I’m from the government and I’m here with your MMP

Just to refresh your memories and put this in perspective, I’ve been a gummint employee since I was 19 when I enlisted in the Navy. I served on active duty for about 11½ years, and come December, I’ll have been a civilian employee of the Navy for 22 years. And this past week, I was a part of something unlike anything I’d experienced in all those years.

A month or so ago, I found out I would be participating in a tabletop exercise, which is mostly a brainstorming session on potential scenarios to which a government response would likely be required. I suppose the most familiar forms would be war gaming or disaster drills, all with the aim of working out likely problems before the actual situation occurs. The scenarios we played were more in the political/economic/humanitarian aid vein.

I didn’t realize till the 4th day that what we were doing had never been done before. The organizers of the exercise brought together representatives of 7 government departments (Defense having the most members present) as well as contractors, intelligence types, and even some industry representatives. We were divided into 2 teams, with one whose regular jobs dealt generally with physical world issues and the other who worked usually in political and economic realms. Each team had a facilitator assigned – the official cat-herders – and both teams looked at the identical scenarios. There was also a “White Cell” who we could question as we needed. Sometimes they gave us specific answers (for example, regarding timelines) and sometimes they just said “Assume what you wish.”

Now, we all have heard, and many have made, comments about government employees. By and large, these comments are cynical, nasty, and based upon isolated incidents which grow into legendary status. I’m here to tell you that for four very long work days, several dozen government employees worked together, sharing knowledge, experiences, expertise, and dedication while solving several problems that are more likely to occur than not.

I can’t disclose specifics, but I can tell you that we were to prioritize what we believed would happen in each case, including worst case, and provide courses of action with Diplomatic, Economic, Military, and Legal options. Believe it or not, despite having the largest contingent from the Dept of Defense, including 6 or 7 in uniform, the Military options were always peripheral – in fact, they were hard-pressed to find realistic ways to include themselves. Still, they were throwing ideas and suggestions on the table along with everyone else.

I can only speak to my group, but the breadth of experience present at the table was impressive. No one monopolized, everyone shared, everyone listened. Our facilitator kept us from going off on tangents. Our volunteer scribe was amazing – she captured the essence of all discussions (her notes were projected on a screen in front, so we could see everything she typed), even if people were speaking over each other. If one person made a suggestion that wasn’t practical, another would explain why in a reasonable, non-condescending manner. There was discussion, there was conversation, there was even some laughter. And I was there feeling honored to be part of such a group.

I can share an edited version of one really funny moment. We were discussing the legal response to one part of a situation. Someone in the group suggest a lawsuit against the main “bad guy” (let’s call him President Unnice) and the scribe captured it as “Sue Unnice.” One of the members of the group read that out loud and said “Sue Unnice? That’s President Unnice’s sister!” OK, maybe you had to be there, but we all lost it over that one.

After lunch on day 4, both groups came together to share their solutions. It was interesting to see where we matched and where we differed. I found it especially enlightening that for the second scenario, they were far more gloom-and-doom than we were. But overall, the general consensus was very similar. The results were to be presented to some high-level folks on Friday morning, but I had already planned to leave, so I missed that part.

The bottom line is, at least on my level, government employees are serious, dedicated, intelligent, insightful, and mostly optimistic. I was proud beyond words to be part of this exercise. I am hopeful that this effort will be repeated for other situations by other organizations. It was obvious that no one group had all the answers, but combining many groups broadened the knowledge and experience base, greatly increasing the chance of coming up with a good answer to a potentially bad situation. There’s a real lesson in this. I sure hope it’ll be learned.

So, American Taxpayers, I promise you that you got more than your money’s worth last week. You had two teams and between 40-50 people total combining their brainpower to suggest a slate of actions to be applied should one or more of the very likely scenarios we studied come to pass. And none of the actions involved dropping bombs. Plus we looked at several humanitarian aid situations that fell within our scenarios – that’s where the military played the biggest part – handling the logistics of getting aid where it would be needed.

Yep, we done good. So I can truly say I’m from the government and I’m here to help.

W00t! First post!

Excellent OP, FCM, sounds like you had a really productive time. It’s great when you find a bunch of people working together and making a better job of it than you’d expect. I wish it would happen here!

Nothing much to report as yet, my spreadsheet snafu appears to have been fixed so the golf students should get registered today as long as we can get the stuff into the ftp server before 11am.

Our assistant manager leaves today, as could have been predicted Tin Knickers didn’t do anything about a presentation/party etc despite the number of times I’ve asked her. So late on Friday afternoon she suddenly decides we should have a buffet or something. Oh right. And when am I going to get this organised? We have to give the caterers at least 48hrs notice for that kind of stuff and of course we’re far too late.

So at the weekend I was shopping for banners and balloons, yesterday I baked a chocolate cake for the party and this morning I have to go and get nibbles etc from the local shop. Ho hum.

