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Old 12-07-2005, 07:07 PM
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Has there ever been a decent Jesus movie?

Not to hijack this thread, but has there even been a decent Jesus movie?

OK, didn't at all care for the brutality of The Passion

Last Temptation was just...weird

The Greatest Story Ever Told
is ok.

King of Kings put me to sleep.

Hmm..any others?
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:10 PM
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I thought that Jesus Christ Superstar was quite good.

Then again, a friend of mine knew Carl Anderson on a first-name basis.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:12 PM
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Considering that I'm an ardent Catholic Republican, this may sound odd but... the best Jesus movie I've seen was made by a gay, Communist agnostic named Pierpaolo Pasolini (yes, the guy Monty Python made fun of in their cricket film, "The Third Test Match").

Try renting "The Gospel According to St. Matthew."
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:38 PM
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I liked the Passion and Last Temptation ok, and I also like Jesus of Montreal, but I guess that's weirder than L.T.
Chronicles of Narnia is out soon. . .
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:50 PM
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:09 PM
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Try renting "The Gospel According to St. Matthew."
Haven't seen it, but I've heard great things about that one -- just the one I was going to recommend.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:10 PM
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Let's face it, Jesus is just not an easy guy to talk about.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:34 PM
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The mini-series Jesus of Nazareth was very good, IMNSHO.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:52 PM
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Ben Hur, tangentally. And maybe Life of Brian.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:03 PM
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Let's face it, Jesus is just not an easy guy to talk about.
But...but...Jesus is just alright with me.

And Jesus was way cool. If he wanted to, he could play guitar better than Hendrix.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:15 PM
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I opened this thread to make th same suggestion astorian did. Pier Paolo Pasolini's film is the straight Gospel According to St. Matthew, with no additions, deletions, explanations, or apologies. Jesus looks like a young dud with a beard that is less grown-out than portraits normally have, and it makes him look like a revolutionary. Pasolini reportedly used his own aged mother to play Mary, and she looks far too old for the part. (In distinction to Michaelangelo, whose Mary in The Pieta looks far too young). Very well-done film.


It's significant that Pasolini was an atheist. My favorite plays and movies about saints and the like are by theist, agnostics, and similar "unbelievers", who nevertheless treat their subjects with respect (rather than adulation) and create believable portraits. I love Robert Bolt's A Man for All Seasons (Sir/St. Thomas More), George Bernard Shaw's St. Joan (of Arc), and Jean Anouilh's Becket.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:37 PM
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How about Godspell. It got across Jesus's message in a light and fun way. I get the feeling Jesus might like it.

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Old 12-07-2005, 11:37 PM
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I really liked The Last Temptation, except for the scene where he tore his heart out. That was just silly. ;j
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:53 AM
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I liked Last Temptation and Jesus Christ Superstar(which had some catchy songs and interesting theological ideas).
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:55 AM
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The animated Miracle Maker was pretty good, I thought.
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:44 AM
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:26 AM
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Most joyous: Godspell (one of my all-time favorite movies, period).
Most dazzling, in a '70s kind of way: Jesus Christ Superstar.
Most cinematic: The Last Temptation of Christ.
Best standard take: Jesus of Nazareth.
Dreamboat Jesus: King of Kings.
Dead on arrival: The Greatest Story Ever Told.
Worst directed: The Gospel According to Matthew. Passolini can't edit even the simplest scenes. Only the Sermon on the Mount rises to the overrated reputation given to this movie.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:10 AM
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Another vote here for Jesus of Nazareth
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:25 AM
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Dammit. Beat me to it.

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Old 12-08-2005, 08:31 AM
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Hmmm -- I'l disagree with Walloon about Pasolini's direction. TGAtSM is the one Jesus flick treating him as a character that I'd want to see again. And I've liked Pasolini's other films. De Gustibus.... and all.



I, troo, love Godspell, but its "Clowns for Christ" style isn't at all about Jesus, but about His message -- it's The Parables as Minstrel Show. On Stage it's great, because it's an audienxce interactive show with the ability to provide up-to-the-minute commentary and topical jokes. Translating that sort of thing into a movie is damnmed near impossible. The flick substituted clever styles and the nifty trick of filming in Manhattan , with only the cast apparently present (except at the very beginning and end), a result achieved by clever camera placement, filming on Sundays, and , I imagine, a lotta crowd control. Cute flick, but not a portrait of Jesus.


