Rocky Horror

[AuraSeer]

It was a bad movie the first time I saw it.

The second time it was slightly worse, and boring to boot.

If you've seen it more than twice, get a hobby.

If you dress like one of the characters and go see it every weekend, you are a pathetic loser in desperate need of a life.

That is all.

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Laugh hard; it's a long way to the bank.

[WallyM7]

A cyber dope slap to anyone who disagrees with Aura on this one.

[Chief Crunch]

I'm not a Rocky Horror fan, but why the hell would you see it a second time if you hated it so damn much?

[ChrisCTP]

Well, then you can both slap me till my monitor is bruised.

I have no idea how many times I've seen that movie, but I went faithfully every weekend from March 1992 until I actually did get a life sometime in 1997. I met my best friends (who all now have lives, themselves) and my husband (who, without me, would still not have a life) at Rocky.

I used to play Columbia. I've shouted the participation lines so many times I still wake up screaming them on occasion. I still know all the words to all the songs, including the extra stuff that was included in my 15th anniversary collection.

So what's the big deal? I got to parade around in skimpy clothes when I was still thin enough to look cute in them, and I got to marry the only guy in the place who had the bod to be Rocky.

I guess the person who has no life might be the person who's over 21 and has never been to Rocky, and who can't find anything else to do on a Saturday night. Hmmm?

I just don't know if I can like you anymore, Auraseer!



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Veni, Vidi, Visa ... I came, I saw, I bought.

[Cessandra]

Auraseer and WallyM7:
FUCK YOU

If Rocky Horror is such a crappy movie, then why is it the biggest cult phenomenon in the world, with showings and fan clubs all over the globe? Maybe you were just too uptight to join in; without audience participation there's not much point to the show.
This is my Rocky Horror Webpage For Virgins: http://www.shsu.edu/~stdmed17/RockyHome.html I think you'd better both. . . come inside, and get into the groove of RHPS.

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Cessandra

My Homepage Updated 9/28/99!
The RHPS: Website For Virgins Updated 9/28/99!

[Mojo]

Accent on "cult".

[Undead Dude]

I don't think anyone actually accused Rocky Horror of being a good movie, guys!

If either of you are MST3K fans, then perhaps you should think of some other possible subconcious reasons for the movie to not sit well with you.


But seriously, the audience makes the movie, just like the guy and the robots make MST3K. It's all a big heckle fest, but a little wilder and more fun than the average black and white Sci-Fi movie. If you didn't have a good audience, that's unfortunate. Perhaps the good audiences have faded off with time.

I can sing most of the songs from the movie but find it virtually impossible to get through them without adding the appropriate heckles aloud, even if I'm alone.

"But I've seen... much better movies blue skies"

[AuraSeer]

Chief Crunch, the second time I saw the movie was under duress. A couple of my classmates absolutely could not believe that I didn't like it, and dragged me to another showing; they kept saying things like, "It'll grow on you if you let it." Yeah, so will fungus.

Cessandra... where do I begin?

First off, you're the only person to ever call me 'uptight'. Of all the adjectives that might describe me, that's not one of them.

You say, "without audience participation, there's not much point to the show." Well, here's a news flash: there's not much point with participation, either. The problem is that everyone already knows the lines and actions, which are exactly the same every time; it's hard to get excited about any show if you always know what's going to happen next.

And FYI, I did participate my second time. Not half-heartedly either, but in full voice. This didn't add anything to the experience. (However, it did score me a few free beers afterward, from some strangers whom I'd impressed with my volume; at the top of my lungs, I was far louder than anyone else in the theater, including the film.)

Next, popularity does not necessarily indicate value or quality. The Jerry Springer show is one of the highest rated on TV, for crying out loud!

Finally, Rock Horror has only the second biggest cult following in the world. First place is held by some Jewish dude who got nailed to a tree 2000 years ago.

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Laugh hard; it's a long way to the bank.

[AuraSeer]

ChrisCTP, if you want to wear skimpy clothes, who needs an excuse? Wear what you feel like, no movies necessary.

Undead Dude, I do like MST3K. But what if every episode included the exact same movie, and they heckled it in exactly the same way each time? That would get boring very quickly, wouldn't it? It would have become exactly like... Rocky Horror! (gasp!)

[AuraSeer]

BTW, Cess: if you're going to come out and say "fuck you" in bold capital letters, why bother with the smiley? This is the Pit, so if you wanna flame me, you go right ahead.

[Temujin]

I remember doing the Time Warp ...

Tim Curry was a genius and the music kind of grows on you after a while, but otherwise you're right. As a movie, "Rocky Horror" sucked.

