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#1
09-08-1999, 08:31 PM
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Firstly this really isnt a flame more like a singe. I recently found this site and registered..the show was very entertaining. anyway the complaint
It seems someone was diggin a little too deep te get the gist of Role playing..the rules are subject to change but there are gajillions of them for the unimaginative..they are not necessary to play. all Role playing entails is this. You write a story..not completely..the Master or controller of the game writes the environment..histroy and all uncontollable things we encounter in any reality.. the characters are given souls...basically somone who isnt really fit could achieve his dream of being a gallant knight even if it IS only on paper. I have played quite a few different games..some lasting for years..and get so attached to the characters..i write the entire adventure iunto a novel.this is a common practice of fantasy writers. anyways....the best games i have played had no rulebooks and no statues or maps of every bathroom and pisshole on te planet... thos who liketo read would really enjoy roleplaying...youget to contorl what your favorite character does! 
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#2
09-08-1999, 08:46 PM
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Could I ask you something? I attempted to parse some meaning out of your post, but I was unsuccessful. What are you going on about? Is this in responce to an old column or to another poster here? Is it from the MPSIMS area? If so, please be more clear as to the context of your remarks, for manny of us never go to that area.
------------------ Dr. Fidelius, Charlatan Associate Curator Anomalous Paleontology, Miskatonic University Homo vult decipi; decipiatur
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#5
09-08-1999, 10:57 PM
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From the comment about "diggin a little too deep te get the gist of Role playing", I would guess Brithael is talking about either the column "What the deal with Dungeons and Dragons" ( http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_309b.html ) or the thread discussing it ( http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000163.html ) in Comments on Cecil's Columns. In either case, I couldn't find a point in the OP.
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#7
09-08-1999, 11:50 PM
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Listen to this: according to Brithael's personal info on ICQ, he's 23 years old (which may explain a bit about his apparently senseless posts, and he
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International Org.: World Domination Commitee Club/Social Org.: The Spanish Inquisition Community Org.: Redneck Cleansing Org. My guess is this guy either screwed up and posted on the wrong MB, or he's some poster's friend and is just pulling our legs. But he definitely sounds weird. We'll see.
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#8
09-09-1999, 04:57 AM
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Okay, everyone knows my bitch about bad typists and those who just ramble. But there is a point in all that. Somewhere. Perhaps I'm wrong or I see what I want to. You get the idea that somehow all fantasy writers drag up (dredge up) their ideas from roll playing games? Or some such. I think I'm close. If I'm wrong then all I can say is, "kiss my butt and call it ice-cream" because I like where I'm going and don't really care if you come along or not. Want to go with me? Then take my hand...
Fine, lets run with that. I write fantasy. I've played Dungeons and Dragons. I've been a player and a Dungeon Master (how many were shocked at my title Master? You will bow down before me!) Anyway, yes. I've gone both ways (insert comment here). Gotten story ideas from games, gotten game ideas from stories. As a writer, it's all the same. You say, I write, I say, you write and I take it for my own. It's all the same. You, none of you, on this board, can say anything that doesn't slip through my writers mind. It's all fodder for my mill. But the best times, best games, the best stories... those were ripped from someone's head. No checking the guide to hit damage, it was determined by a random roll of the die from the Master's hand. It was all up to them. What happened to me, my compatriots, the monsters. I loved that! That power and absolute final say! Okay, sugar, you who posted this mistyped and badly posted topic. You are the master of this thread. Take a deep breath, slow your fingers, post again and let me know if I even hit close... If you are typing and submitting novels even remotely close to what you type here than it's no wonder they never even got to mine after trying to read yours! Kisses all around for everyone Byz ------------------ The moon looks on many flowers, the flowers on but one moon.
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#10
09-09-1999, 09:07 AM
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Okay, I won't be so presumptions to speak for others but to me a roll playing game is one where I get to shed myself and step into another person's shoes.
