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Old 07-05-2006, 09:27 PM
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Urination Causes Finger Pain

A question, please--and it really is a perfectly serious question--

I am a 40-year-old man. As long as I can remember, definately back into my preteen years, if I have to postpone urination, when I finally do get to "go," I have extremely painful aches in the fingers of both hands, which don't stop until I stop urinating.

It doesn't matter what I do with my hands; i.e. it's not positional.

Has anyone run across this or have any idea of the why? Is this something that has ever been noticed by anyone else?

Please note that I'm not asking for medical advice. This is more curiosity--just wondering if I'm the only one.

Thanks.

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Old 07-05-2006, 09:35 PM
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Hmmm. My wife has mentioned for years of having a similar "symptom" in that regard (i.e. tingling in her wrists). It's not like I don't believe her, but I really can't come up with a physiologic or anatomic explanation. I always assumed (without proof or even much logic) that the sensation was due to shared sensory pathways (somewhere) between the bladder (or urethra) and the wrists. Maybe some autonomic afferent that travels up to the low cervical (or high thoracic) cord?
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:39 PM
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Sorry, my last sentence was jargon. I should explain what I meant.

The autonomic nerves are those which govern things in the body for which we have no (or very little) voluntary control. In the context of my answer, an "afferent" means a nerve signal that's coming in, towards, the spinal cord (and thence brain). By "cord", I meant then spinal cord. "Cervical" and "thoracic" simply refer to that part of the spinal cord where the nerves to the hands and arms originate from.
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:22 PM
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Sorry, my last sentence was jargon. I should explain what I meant.
The autonomic nerves are those which govern things in the body for which we have no (or very little) voluntary control. In the context of my answer, an "afferent" means a nerve signal that's coming in, towards, the spinal cord (and thence brain). By "cord", I meant then spinal cord. "Cervical" and "thoracic" simply refer to that part of the spinal cord where the nerves to the hands and arms originate from.
IOW you are saying this is a case of 'crossed wires' and/or misdirected nerve impulses?
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:56 PM
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I'm afraid I don't know, but that reminds me of a symptom I have that is similar. Sometimes, for no reason at all, I have the sensation that my navel is attached to my pubic bone. It's an unpleasant sensation--almost painful--like a cord attached to the inside of my navel and tightly tied downward.

I've googled it and discovered that while it's not common, I'm not the only one. I haven't yet found any explanation for this sensation, though.

I assumed it was a nerve thing-- like how some nerves seem attached regardless of distance or similarity in body parts. Could this be the same thing with your "peepee fingers"?
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:57 PM
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IOW you are saying this is a case of 'crossed wires' and/or misdirected nerve impulses?
Yeah, that's a good way to look it. But, I don't think it's totally random. My hunch is that some of the nerves coming from the bladder might join up with the spinal cord around where the nerves to the arm come out from it (that is total speculation. Don't quote me, or worse, trust me).
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:11 PM
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There's a occasionally discussed scenario in which a person during orgasm can experience all sorts of unusual sensations ranging from sneezes to numb feet to a tingly scalp. The explanation, speculation typically, is the same as that posted by KarlGauss. I expect it's a very reasonable supposition that the mechanics involved in your wife's urination sensations are comparable to those others experience with sex and/or orgasm.
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:26 PM
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Although not dealing with the OP's question, this article does show that sensations originating in the bladder can be perceived as coming from somewhere quite remote from it (in this case, the knee and thigh). I haven't been able to find a cite for what would be a related phenomenon where sensations arising from the bladder lead to perceived sensations in the arm or hand.
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Old 07-06-2006, 01:02 AM
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I'm not trying to be vulgar or sexual, but everytime I masturbate, well, post masturbation my feet ache for about an hour afterwards. But it never happens after sex, weird huh?
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:02 AM
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everytime I masturbate, well, post masturbation my feet ache for about an hour afterwards.
Try using your hands instead.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:18 AM
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The OP's question has yet to be answered

And I cannot help.....I have noticed that during a catheterization....the pain was felt as multiple incividual raindrops of severe pain aimed perpendicularly toward the soles of both feet.....this occured also when the caheter was being removed..
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Old 07-06-2006, 06:47 AM
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Try using your hands instead.
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Old 07-06-2006, 10:37 AM
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Could this be the same thing with your "peepee fingers"?
This kind of complicated medical terminology flies right over my head.*

The best I can chime in with is piss shiver and other sensations when a pent up bladder is finally released.



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Old 07-06-2006, 11:12 AM
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If I push on my belly button it feels like someone is stabbing me in the bladder...actually it's more like there's someone in my bladder trying to stab his way out. Maybe that's a similar nerve thing like the peepee fingers.

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Old 07-06-2006, 11:42 AM
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...when I finally do get to "go," I have extremely painful aches in the fingers of both hands, which don't stop until I stop urinating.
Certainly I can't be the only one who upon reading this immediately thought of Allstate's slogan.
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:48 PM
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No answer, but I get a similar feeling in my fingers in the same situation.
It is similar to the feeling that I get in my fingers that can be releived by cracking my knuckles.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:17 PM
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Sometimes, for no reason at all, I have the sensation that my navel is attached to my pubic bone. It's an unpleasant sensation--almost painful--like a cord attached to the inside of my navel and tightly tied downward.
Been there, done that.
Thankfully its been a long time since the last one and hope for no more.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:18 PM
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Sometimes, for no reason at all, I have the sensation that my navel is attached to my pubic bone. It's an unpleasant sensation--almost painful--like a cord attached to the inside of my navel and tightly tied downward.
Been there, done that.