I loved Jesus Christ, Superstar the album. The Broadway show seemed to be an exercise in stretching for weird interpretation. In recent years, the star of Tom O'Horgan's Broadway show, Jeff Fenholt, has become an evangelical preacher whose schtick is condemning himself at the time, saying that he waas a drug-user and a sinner while playing Jesus, but that he's now found The Way. I've heard one of his taped performances, and I saw him play the role on stage. Interesting. But I don't recommend the stage show. The movie was, I thought, abysmal.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:37 AM
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The animated Miracle Maker was pretty good, I thought.
I second that!

As well as the plugs for the miniseries JESUS OF NAZARETH.

I add-

the silent 1920s DeMille KING OF KINGS- beautifully crafted;

JESUS- THE (CBS) MINI-SERIES with Jeremy Sisto as a fun, laid-back but total GodMan, Debra Messing as the Magdalene & Gary Oldman as Pilate.

RE JC SUPERSTAR- I kinda like the movie, and it's vastly preferable to the recent video re-imagining which has Black Caiaphas & Black Pilate, White Groovy Androgynous JC, Judas with Dominatrix Demonesses singing SUPERSTAR, and Rik Mayall as Big Gay Herod.- THAT all was abyssmal!
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:39 PM
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The worst Jesus movie I saw is one that I can't even remember the name of. Jesus was played by a british guy with really white teeth and neat looking hair, and he wasn't inspiring at all. Judas was portrayed as a shifty-eyed not as white guy.

The thing I really like about Ben-Hur is that it portrays Judas as a more sympathetic character.
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:54 PM
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JCS is OK. The 2000 remake is better by orders of magnitude. ALW agrees, it closely matches his original conception. By far my favorite Jesus movie. Godspell is my #2.

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JESUS- THE (CBS) MINI-SERIES with Jeremy Sisto as a fun, laid-back but total GodMan, Debra Messing as the Magdalene & Gary Oldman as Pilate.
Yuck! I thought it was pretty awful. Jesus had an American accent. Joseph was Greek, Mary was British. That was one multicultural family!

But yeah, Debra Messing was hot. I'd be messing with her boobies a lot.
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:17 PM
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I love the 70's version of Jesus Christ Superstar

Soooooo...
You are the Christ,
you're the great Jesus Christ.
Prove to me that you're no fool
walk across my swimming pool...


I also like The Last Temptation.... Great soundtrack too by Peter Gabriel.

How many here have seen Greaser's Palace. Great psychedelic 70s interpretation set as a western. I highly recommend it.
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:25 PM
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I thought Jesus vs. MechaJesus was a hoot. Especially the part where they trashed Jerusalem.
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:40 PM
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Well, the sfx were pretty good in The Matrix...
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:49 PM
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I love the 70's version of Jesus Christ Superstar
But the newer one is so much better.

I believe that if one had to set one objective criterion for deciding which version is best, it's how the title character sings Gethsemene. Ted Neeley does a fine job. Moving, even. But Glenn Carter send chills up my spine. Whenever I watch that movie, I have to watch that scene twice. The "Nail me to your cross and break me" line is sung with such... such... uh, fabuloustitization, it's hard to believe anyone could have a voice like that. The guy is truly gifted. It's almost like he's the Son of God or something.

And the penultimate song with Judas turning the crucifixion into some sort of TV reality show is a stroke of genius.

The only thing it doesn't have going for it is, unlike the original, porn star Ron Jeremy isn't in it.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:07 PM
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There's one that my friends and I referred to as "Shiny Happy Jesus". They play it on channels like TBN. In my opinion it is pretty good. Jesus is actually a pretty likable and real character. He's not very good looking. He's pretty average and looks like a Jew. He's just so happy about everything. EVERYTHING.. well until the beating and crucifying.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:13 PM
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Glenn Carter send chills up my spine.
He was pretty damn good in the recent stage production of Lloyd-Webber's adaptation of Whistle Down The Wind too.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:58 PM
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The only thing it doesn't have going for it is, unlike the original, porn star Ron Jeremy isn't in it.
Wrong porn star. Philip Toubus, who played the apostle Peter, later became a porn actor and director under the name Paul Thomas.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:10 PM
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Don't fret. Narnia comes out tomorrow!

I really liked The Last Temptation of Christ. Even if you don't agree with the premise, it's a fresh new take on the story. Harvey Kitel as Judas-- now that's genius.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:16 PM
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Don't fret. Narnia comes out tomorrow!

