Should I teach English in Japan?

It all seemed so clear a year ago, but things have changed recently.

A year ago I had decided to apply for the JET program, except I missed the deadline. My plan was to substitute teach until I could apply again. Now the deadline is near and I would apply, except through some incredible luck I have landed a full time teaching job. I’m pretty lucky to be teaching full time as my major is music. I have the goal of saving up money to go for my masters eventually. The problem is though I really don’t want to be living where I’m living for a long time. And every day that goes by out here in this small town I feel I’m losing my musicality. My plan was to go teach in Japan and then go for my masters, though now I might hold off on it for awhile. I really want to travel but I’m so lucky to have this job! Should I just take the plunge and go?

What are your thoughts?

If your goal is to make money, I’m pretty sure you’d have better luck as an ESL teacher in Japan. I’ve heard they pay ESL teachers similarly to what they get paid in Korea (read: a lot). As an ESL teacher in Seoul, it’s possible to earn between 2500 to 4000 USD a month, possibly even more.

I should warn you, though, that teaching ESL can be boring and monotonous. I felt brain dead after 10 months of it. You’ll probably “lose your musicality” faster as an ESL teacher. You don’t get much out of it, other than the cash. On the other hand, I’ve started grad school this fall and after a month my brain’s pretty much recovered from the past year. I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

I know a couple of people who have done it. For what it’s worth, both of them seemed to have thought it was, on balance, a worthwile and generally positive experience.

My vote is to go and then write frequently about it on the boards so I can live vacariously through you.

I’ve wanted to do JET for forever 'cause I have a burning passion to learn Japanese. However, this is the last year I can apply as I’m at the age limit and I’ve found myself in a really good spot career-wise. The type of project that will make my name known in this town and could lead to much bigger and better things. If I took off now, when I returned, I’d probably be back in a cubicle and it’d be unlikely that I could find such a great project again. Plus, I have an opportunity to get inot a rapidly gentrify-ing neighborhood for a good price if I stay.

But now applying means I’ll never live in Japan and probalby never be fluent. Sigh. So, go! Live out my dream for me. :slight_smile:

And, seriously, if you’re not wild about where you’re living, I’d say it’s the perfect time to make a change.

I don’t know whether I am a good advert for JET or a bad one!

I came to Japan on the JET programme in 1991, met my future husband here in the first week (though I don’t remember that) and ended up staying here. I now own my own English school and I get a lot out of it.

As for JET - it depends what you want to put in to the job and where you are placed to a large extent. I was put in a central Board of Education office and sent to a different one of over 30 high schools every day. It was soul destroying doing self introductions day in, day out, and being ignored in the teacher’s rooms. My friends placed in either a small town or a base school did very much better socially and also for learning Japanese.

I did do long stints (like four weeks at a time) in the local blind, deaf and handicapped schools for some reason, and I made very good friends there, one of whom married my husband’s best friend, and who we are still close to even today. I also went one day a week to a school miles away from my office, but also there I made good friends which lasted a long time.

I enjoyed the challenge of getting myself around the district but I didn’t like a lot of the petty rules and the sexism (my second supervisor, one second after he met me said, " I wouldn’t let MY daughter go and work so far away." That set the tone for the rest of our time together.)

I LOVED LOVED LOVED the social life! Though as I was 25 when I arrived in Japan and had already had a couple of years in the workforce I was shocked at the slacker attitudes of a huge number of JETs. The fact that there are so many JETs means that you can always find a circle that suits you, no matter what your interests. There were some jerks but there were some seriously interesting people, too. As my Japanese circle of friends expanded (this is hard at first, if you have a sport or an interest that you can continue here it helps immeasurably) then so my life got richer.

And in terms of the teaching of English itself - I hated the way it was done in high school but saw odd incidences of truly inspired and dedicated teachers who really, really loved the language and wanted to communicate that to their students (these people were vastly outnumbered by teachers just doing their jobs, but that’s the same all over the world). I also hated being put on display all the time, but my friends who had base schools said this wore off for them and they were able to make inroads through other avenues such as sports or clubs as well as in English lessons. One friend I had set up an embroidery club - sounds dull and odd but the stuff those kids came up with (huge, dramatic murals) won prizes and got them on the TV.

The pay has not changed in the approximately 20 years that the programme is running - that is Y300,000 per month before deductions (some of which you will get back if you leave the country at the end of your contract.) After deductions including my apartment rent, I had about Y240,000 a month to live on, which was fine then, and still OK now but not a fortune. If you lived in the country and didn’t go mad you could save Y100,000 a month after the first few months of getting set up here.