As an experience, however, it bears some resemblance to the SDMB, in that:
1) virgins (newbies) risk getting roasted if they don't know what they're doing;
2) participation is encouraged, but only if you follow certain rules;
3) it attracts weirdos, misfits, free-thinkers and non-thinkers; and
4) it can be habit-forming.

[ChiefScott]

One good thing I've found about RHPS, is you can get laid fairly easily if you participate.

So what if you've got croutons and rice in your hair, your getting laid.

By the way, I was a windshield wiper.

[Globe-trotter]

I only saw it on TV so I didn't get to experience it with others, but I laughed my head off. Of course, I love Tim Curry so that helped. I can't imagine someone as humourless as Tom "Pepsodent" Cruise doing that!

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Few people can be happy unless they hate some other person, nation or creed.
- Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)

[Ukulele Ike]

ChiefScott's right, as usual. I did the Rocky Horror thing when I was young, in the mid-late '70s...the best part was the air of open sexuality, the feeling that almost any combination was possible. Also, there was lots of cheap, powerful acid coming in from California at the time. Having it whang-zanging around the skull while you had a 18-year-old freshman lady swinging her legs from her perch on your lap and wearing spike heels, stockings, and suspender-belt...[scuse me while I have a warm recollective moment].

It's dispiriting that a bout of Rocky Horror may be the only time that teens and early-20s types get to HAVE that feeling, these days. So I'd hate to be a meanie about it.

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Uke

[Cessandra]

BTW, Cess: if you're going to come out and say "fuck you" in bold capital letters, why bother with the smiley? This is the Pit, so if you wanna flame me, you go right ahead.

Because I didn't mean it, Auraseer. I wasn't actually annoyed at you, and I didn't want you to become annoyed at me. If you don't like Rocky, that's fine. I still think it's fun.

[kellibelli]

I bet it would be more enjoyable on 'cid.

[WallyM7]

I'm sure the producers of this little gem get together once in a while to gloat. I just know one of them said something like:

"Can you believe it? Who would have thought this little stinker would become such a cash cow?
Instead of us entertaining them, they entertain themselves. And we charge them for it! God, I love this business!"

[DrFidelius]

One thing I found, in the early 80s, is that if you dress as Dr. Scott the theatre staff lets you get the best seat. But the wheelchair is a slight bit awkward.

Also, no one dresses as the Criminologist.

Jeez, I really was a boring old fart at a very tender age...


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Dr. Fidelius, Charlatan
Associate Curator Anomalous Paleontology, Miskatonic University
Cave ab homine unius libri

[Undead Dude]

Well, it isn't the same every time, and if you were bored the second time, you weren't bored simply due to repetition. I have certain MST3K episodes on tape, and some of them are funniest upon watching for the 5th or 6th time (like Teenagers from Outer Space and Santa conquers the Martians).

RHPS is a social event for which the movie is simply a focus. If it didn't appeal to you, mebbe it's not your social crowd. RHPS is optimized for the high school drama crowd and its alumni. If you wouldn't like that crowd IRL, then it makes sense that the RHPS wouldn't be that much fun for you.

In that regard I think it is ironic to say that the folks who dress in character have no life, because they at least have a close knit social group, and a lot of people have less life than that.

[Satan]

The whole POINT of Rocky Horror is that it's a stupid movie. Making fun of stupidity is FUN! As far as I'm concerned, I predated cultural phenomenoms like Bevis & Butthead and MST3K by years! (Light years by Hollywood standards!)

I enjoyed Rocky for years and will go again soon just to piss you nonbelievers off!!!

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Yer pal,
Satan

[Persephone]

RHPS is funny. It's funny because it's bad. The funniest thing is that it has some undeniably good actors in it, namely Susan Sarandon & Barry Bostwick. That Paul Newman as Basil the Defender syndrome.

I've only seen it a few times, but watching it is a fun thing to do after a really crappy day. Just shut off the old brain, and watch a bunch of goofy people dancing around in drag.

[neuro-trash grrrl]

I watched it for the first time on cable. I believe my response was something along the lines of "What in the great white flying fuck is this?" I watched it for the second time in the theater on Halloween. Now I know. If there is one thing I love, it's heckling movies, but if you do it in the theater, somebody usually tells you to shut up. Not this time. Oh, no. Besides, after the show I hooked up with this lovely girl, who turned out to be a guy. He thought that I was a transvestite, and was very disappointed to find out that I was the real thing. Gender confusion! I love it!