I really liked The Last Temptation of Christ. Even if you don't agree with the premise, it's a fresh new take on the story. Harvey Kitel as Judas-- now that's genius.
Ah, but does Narnia have any porn stars in it? That's what really MAKES a Jesus movie!
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:24 PM
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But the newer one is so much better.

I believe that if one had to set one objective criterion for deciding which version is best, it's how the title character sings Gethsemene. Ted Neeley does a fine job. Moving, even. But Glenn Carter send chills up my spine. Whenever I watch that movie, I have to watch that scene twice. The "Nail me to your cross and break me" line is sung with such... such... uh, fabuloustitization, it's hard to believe anyone could have a voice like that. The guy is truly gifted. It's almost like he's the Son of God or something.

And the penultimate song with Judas turning the crucifixion into some sort of TV reality show is a stroke of genius.

The only thing it doesn't have going for it is, unlike the original, porn star Ron Jeremy isn't in it.
I haven't seen it, but I just checked the reviews on imdb. Wow!! I will make it a point to see this very soon.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:16 PM
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Which was the Jesus movie without a person playing Jesus? IIRC there is one where basically the camera is Jesus.

Ben Hur has Jesus as a side figure and you only get fleeting glimpses of him. But you do get the chariot race.
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Old 12-09-2005, 07:15 AM
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Ah, but does Narnia have any porn stars in it? That's what really MAKES a Jesus movie!
I'm sure you'll be able to find a copy of "Hornia" in a few weeks, on the same shelf as "Foreskin Gump" and "Shaving Ryan's Privates."
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:48 AM
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I'm sure you'll be able to find a copy of "Hornia" in a few weeks, on the same shelf as "Foreskin Gump" and "Shaving Ryan's Privates."
Make it a double feature with "Lord of the G-String: Femaleship of the String" (REAL movie with the yummy Misty Mundae!)
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:02 AM
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Pasolini's "Gospel according to St Matthew"
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Old 12-09-2005, 10:11 AM
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I haven't seen it, but I just checked the reviews on imdb. Wow!! I will make it a point to see this very soon.
I'm not sure what reviews you read, but I only saw one and it wasn't very positive. And I have to say that I strongly disagree with it.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:01 PM
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The only thing it doesn't have going for it is, unlike the original, porn star Ron Jeremy isn't in it.
I looked at the cast list in the IMDB entry for the 1973 version of JCS (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070239/), and I couldn't find Ron Jeremy. Was he using a different name?
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:10 PM
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According to this he was uncredited.
http://www.lowcomdom.com/film/j/jesu...superstar.html

Try a google search of Ron Jeremy Jesus Christ Superstar

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Old 12-09-2005, 01:17 PM
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I'm not sure what reviews you read, but I only saw one and it wasn't very positive. And I have to say that I strongly disagree with it.
Well, it seems the user comment on the main profile page has changed since yesterday. Actually, so has the first page of user comments (first 10 comments), which I could've sworn were all overwhelmingly positive. I didn't change the filter as far as I know, but it's possible it somehow got set to "loved it". In any case, the "chronological" filter still seems to bring up mostly positive reviews, though not unanimously.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:46 PM
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Well, it seems the user comment on the main profile page has changed since yesterday.
Ah. The review in your link was much better, though still less than glowing. From a theological standpoint, I can't really say how inaccurate it is. I just like the staging and the singing. The best part is when Jesus sings

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Old 12-09-2005, 01:59 PM
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:04 PM
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In The Ruling Class, Peter O'Toole made a great Jesus.
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:12 PM
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In The Ruling Class, Peter O'Toole made a great Jesus.
Just added this to my NetFlix queue. Thanks.
I haven't seen it in over 10 years.

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Old 12-09-2005, 04:34 PM
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Let's face it, Jesus is just not an easy guy to talk about.
Really? I hear people say "Jesus!" all the time.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:19 PM
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Another reason why I seriously doubt Ron Jeremy was in Jesus Christ Superstar is that I've gone through director Norman Jewison's papers from that production. They include a complete set of daily call sheets for the shooting, which was done in remote Israeli locations where the cast and crew were bused in. I found no Ron Jeremy (nor his real name, Ron Hyatt) listed in the call sheets. The extras were virtually all locals.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:30 PM
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:20 AM
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Really? I hear people say "Jesus!" all the time.
Yeah and then they do this .

See? Hard to talk about.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:34 AM
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Ah, but does Narnia have any porn stars in it? That's what really MAKES a Jesus movie!
Aslan is naked for the entire film, does that count?
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