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Old 11-30-2006, 02:18 PM
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Time for my annual "there's-only-one-U-in-nuptial" rant

It's not pronounced "nup-choo-ul," it's pronounced "nup-sh'l." One "U."

Do you say "par-choo-ul" for partial?

Do you say "ee-sen-choo-ul" for essential?

Where in hell did that secound "U" come from?
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:21 PM
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And here I thought it was going to be some faux-clever wordplay along the lines of "no I in team."

People who pronounce it nuptual are the same kind of people who say nucular.
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:26 PM
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Do you say "ee-sen-choo-ul" for essential?
I will from now on.
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:29 PM
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And here I thought it was going to be some faux-clever wordplay along the lines of "no I in team."
Me too.

Vulgar English football fans chant "There's only one F in Fulham!"
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:34 PM
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People who pronounce it nuptual are the same kind of people who say nucular.
I wish it were limited to them. But I hear virtually everyone pronounce it with the second "u" (and no, that doesn't make it right).
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:35 PM
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And here I thought it was going to be some faux-clever wordplay along the lines of "no I in team."

People who pronounce it nuptual are the same kind of people who say nucular.
I too was expecting a rant against some bridezilla playing off "no I in team."



And I'll admit that I have always pronounced it more as "nup-chu-uhl" than "nup-shul". My justification is that I didn't experience the word in print until I was an older child, after I had heard it pronounced (incorrectly) dozens of times in my life. Even now, I probably read it only once for every ten or twenty times I hear it (often incorrectly). So, this is deep in the gray matter, whether I like it or not.

But I do NOT say nucular.
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Old 11-30-2006, 03:10 PM
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(experiments with pronunciation) Nup-ti-al... nup-tial... nup...

No, you see, you're going from the high-front vowel to the low-back vowel, and unless one is being uber-uptight about it, that vowel gets stuck halfway between at the schwa.

As usual, no respect for people who complain about pronunciation.

Now, spelling on the other hand, that's a rant I can get behind.
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Old 11-30-2006, 07:30 PM
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I wish it were limited to them. But I hear virtually everyone pronounce it with the second "u" (and no, that doesn't make it right).
Yes it does.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:07 PM
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Yes it does.
Well, ok, maybe in Jersey.
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:16 AM
Jamaika a jamaikaiaké Jamaika a jamaikaiaké is offline
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Well, ok, maybe in Jersey.
Look, I've only lived in Jersey for 4.5 years. Before that it was Chicago, Budapest and Indiana. I don't understand why people think Jersey is some magical, bizarro-world just because you can't pump your own gas here.


Really, though, if virtually everyone you hear pronounces something a certain way, then that is the correct pronunciation. What other measure of correctness is there? How it is spelled? How it used to be pronounced? How you would like people to pronounce it? I don't buy any of these.
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:51 AM
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My justification is that I didn't experience the word in print until I was an older child, after I had heard it pronounced (incorrectly) dozens of times in my life.
I think OMD has got something here. I read a lot. I will read just about anything. But I think I can honestly say that I have seen this word written, probably less than 20 times in my life. It's just not one of those words which comes up often. It certainley never came up on a vocabulary or spelling test. I learned the word and it's pronounciation from my elders (a group of people recognized countrywide and possibly worldwide, for being incapable of pronouncing the most simple words - like Car). So, I'm not surprised that I learned the incorrect pronounciation.

Actually, until about 5 minutes ago, I wasn't even sure how to spell the damn word. Since it doesn't come up much in my unmarried life, I didn't give enough of a damn to look it up.

I have not and will never say nucular though. Or foilage (unless I'm being a dork on purpose).
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:46 AM
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Dood, don't have a nucular meltdown about it.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:52 AM
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Yeah, chill out. Go to the liberry or something.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:50 AM
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And, taken from another board I frequent:

There is no I in T-E-A-M
There's also no I in Felony Assault and Battery
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Old 12-01-2006, 07:13 AM
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As others have noted, this is not a word that most of us hear or see often. I have heard it pronounced in the way that offends the OP so consistently that I was surprised to see the correct spelling.
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Old 12-01-2006, 07:40 AM
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People who pronounce it nuptual are the same kind of people who say nucular.
The same folks pronounce "erudite" as "er-ie-u-dite." It's got three syllables, not four. Drives me up the wall when people insert that extraneous "ie" sound.
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Old 12-01-2006, 07:57 AM
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The same folks pronounce "erudite" as "er-ie-u-dite." It's got three syllables, not four. Drives me up the wall when people insert that extraneous "ie" sound.
They're probably the same ones who insert that same extraneous "ie" into "mischievous."
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:58 AM
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I loves me some schwa.
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:12 AM
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I think someone has had too much expresso this morning.


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Old 12-01-2006, 10:48 AM
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Still taking longer than we thought.
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:45 PM
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Well but our friends at Dictionary Com tell us that the 'mutual' pronunciation is 'not standard' but not illegal. I think it came from stretching out the chi sound to sshhhiii which lazily modulated to shu.

At any rate, it doesn't bother me nearly as much as the 'tata' syndrome; adding more 'ta's into words like orient ('orientate' - AUGH) or turning nouns into verbs: 'let's action that'. Not to mention people who have utterly lost the ability to spell 'lose' 'peek', and 'pique'.

And then theres the total misuse of apostrophes and contractions and let's not forget .....
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:58 PM
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You know, I was talking to my realator about this just last week...
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:09 PM
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Is that the local realator who used to be a famous college athalete?
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:40 PM
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Yes, it is, as a matter of fact; we were at the laundomat where he was doing his warsh.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:20 PM
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It's not pronounced "nup-choo-ul," it's pronounced "nup-sh'l." One "U."
One man's rant is another man's edification.
I've said it wrong forever. Guess I should stop knocking Bush for nuculur? Nah.
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:37 PM
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Is that the local realator who used to be a famous college athalete?
Does his wife wear alot of jewellery?
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:43 PM
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I thought it was going to be about Bridzillas.
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Old 12-03-2006, 09:45 PM
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I loves me some schwa.
It's a schwa word after all
It's a schwa word after all...
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:13 AM
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Oh man, I never knew. I thought I was a pretty smart guy too, but I guess this calls all that into question.

Well, I'm off to go flagellate myself with the old cat-o'-nine-tails. A thousand lashes should cover it, right? I'll post again in a few days when I recover.

Nuptial, nuptial, nuptial, nuptial...
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Old 12-04-2006, 01:15 AM
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You say we're all pronouncing it wrong.

I say everyone's spelling it wrong.

-FrL-
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:01 PM
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So I was the only one expecting an anti-polygamy rant?
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