'd like to clarify that to "extremists on the left".... the ones who have already shown a propensity to violence.

Oh, those guys. Yeah, you gotta watch out for those extremists on the left. Especially the ones with a "propensity to violence". They probbaly will get violent, what with having that propensity and all.

[rjung]

Originally Posted by Loopydude

The OP is fucking incoherent. What in the blazing Hell are you talking about?

Feeding some personal right-wing political porn fantasy, no doubt.

[JonScribe]

Pardon me, can you point me in the direction of the left-wing extremist mob. I've brought my pitchfork.

[Loopydude]

To be perfectly honest, I found the OP so difficult to parse I wasn't exactly sure who was being attacked. Guess my reading comprehension skills could use some honing, but still, waht teh fux0rzzzz?

[Scylla]

To help witht he OP:

Yes, Bush is a goober. It really can't be denied.

Yes, he's not particularly articulate.

Yes, he made a speech today and for the first time ever went into attack mode against the left and it's accusations for like.... three paragraphs. He did this in front of an extremely friendly audience.

Call it a trial balloon, carefully scripted by his handlers.


I predict that it will either be completely ignored, or, start a huge partisan battle/national debate... or something between those two.

[XT]

Is GWB an inarticulate goober? Well, obviously he isn't completely inarticulate, else you wouldn't have understood the speech at all. As to being a goober...even without asking you to define what that means I'll agree...he's a goober.

For debate: If the next president is a conservative Republican with the charisma and political scruples of, say, Bill Clinton ........ will the left riot in the streets?

Doubtful. They are convinced of their position. Having someone articulate positions they don't agree with will merely spur them to disagree more vocally. Plenty of articulate Dems out there to challenge the 'Pubs after all.

Originally Posted by Scylla

I predict that it will either be completely ignored, or, start a huge partisan battle/national debate... or something between those two.

Undoubtedly it will be completely ignored in some circles, and start a huge partisan battle here on this board. I'm sure there will be many a pit thread starting soon about his speech.

Honestly this doesn't seem much of a 'debate' to me. More like something that belongs in The Pit. Just MHO.

-XT

[Malodorous]

Originally Posted by Scylla

Yes, he made a speech today and for the first time ever went into attack mode against the left and it's accusations for like.... three paragraphs. He did this in front of an extremely friendly audience.

this one?

If I were one of the prez's handlers, I'd tell him to ignore the accusations made by the senate Dems regarding the lead up to the war. Mentioning it is just gonna keep it in the news, and there are others far more able to make Bush's case for the Iraq war far more convincingly then Bush himself, without giving the critisism the extra news-worthiness that a rebutal from the POTUS gives it.

[XT]

Here is an article on the speech (I presume based on Scylla's interperation of the OP that this is what he's talking about) loopydude, as I agree the OP is a bit, er, unclear.

-XT

[What the .... ?!?!]

My apologies, let me break it down:

GWB = George W Bush.... I thought that would be obvious in context

Innarticulate = can't talk good.... kinda like I write

Goober = hick

Political hardball = one of us isn't watching Chris Matthews enough but maybe this is the first item open for debate. Apart from the example I gave, remember back when the left's mantra was "we went in there without a plan". Bush and his people let that be said without argument forever. Obviously there was all kinds of planning for all kinds of contingencies.

The next part about conservative with charisma and political scruples of Clinton makes sense doesn't it? Perhaps there is no such person .....debate?

Finally, "riot in the streets" and "propensity/violence" ..... heres where I let my bomb-throwing tendencies get the better of me. Would you not agree that while both the right and left have their individual lunatics like McVeigh and the Unabomber, doesn't it seem like political mob violence is most often seen from the extreme left?

Propensity ...... my online dictionary here says "An innate inclination; a tendency" ...... that's quite a range isn't it. I'll stick with the "tendency" side of the spectrum.

Overall, the way Bush is portrayed as evil incarnate by so many makes me wonder how those folks might react to someone who would actually be more effective.

[Left Hand of Dorkness]

You gotta watch out for those inarticulate goobers. You never know where you'll find them. They're actually the source of the saying, "No comment from the peanut gallery."

Daniel

[elucidator]

Originally Posted by Scylla

...He did this in front of an extremely friendly audience....

I can't recall the last time Das Goober gave a speech in front of an audience that wasn't. He's somewhat "risk averse". When it comes to giving speeches, that is.

[John Mace]

Originally Posted by What the .... ?!?!

The next part about conservative with charisma and political scruples of Clinton makes sense doesn't it? Perhaps there is no such person .....debate?

That was the part I understood the least...

[Hamlet]

Originally Posted by Left Hand of Dorkness

You gotta watch out for those inarticulate goobers. You never know where you'll find them.

My oldest daughter got a bag of them when she went trick or treating. I'm thinking of running it for mayor.

[Left Hand of Dorkness]

"Dumber'n a bag a goobers." I'm gonna have to call someone that soon.

Daniel
:wandering off to the pit

[Scylla]

Originally Posted by elucidator

I can't recall the last time Das Goober gave a speech in front of an audience that wasn't. He's somewhat "risk averse". When it comes to giving speeches, that is.

Didn't he get beaten up by the vast left wing conspiracy press people in the Rose Garden a month ago?

There was the UN.

But tell me truly, Luce. Can you blame him for barring Warren Beatty and Annette Bening?

[Scylla]

What the....:

It appears you've named yourself appropriately. I am having trouble parsing your previous post.

May I ask if you are native english speaker?

[Hamlet]

Originally Posted by Scylla

May I ask if you are native english speaker?

Nah. He's a conservative.

[Frostillicus]

Originally Posted by Scylla

But tell me truly, Luce. Can you blame him for barring Warren Beatty and Annette Bening?

I thought that was Ahnold.

[elucidator]

Originally Posted by Scylla

...But tell me truly, Luce. Can you blame him for barring Warren Beatty and Annette Bening?

Ms. Benning did a full frontal nude scene in The Grifters. My soul has writhed in torment ever since. Dark and corrosive jealousy is quite immune to partisan feeling. To put it mildly, I his guts.

[Zoe]

Suggestion to the OP: Try reading your sentences aloud before you post them.

doesn't it seem like political mob violence is most often seen from the extreme left?

Are you asking if the extreme left is more likely to engage in political mob violence?

If so, my answer would have to be no.

Although I consider misuse of the military* to be the ultimate in political mob violence, there are certainly examples on a smaller scale. (Women's clinic bombings, fundamentalist protestors who made it necessary to have police to guardTerry Schivo's room, peace protestors being physically attacked, "neo" racist groups and so on.)



*Google: "War in Iraq" 9/11

[RickJay]

Originally Posted by Scylla

But tell me truly, Luce. Can you blame him for barring Warren Beatty and Annette Bening?

At first I read this as "Can you blame him for banging Warren Beatty and Annette Bening?" And I thought, gosh no. Especially not if it was at the same time.

[Frank]

I'm going to barge in here and close this thread, as there isn't much debate and (goobers aside) it's not suitable for the Pit and I don't want it in IMHO.

If the OP would care to take some time and phrase the OP more, urm, coherently with a point for debate innit, I should think starting a new thread would be fine.