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Plagiarism expert catches Coulter
A previous thread from 2005 accused Ann Coulter of plaigiarizing a column, but it was locked after a few posts. The consensus seemed to be that the accusation was pretty weak.
However, this recent article makes many more accusations, that she's plaigiarized in her recent book, Godless: the Church of Liberalism, and also in various newspaper columns from the last year. Quote:
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The sobering implication is that this means there are other people out there like Ann, and they're being published!
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But, I can understand. With so many babies hearts to cut out, how do you expect her to digest her sources and actually write original stuff? Give the bimbo a break, guys. |
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"leggy blonde pundit." Say it quickly three times without saying "plundit."
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I'm not surprised- fact is, you could nail dozens of authors doing exactly the same thing.
Political columnists of all stripes are constantly reprinting large chunks of other people's work. It's the lazy columnist's way out. A few equally lazy writers (Gary Wills on the Left and George Will on the right are the worst offenders) have an annoying habit of starting off a columns by saying: **** As Professor Joseph Schmeaux says in his brilliant new book Brilliant New Book, "Yada yadda yadda... (Continue quoting for 7 paragraphs) ... yadda yadda yadda" I couldn't have said it better myself. *** I haven't read Coulter's book, but I suspected it was a cut-and-paste job, like any of Michael Moore's. Apparently, skinny blondes are just as prone to laziness as fat nerds. |
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astorian writes:
> A few equally lazy writers (Gary Wills on the Left and George Will on the right > are the worst offenders) have an annoying habit of starting off a columns by > saying: > > **** > > As Professor Joseph Schmeaux says in his brilliant new book Brilliant New > Book, "Yada yadda yadda... > > (Continue quoting for 7 paragraphs) > > ... yadda yadda yadda" > > I couldn't have said it better myself. > > *** Does Garry Wills really do this that much? I know his work pretty well. I'm currently working through the twenty-first book that I've read by him. I've read all his articles in _The New York Review of Books_ for over a decade now. I've just checked some online columns by him to refresh my memory, and he doesn't do seven-paragraph quotations that I've noticed. Yes, often he starts a column by quoting one sentence from an author, particularly a classical Greek or Roman author or an early Christian writer. His columns often start out by sounding like meditations on single sentences from older authors, but they usually drop that format and become fairly standard comment and discussion of an issue. Garry Wills tends to have read everything on a subject he's discussing, so it's not surprising that he feels has to mention that some other author has distilled the issue to one sentence already. This isn't at all comparable to an author who plagiarizes material from other authors. I haven't looked at the evidence of whether Coulter has done any plagiarism and can't speak to it, but plagiarism doesn't include acknowledged quoting of other authors. You may have some case to make that some lazy columnists stretch out their columns with acknowledged quotations from other authors, but you'd have to make that a separate accusation, since it's quite a different thing from plagiarizing the other author. |
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Oh, my goodness, she does look like a Whippet with long blonde hair and oversized boobs. Well, I always thought she was a dog anyway. |
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I'm not particularly interested in defending Coulter as, in general, I don't think much of her as a person, or as a political anylist. However, this "plagerism" seems to me to be more a restatement of news facts than plagerizing other peoples' thoughts and claiming them as their own. Restating news facts is entirely different than claiming an analysis as your own. I will say that it is sloppy not to have cited the news sources, but this is hardly a smoking gun of plagerism.
Just like the Republicans trying to take down Clinton, find something real to charge the woman with, surely she's actually done something. Half-baked accusations aren't worth your time and she stands for a lot of onerous things, so talk about what she's really doing -- it's far worse than this. |
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One of the additional links above offers the following as evidence of plagiarism:
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What?!? |
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Coulter: The massive Dickey-Lincoln Dam, a $227 million hydroelectric project proposed on upper St. John River in Maine, was halted by the discovery of the Furbish lousewort, a plant previously believed to be extinct. Portland Press Herald: The massive Dickey-Lincoln Dam, a $227 million hydroelectric project proposed on upper St. John River, is halted by the discovery of the Furbish lousewort, a plant believed to be extinct. From this link: Quote:
At this site it states that Coulter claims she made a list of diseases that have been treated with adult stem cells, but failed to attribute the list to an article by Planned Parenthood (that link includes the complete side-by-side comparison of their lists: Quote:
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Cripes, Wills and Will both do this all the time! Once, Garry was trying (or THOUGHT he was trying) to write about racism, and he used up the entire column quoting from a Nero Wolfe mystery. As for Will... he'll rehash some old, pointless, lengthy baseball anecdote and then slap a postcript at the end, as if his story had some sort of deep political implications. |
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After all the vile, indefensible shit that troll has said, plagarism seems pretty small beer.