I get to be a magician, a fighter, a cleric. I'm no longer me, Byzantine, I am, I become this other person. Yeah, it's a lot of fun but it isn't life! It's a chance to be another and feel things from their point of view. Everything I do, all the damage I can inflict on another is left up to the "roll" of the dice. IMHO that is where the name comes from. Yes, I walk into a roll but what ever happens to me is but the "luck of the roll". The Master calls the shots by rolling the dice. It's a fucking game. Like life in a lot of ways.... The only difference is that in the game you have the immediate outcome to your actions... in real life, as I'm in now, you have to wait and see what the outcome will be... I can just see a bunch of warped , frustrated, teeneboppers jumping all over my shit because they don't like my explanation. Again, my new young nubile friends, I invite you to "kissith my ass and call it a frozen treat". ------------------ The moon looks on many flowers, the flowers on but one moon.
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#12
09-09-1999, 09:28 AM
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A "roll" playing game? Wouldn't that be where you pretend you are a baked good similar to a muffin? Does the Pillsbury Dough Boy play "roll" playing games?
Perhaps bowling is a "roll" playing game. Or craps. Methinks you mean ROLE playing game. ------------------ "Owls will deafen us with their incessant hooting!" W. Smithers
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#14
09-09-1999, 09:49 AM
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Hey Brithael --
One word for ya, dude: "girls."
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#15
09-09-1999, 01:37 PM
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Lynn wrote:
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#16
09-09-1999, 01:53 PM
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Lynne -- Do I make amends if I say "lesbian role playing is an option for her"? Probably not, sorry. A gross and unfair assumption on my part -- pardonez moi, SVP.
Skeptic -- Hey, hey!! Hands off!!
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#17
09-09-1999, 02:19 PM
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Right!
Forgive the lateness all I will offer no excuse. for those grading my paper...please dont tell my Mum and dad. "one word Brith...Girls" yes girls are great.... <thats actually 4 words but who's counting?> And for the record...I am male. Please judge ones typing gently. You never know how many fingers someone has. OH yes Byzantine..i fully aggree.
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#18
09-09-1999, 02:42 PM
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Boy... Now I'm all full of myself. Nyah-nyah, Lynne. ::wink::
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09-10-1999, 12:20 AM
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Frankd6
Okay, just slap me and call me "up all night". Yeah, fer like duh! You nailed it... I kept calling it roll when it's role... okay, let the fun flames begin! In my own defense I have nothing but that I just skipped right over it.... but let me tell you, Frankd6.... I will remember... Oh, yes, I'll remember.... MOOOHAAAA! ------------------ The moon looks on many flowers, the flowers on but one moon.
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#22
09-10-1999, 12:20 AM
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E1Skep -- I've always made a distinction between "roleplaying" and "roll-playing," the latter being a subgenre of the former.
Roleplaying games are basically interactive storytelling, acting out the role of an imaginary character in a given setting. No scripts, no winning or losing -- just improv with some rules to provide for resolution of complex things like fights. Roll-playing, aka hack-and-slash or dungeon crawling, strips away the creative and interactive parts of roleplaying games and reduces them to "my character is a pile of statistics -- let's see how efficiently those statistics can kill imaginary monsters." The "roll" comes from rolling the dice to resolve an endless series of battles, traps, and other such frippery. One other kind of roleplaying is a little more bedroom-specific, along the lines of "The Housewife and the Poolboy," or "The Policewoman and the Male Prostitute." This also requires imagination, but everybody involved pretty much knows how it's all gonna end up.
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#23
09-10-1999, 12:30 AM
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My personal favorite is: aggressive woman forces herself on unsuspecting, innocent-acting(but he really wants it!) man, who puts up a feeble attempt to fend her off until... ooh, I have said too much!!!
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#24
09-10-1999, 12:31 AM
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ChiefScott:
{Hey Brithael -- One word for ya, dude: "girls."} I think Brithael IS a girl. I know that I am/was. Gonna be 42 this Saturday, I prefer chocolate, sapphires, and I had BETTER get Final Fantasy VIII (video RPG, comes out today, if I don't get it on Saturday my husband doesn't get any for months). Seriously, some adults play FRPGs. Even some women play. Did I ever tell you about the time I wandered into an AOL chat room titled "Fantasy Role Playing"? It was an experience, believe me. I wanted to talk about D&D, or Gemstone, or some other RPG. The people there wanted to talk about something COMPLETELY different. ------------------ Lynn the Packrat
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#25
09-10-1999, 12:36 AM
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Oh, goody, my massive mis-post is now in the dust because we're gonna get dirty... my favorite is the unsuspecting Tennessee Hippie and the Lusty Babe from Salt Lake City... well, I guess you have to be me... or him...