"My legs! I can't move my legs!"
"My vheels! I can't move my vheels!"
"MY SOCKS! I CAN'T MOVE MY SOCKS!"

[WallyM7]

Looks like it's just you and me, Auraseer.

You think we should maybe go and see it and try.....

No, I can't do it.

I just can't.

[Sycorax]

That's three of us now. I thought I was the only one who thought it was a bore! I do think age and audience participation thing has a lot to do with it. I have some of the songs on tape (I got it from my son, I think), and I love them, but when I watched the movie on tv a few years ago, I couldn't stay with it; enjoyed Tim Curry's big number, but got bored after that and bailed.

[Ukulele Ike]

The LSD connection always seemed obvious to my mateys and myself, addled as we were. The course of the film is like an abbreviated trip: Things start out normal, then get progressively odder. Riff Raff opening the door corresponds to that first flash of "Uh oh, I don't think we're in KANSAS any more." The Time Warp and Frank's entrance scene correspond to the peak. And by the end of the film, you feel vaguely dirty, but still with electrical tremors running through your extremities.

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Uke

[Sealemon88]

I saw it mainly in my high school days, and I haven't been to see it in about 5 years. But I did enjoy it, if for no other reason that I could shout out the foulest filth I could imagine in a public place, and get away with it.

I'll agree with Auraseer and Wally this much: Now that I'm older, the movie is something you gotta take in small doses.

But then again, it has been 5 years...

"It's beyond me..." fuck my donkey!



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You say "cheesy" like that's a BAD thing.

[Cessandra]

Ha, ha. Y'all are old.

[WallyM7]

You'll get old, too, Cess.


If we let you.


Heh heh heh.

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According to the Pope, a woman can be a saint, but not a priest.

[RTA]

Went through this months ago in MPSIMS.
Yes, the movie is an absolute and overrated stinker; the ridiculous acting out that keeps that piece of crap from its deserved obscurity is a purposeful and gender-confused rebellion against the suburbian conformity of mommy and daddy.
Seeing those kids lining up outside a theater is laughable. But few spectacles are more pathetic than a person over, say, 21 still getting excited over that nonsense.
Thankfully, it's dying. I bet that it's not shown on 5 percent of the screens it was 10-15 years ago ... and that's good.

[Ayesha]

The first time I saw the movie, I was 18. It was wierd but ok. We sat in the balcony. Then my h and I went again a few years later.
It sucked, I mean it really did. You couldn't hear because of everyone screaming out the lines. The assholes of the world united and come out to throw pop corn , and anything else they could get thier grubby little hands on including lit cigarettes, both legal and left handed ones around.

Of course now my son has got the RHPS bug.
Damn, that makes me feel old.




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Ayesha - Lioness
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[WallyM7]

That was my experience, too, Lioness.

Halfway through the movie, I suddenly felt I was all alone in the world.

I just didn't get it.

Still don't.

I even rented it once, so I could watch it in peace to figure out what I was missing.

Couldn't get through it.

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According to the Pope, a woman can be a saint, but not a priest.

I just find the movie kinda silly and juvenile, though I do like many of the performers. It strikes me as a clean-cut high-school kid's idea of "shocking."

If you wanna see the real thing, watch the early John Waters films--Mondo Trasho, Multiple Maniacs, Pink Flamingos.

[Phaedrus]

Has anybody seen my plastic duck? I wish I knew why it was so dark in here. What is that funny smell? Mom, is that you? I was thinking of a pretty cool sponge but the lemons went bad, they were all sour. Pass the toast, I'm trying to forget.

[TVeblen]

Oh, goody, a chance to diss just about everybody...

(deep breath)

It ain't a movie, it's an experience. Satan et al zeroed in on it: it's a low cunning, high camp celebration of bad taste. If you aren't in the mood, or the crowd ain't right, it's a waste of time.

But, like the Python discussion and others, the chemistry is tricky but when it works, it's sublime.

Of course, I also proudly own Plan 9 From Outer Space, Animal House, Buckaroo Banzai, the Addams family I and II, The Producers and Attack of the Killer Shrews. Hey, me and Elvira (and Stephen King); fans Le Chien Cinema. Or, it's a dog and bays at the moon but you don't even have to wrecked to laugh your ass off...IF you're in the mood for it. (Forgot Fargo, Men in Black, Manhattan....)

RHPS is just quirky, by design. The experience is so idiocyncratic it doesn't always translate.

Of course I also honked, hooted and laughed my way through rotten connections b/w Midway and O'Hare on the strength of purile dialog from "Airport"..

HAM ON FIVE! HOLD THE MAYO!

Knuckles dragging the ground,
Veb