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> Once, Garry was trying (or THOUGHT he was trying) to write about racism, and > he used up the entire column quoting from a Nero Wolfe mystery. Cite? He certainly doesn't do this all the time. I've read a lot of Wills, and I don't recall him ever doing it. |
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That would have to be worth millions.. |
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![]() Without ever once admitting what a worthless f**kwad she is. ![]() Defending the scum of the Earth, even on strictly legal grounds, is NOT a noble profession. Sometimes you have to step back. See the forest for the trees. :spit: |
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It says a lot about the contents of Coulter's books that a valid charge of plagiarism would enhance her reputation and hurt the reputations of the original authors.
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Waenara Rhubarb Voyager Oakminster Pullet Slithy Tove astorian EddyTeddyFreddy drachillix Marley23 Squink Larry Borgia Otto WhyNot Malacandra ddgryphon Squink you with the face Wendell Wagner |
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Mod Note:
An Ann Coulter thread not in the Pit? Well, almost all of 'em tend to end up there, anyway, so off this one goes.
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or are you just defending Mr. Technically He/She/They are legally within their rights, all morality aside... |
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I am just fucking sick of Bricker's trolling, morally-bereft posts! Yeah, he might come in here and debate this, and make me look like an ass. It doesn't change my opinion of his.... morally-neutered.... view of right and wrong. Somewhere, between law school, and his "career", he LOST SIGHT of anything that was once important. Fuck Bricker, and fuck you too, puhna! |
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The put Capone away for tax evasion. |
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Nm. I've been informed I'm WAY out of line. I apologize to Bricker. That was way out of line. Way above my comprehension even. Sorry and I'm out of here.
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I will, however, note this about your view of Bricker: I was a member of this board back in 2000, and have been reading Bricker's posts off and on for the better part of a decade now. He and I have certainly had stern and occasionally terse disagreements (as is the case with a number of other people, both for his part and for mine), but I don't recall ever having formed the opinion that his was a trolling or morally bereft position on any issue. What does strike me right now, though, is that you are attacking him here for something I'm betting he said elsewhere. He has two posts in this thread, and neither make any mention of his vocation or the people he defends, let alone anything else. If you have an issue with Bricker specifically, perhaps you should put all your eggs in one basket, adage be damned, and leave this thread for those of us not wishing to discuss the merits and/or demerits of Bricket. (Marley: I did a textsearch in this thread for fuckwad. Nothing turned up. Sorry for the oversight )
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Well fuck. My post is now sort of entirely pointless, I suppose. (Almost 15,000 of them, you'd think I'd get used to that sort of feeling.) If a mod figures it's worth deleting it, no skin off my nose. If not, no skin off anything else
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(Not even gonna dignify the rest of that.) |
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Do we get pie? |
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Yay for pie! (Chair boogie ensues)
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Cherry pie is fine in its place.
In my completely original and unplagiarised opinion, that is just after a piece of chocolate cake, an ice-cream cone, a pickle, a slice of Swiss cheese, a slice of salami, and a lollipop; and just before a sausage, a cupcake and a slice of watermelon. Mercifully I find myself in no need of an opinion about Ann Coulter |
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This ... entity ... is on record in her book entitled Treason as saying: "All liberals and Democrats are guilty of actions tantamount to treason." (Close paraphrase; they didn't have a copy of Treason in the 10c bin at the rummage sale, and I would pay no more than that for it.) Now, until and unless she produces clearcut proof, the sort that will stand up in a court of law under serious efforts to impugn it, that I and other Democrats and liberals have committed the constitutional definition of treason, she is a slanderous, libelous bitch who does not deserve your good offices. I will stand up for the right of a KKK member, a NAMBLA member, even Fred Phelps, to exercise their rights to freedom of speech, no matter how repulsive the content. With that accusation, though, la Coulter has just crossed the line for me. (Her laudation of Tail Gunner Joe is either complete insanity or an effort to sell all the traffic will buy, too, but at least it's redeemed for me by leading me to discover America's most unlikely hero, Joseph Walsh.) |
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