------------------ The moon looks on many flowers, the flowers on but one moon.
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#27
09-10-1999, 07:37 PM
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I played D&D in High School.
Then I decided that I liked female companionship too much to continue. ------------------ Brian O'Neill CMC International Records rockuniverse.com/cmc/cmc.html ICQ 35294890 AIM Scrabble1 Yahoo Messenger Brian_ONeill
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#28
09-10-1999, 09:51 PM
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In college, we had some modified rules.
"Okay, the troll has struck you. Roll a d-8 and take that many shots." "You put on the Ring of Gaseous Form? Idiot. How are you going to take it off?" The individual games didn't seem to last long, but we had some very long campaigns...
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#29
09-10-1999, 10:38 PM
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I actually played some D&D in high school,the then boyfriend was into it...and my brother did some DM ing,we played DC heroes( I believe it was called)
and that was kinda cool.
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#31
09-10-1999, 11:54 PM
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I never got into D&D, but for awhile I was playing Shadowrun with a bunch of people who were constantly at my apartment.
I remember one game in particular, we (the characters) did nothing except have sex with each other. My character, who was highly charismatic, ended up pregnant by an ugly dwarf (I was an elf/mage... 20 month gestation.) I was pissed about that, but the GM (boyfriend at the time) played favourites with me and decided that I had a clone created to take care of the pregnancy so my character could still do runs. Ah, the day. Sometimes I miss it. ------------------ Veni, Vidi, Visa ... I came, I saw, I bought.
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#33
09-11-1999, 08:36 AM
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Take your mittens off man!
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#34
09-11-1999, 08:49 AM
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I played D&D in high school. I am very much female. I still like console RPGs, and like Lynn, I am anxiously awaiting my chance to get FF8 (which unfortunately won't be happening until Christmas, I'd imagine). I am not a loser or a nerd, in fact, I get more than my fair share of attention from the opposite sex. Most of the guys I played D&D with were the same way.
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#35
09-13-1999, 01:45 AM
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Satan shared:
"I played D&D in High School. Then I decided that I liked female companionship too much to continue." Hmmmm. Couldn't think after your dick was in gear? A common male lament! SLAM! She shoots, she scores! I play games; computer, paper, board.... bedroom. It's all fun! I don't think the enjoyment of one precludes the enjoyment of the other! ------------------ The moon looks on many flowers, the flowers on but one moon.
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#37
09-13-1999, 07:25 PM
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Byz:
As amusing is your retirt, I was simply pointing out that the main participants in D&D were geeky guys, and while I certainly qualified, I had a desire to not get caught up too much in it because of the company I would enevitably keep forever as a result. It is the same line of reasoning I never became a Trekkie. But thank you for playing! We have some nice parting gifts, including Turtle Wax and Samsonite luggage!
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#38
09-14-1999, 08:06 PM
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Satan wrote:
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tracer, who knows both Warp Speed formulas.
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#39
09-15-1999, 03:15 PM
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I must have been lucky in high school. While most of us could have been considered geeks (top 5%, honour role, crap like that), there were some damn good-looking geeks in our playing group. There were times that I was the only girl, but it was rare.
College, of course, brought BattleTech, and then I was definitely the only woman playing. Then again, I was also the only female on campus to be running one of the games, too. After 20 years of playing offline, I'm still playing (D&D, Shadowrun, BattleTech), still running the occasional game, and running a few online as well. I'm also currently fighting an addiction to Baldur's Gate, and those of you that recommended it, I can't decide if I want to thank you or strangle you. Final Fantasy VII didn't do it. My husband plays it now. Oh well, I didn't really want to be using the PlayStation anyway.
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#40
09-16-1999, 12:36 AM
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Satan– man, I don't know WHO you played with but the players in my circle were anything but geeks! We had all kinds of folks, from all walks of life and all ages, who played in the games.