Thankfully its been a long time since the last one and hope for no more.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:27 PM
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Sometimes I have the sensation that I have six fingers on each hand. It almost rises to a body dysmorphism, except I don't think about it that often, only when mentally counting on my fingers without looking at them. Then I try to count (and move) a finger between my middle and ring fingers that doesn't exist.[/hijack]
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:21 PM
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woodflute, or James as you signed your post. I, too have the same thing going on with my fingers. I have noticed it for about a year, but it doesn't only happen when I postpone urination it happens about 90% of the time and it also is not positional, me being a woman imagine trying to figure that out (I have tried repositioning my body along with my hands and fingers). The doctor looked at me like I was joking but I got him to realize I was being serious, he checked with some other doctors and they have no clue what could be happening. It is both index fingers and sometime will travel from there around the underside of my wrists and up my arms. I have been wondering if it could be side effects of medications I am taking or if it could be something in my brain from when I had viral encephalitis in 2008.
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:50 PM
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Be advised, redatb, that this thread is pretty old, and woodflute probably isn't following it any more.

But welcome, and I hope someone has more information this time around.
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If I push on my belly button it feels like someone is stabbing me in the bladder...actually it's more like there's someone in my bladder trying to stab his way out. Maybe that's a similar nerve thing like the peepee fingers.

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Old 01-14-2018, 10:16 PM
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"I am a 40-year-old man. As long as I can remember, definately back into my preteen years, if I have to postpone urination, when I finally do get to "go," I have extremely painful aches in the fingers of both hands, which don't stop until I stop urinating."

I know the original post is nearly 12 years old, but I experience (and just moments ago experienced again) the exact same thing. Not just finger pain, but more specifically a sharp, stinging kind of ache, very intense, in the JOINTS of my fingers. Mine starts out intense but fades after 8-10 seconds.

I have a theory: I have a friend who occasionally experiences gout outbreaks, and his description of the pain is very similar. I understand that gout pain is caused when uric acid builds up in the joints and crystalizes. My non-medically trained mind tells me when my kidneys are overtaxed (bladder too full) or other conditions (I pass kidney stones more frequently than usual) then perhaps the uric acid levels increase, creating gout-like symptoms. ???? Maybe ???? Why the fingers and not toes and ankles... I don't know, Margo...

Can some medical whiz (pun intended) dispense a few drops of... wisdom on my theory?

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Old 01-14-2018, 11:13 PM
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If I am on a long drive up the Highway 5 in California after about 6 hours from Los Angles an intense pain hits my right upper incisor, so bad I have to pull over for a minute or two. It only happens on that particular route but it happens every time. I usually start the trip about the same time in the morning. This has happened my entire adult life on at least 80% of the trips
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:29 PM
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Now that is strange. Maybe it is radio waves. Open your mouth to sing, and see if you hear the radio. ( I joke). That is really a mystery.
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If I am on a long drive up the Highway 5 in California after about 6 hours from Los Angles an intense pain hits my right upper incisor, so bad I have to pull over for a minute or two. It only happens on that particular route but it happens every time. I usually start the trip about the same time in the morning. This has happened my entire adult life on at least 80% of the trips
This is just speculation, mind you, but could there be a secret government lab near that location experimenting with strange radiation that the nerves in that particular tooth are sensitive to?
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:00 AM
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Why Honeys tooth and no one else? If it is a secret government installation that could cause one persons tooth to ache, surely there would be more evidence. I mean, I am just saying.
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If I am on a long drive up the Highway 5 in California after about 6 hours from Los Angles an intense pain hits my right upper incisor, so bad I have to pull over for a minute or two. It only happens on that particular route but it happens every time. I usually start the trip about the same time in the morning. This has happened my entire adult life on at least 80% of the trips
How irritated are you with other drivers during these trips? I wonder if you're clenching your teeth or jaw without realizing it.
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If I am on a long drive up the Highway 5 in California after about 6 hours from Los Angles an intense pain hits my right upper incisor, so bad I have to pull over for a minute or two. It only happens on that particular route but it happens every time. I usually start the trip about the same time in the morning. This has happened my entire adult life on at least 80% of the trips
Does it only happen when you are driving?
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:35 PM
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Maybe it’s elevation.
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Is there a particular location along I-5 that you're always at when this happens? Six hours out of Los Angeles must put you well north of Bakersfield, but perhaps not quite as far north as Fresno. Somewhere near Harris Ranch? (HUGE cattle feed lot alongside I-5. You can't miss it, depending on which way the wind is blowing. Even airplane pilots flying over tend to remark on it.) I drive that stretch quite regularly lately.

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How irritated are you with other drivers during these trips? I wonder if you're clenching your teeth or jaw without realizing it.
I doubt it can be irritation with traffic. This is a substantially rural stretch of highway, stretching all the way from Grapevine (south of Bakersfield) all the way to Tracy (near San Francisco), usually with very light traffic, although lots of trucks.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:35 PM
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Does it only happen when you are driving?
Only happens when driving and now that those teeth have been pulled I still get the same pain. The only thing I can attribute it to is some kind of stress but I do longer drives on different routes and have never encountered this problem.
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Is there a particular location along I-5 that you're always at when this happens? Six hours out of Los Angeles must put you well north of Bakersfield, but perhaps not quite as far north as Fresno. Somewhere near Harris Ranch? (HUGE cattle feed lot alongside I-5. You can't miss it, depending on which way the wind is blowing. Even airplane pilots flying over tend to remark on it.) I drive that stretch quite regularly lately.

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I doubt it can be irritation with traffic. This is a substantially rural stretch of highway, stretching all the way from Grapevine (south of Bakersfield) all the way to Tracy (near San Francisco), usually with very light traffic, although lots of trucks.
I have noted the time but never the exact location for some reason, I believe it is about 1 hour past the ranches.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:53 PM
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Frankly, everything I've been reading in this topic seems to be in the category of psychosomatic -- mental symptoms caused by internal conflict or stress.
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