I learned enough about the teaching of English to realise that I wanted to do this as a career but I wanted to do it properly, in a carefully thought out manner and under my own steam. Fifteen years, one marriage, two children and six house moves later, that it what I have achieved.

The marriage, kids, house and lifestyle are good too, and I wouldn’t change a thing.

One thing I would caution you against is that if you end up staying the three years, you might find yourself in a similar position to where I was at that point. I realised that if I went back to England I would miss Japan desperately, and it would leave a huge hole in my life. But I realised that the same could be said for my staying here. Both this country and your home country could get a grip on you and leave you torn between love for the two for the rest of your life.

On a final prosaic note, why not apply and make the decision later? So many people apply and only a few actually get on the programme, and the whole thing takes months. And if you do get on the programme and are then wavering about whether to actually go or not, then what persuaded me to jump in and do it was my friend saying “Go. Even if you hate it, you can’t possibly be miserable for 365 days straight, there’ll bound to be some good bits, and it’s only for a year.” So I went. 15 years ago. And never… came…baaaaaack!

If you are doing JET, I can point you to my friend’s blog, who is doing JET in Japan as we speak.

Blog (not mine)

4,000 US dollars a month? That high pay per month would be gained only via illegal teaching (but see below). South Korea’s Immigration department is not pleased at all when they catch people doing that and you can flush the entire illegal earnings down the toilet when you get caught–there’s a limit on how much money you can take out of the country; the limit is how much your contract says you earn in one year. In addition, you can’t leave the country until you pay the fine on top of that.

2,500 US dollars a month is attainable legally but after “paying your dues”: doing the hagweon nightmare or working a few years in the public school system.

For those who’ve obtained an F-series visa, one can earn quite a lot, even the 4 grand, doing private lessons. The problem though is that it’s quite expensive to set up the correct business site and get the appropriate licenses.

Japan, supposedly, isn’t any nicer to illegal labor than South Korea is. Teaching in either country on anything other than the correct employment visa is a bad recipe.

I echo the recommendation above of doing it properly. Why not apply and make your decision later? I lived in Japan for five and a half years and loved it.

My experience followed a very different track than Hokkaido Brit’s, but arrived at a similar location. Overall, if you really want to go to Japan, I’d say go for it, with JET or without.

I applied for JET in my senior year of college, and again the next year, and was turned down both times (had a degree from a good school, had studied the language and culture, and had ESL teaching experience, so I don’t know what else they wanted). So I sent applications to private English conversation schools and in 1995 ended up in a medium-sized city in a semi-rural area (Hamamatsu, if you’re checking a map), where I taught for about two and a half years. At that point, I still liked being in Japan, but had decided that teaching wasn’t what I wanted to do. Non-teaching jobs weren’t in great supply where I was, so I went to Tokyo to work as an ad/tech writer. In between jobs I went back to teaching and had a much better time of it than before, so although I’m now back in advertising, I’m thinking over going into business for myself as a teacher.

I don’t know much about teaching with JET, but private teaching can be very good money, especially if you work at picking up company classes. It was also very good for meeting people and making friends (foreign and Japanese), one of whom eventually became my wife. I can’t weigh it against your current job opportunities (I was a confused and directionless 23-year-old when I landed here), but if you do decide to try it, teaching in Japan can be a fantastic experience.

Btw, Hokkaido Brit, I think a co-worker of mine joined the JET program the same year you did. Do you remember a foul-mouthed screaming drunk from Boston who skipped two-thirds of the orientation meetings and showed up at the rest either completely hung over or still roaring drunk (based on what he told me of the experience)?

Aside from the “from Boston” bit, that would have been about one third of the population on any given day of the orientation! Like I said, I had been working for a while before I came, in a rather strict office where dress and punctuality was important so it horrified me. The shock soon wore off though.

As for getting on the programme, I have NO IDEA why they took me - yes I had the degree and all that but until I saw a little ad saying “Teach English in Japan” and made the phone call I had absolutely no interest in Japan. Weird, when I hear of the people who were rejected. I reckon that a huge amount of the early process is sheer luck.

Ah. To hear him tell it, everyone was either like you, or were effete japanophile snobs fresh out of college. Good to have another perspective on the matter.

A mate of mine is on the Jet scheme as a way to avoid being stuck in Belfast for any longer. He seems to like it, doesn’t have as much time/money to travel as he would have liked, but enjoys it otherwise.

It used to be (or might still be) easy to change jobs while you’re there on your visa. Not to be done apparantly but a lot of people do it.