Sorry, but I need to swing my arm around and give myself a pat on the back here for developing some of the most popular adventures. It wasn't just monsters and treasure it was an unfolding story of why this stronghold or dungeon was mostly abandoned. People played for the story (well, and possibly the beer and chips and stuff we laid out) but I think it was more for the story. Thanks for the luggage but I wonder if your interest would have faded if you would have had better partners. Oh, well, not like you have that problem NOW or anything! Kisses all around!
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#41
09-16-1999, 04:56 PM
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Byzantine:
I not only played locally in a DC suburb in Virginia, but I went to a couple of gaming conventions as well. GEEKS! Not that I am above geekiness. Hell, I'm definitely still a geek! But every involvement I had with role playing games, the demographic was 92% male and 100% geek.
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#42
09-16-1999, 08:04 PM
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Says Satan:
"Not that I am above geekiness. Hell, I'm definitely still a geek!" I hope the anti-Christ is less of a disappointment!
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#44
10-06-1999, 06:06 AM
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what an interesting concept...geeks and role play!
and somehow you all also spell out the wrong words for what role play is. for the ones who have played the game, they know what it is, but do not nessicerally know how to explain it. tell me one thing, are actors considered geeks? no? why? are sport joks (however its spelled ) considered stupid?yes? why? the same goes for blondes, jewes, americans, and bloody well the moon too! in this world we have alot of things considered common amongst all people who have that thing in common... now may i enlighten you a bit about "role playing", its true that some people call it "roll playing", but that is when all the players do is throw dices...its not the art of the role. what it really is is acting, its a stage set in your mind where you have to exercise your imagination in the same way as writers and actors do every day. some are better at it than others...of course, who ever said all men were equal?? i just say that person was dead wrong...(dont misunderstand what im saying here). now the geek question...what do you consider a geek??.....ah...the hell with it, im going to make a thread about it..see you there bj0rn
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#45
10-06-1999, 11:51 PM
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English to German to English to Italian to English:
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"somehow you all also spell out the wrong words for what role play is."?? You should talk. Next time, try using correct (1) spelling (2) grammar (3) punctuation and (4) capitalization and perhaps you will create a post that has actual meaning, instead of a bunch of gobbeldygook.
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#46
10-07-1999, 12:01 AM
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Oh, be nice to him, Kat. He's FOREIGN. As he insists on reminding us.
"Shut up about my lack of English skills! It's my second language!" That doesn't keep your posts from SUCKING ROOT, BjOrnie. And BTW, why oh why do we keep bringing this fucking post back to the top? Brithael lives!! -andros- ------------------ "Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!" Exceptions? None! -Doc Bronner
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#47
10-07-1999, 07:42 AM
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ohh...capitalization there...just because you have a malfunctioned brain ill explain it to you in a simple language:
einfaldlega sagt, þú ert þokkalegur fáviti ef þú ert að halda því fram að allir eigi að tala fullkomna ensku bara svo að þú getir skilið hvað allir aðrir eru að segja. það er alger óþarfi að heimta það að heimska gangi fyrir því ef svo væri hefði heimurinn aldrei fundið ameríku. þetta er í mínum huga einfalt tungumál...þó að það sé í raun flóknara en enska, málfræðilega séð það er...þá skil ég nú af hverju enska hefur verið einfölduð. if you dont understand this, then its because you have a different simple language! its not my fault you are stupid... bj0rn
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#48
10-07-1999, 08:58 AM
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Ahhh, HERE we go!! Now it's the ol' BBQ Pit we know and love.
Go to your corners, and at the sound of the bell come out flaming. *DINNG* ------------------ --Da Cap'n
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#49
10-07-1999, 10:34 AM
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(beating slabs of meat in the cooler)
whiff-whiff-whiff-whiff "I'm the boss, I'm the boss, I'm the boss." "Ya gotta have the eye of the tiger, ya bum!" "Yo! . . . Adriaaan!!" -andros- ------------------ "Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!" Exceptions? None! -Doc Bronner
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#50
10-07-1999, 10:41 AM
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Chúpame, pendejo. (Oh, look! I can insult you in another language! I must be cool!) xxoo -andros- ------------------ "Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!" Exceptions? None! -Doc Bronner
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