I think I need a cup of tea first.

Interesting OP, FCM, so… What did you all have for lunch those days? (Catering minds want to know.)

ScareyFaerie, too bad I wasn’t your caterer. I only need 24 hours notice most of the time. :wink: Glad to hear you got your spreadsheet program fixed.

Well, today we start a new phase in operations. We’re going to start offering Take Out at lunch time and cookies and brownies throughout the day. It should be interesting and hopefully a big hit. We need to drum up some more business to pay my soon to come legal bills. :mad: Appparently I can not rely on my father to take care of his own business and it’s now become mine. Ugh. Why oh why must men have mid life crises???

Neat and informative OP, FCM - and it’s really great to know that everyone was able to work together so nicely. Maybe some players have finally learned their lessons? We’ll see about that, I suppose … Anyway, a great experience for you!

I’m up, caffeinating, and about ready to leave for work. Yeah, I’m later than usual, but I’ll make up the time at the end of the day, I suppose. Glad to hear that your spreadsheet problem was fixed, BooFae, but sorry that you’re having to throw eats together. Hope things go well there. Good luck with your business, PurpleK
And hope everyone has a good Monday!

Go Sox! 2007 World Series Champions! Whoooo!

Sorry to hear about the upcoming legal bills, Purple One; hope the new offerings are a big hit!

And here are a few :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: for Tin Knickers.

Excellent OP, FCM. I’ve been in state government for close to 20 years. Came in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised to find very competent, nice people on the whole. I’ve worked closely with lots of private sector companies and found that, at least in my area of specialization, the ratio of bad apples is pretty much the same. So much for stereotypes.

There’s frost outside this morning (at least that’s what the radio tells me). Where’d that come from?

GT

Bluu-uuurf, yada yada yada.

FCM, having been both Civil Service and a defense contractor, I’ll echo your sentiments. Gubmint employees are almost as easy of a target as lawyers, and despite telling my share of snide remarks about both, both (mostly) don’t deserve rhe reputatuon they have. Better mark your calendars, kiddies, 'cuz I won’t say that again any time soon.

VWife is doing OK. She’s back 100% in her head, but frustrated by the helplessness she has in not being able to walk. MomTigs, Rosie, how soon should she lose the knee braces?

I spent a wonderful Saturday evening under the house running a new phone line to replace the one that went bad with the rain. Despite gaining back a few pounds from my sveltest, I still had no problem crawling through those access holes in the foundation. :cool: I could do without the land line, but I was in withdrawal from the lack of DSL.

No fires or ambulance runs. I will be doing Halloween at the fire station, which is a way cool time.

Anyone want a kitten? Ralph is driving me crazy, and I’m inundated with feral cats once more. I can give you a pacakge deal of 6…

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“knee braces”? I never had any, did you, tigs? Maybe it’s because she had both knees done at the same time - so I would imagine they’ll stay on until the PTs feel she’s safe to walk without them

Good OP there Moooooom! Yeah, the problem is the press tends to deal with only the bad stuff and ignore the mostly good stuff about gummint and heck, anything else. Doin’ good don’t sell advertisin’ after all. :rolleyes: Glad things went well.

Kid (still need to work on that nickname) hope the new stuff does good and that your legal problems resolve themselves quickly.

Yay for VunderWife becomin’ sane again BBBobbio! I’m sure BioTigs and Rosie will be along to offer her words of encouragement.

BooFae I know you’ll put together a nummy party. TinKnickers needs a swift kick in the knickers. :mad:

Why am I posting at this time you ask? Well, as I said yesterday, I spiffed up da cave last night (it’s all sparkly, shiny and clean!) but I got really sleepy and tahred so at about two a.m. I decided to allow myself a short nap. I woke up about fifteen minutes ago. Thus, I am wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide awake now when I should be gettin’ ready to go sleepy bye cause tonight is work whether I want it to be or not. Oh well, maybe I’ll get cleaned up and go do some errands this mornin’ to tire myself out again and sleep this afternoon. Have I mentioned lately that…

I HATE THIRD SHIFT!!!

Ok, off to look at some other stuff, then purtify and go run around town.

Later Y’all!

Neat OP. Around here I’ve been in a couple of day-long tabletops - usually disaster planning scenarios and I’ve always come away impressed by the free exchange of creative ideas. The last one (we don’t have to be Top Secret) was with a lot of police, local gubmint, educators and firefolks. The scenario was a report of some people walking into a school with a few guns.

Scary stuff - it was all timelined in real time. We’d get a few facts, and have X minutes to form the next step of response, etc… Right to the end of the day when we were dealing with aftermath/press/families.

I love days like today (he said sarcastically) when I have plans for the entire day, and with a 6:30 AM phone call they all get tossed right out the window.

grr

:: wanders in, bleary-eyed :: It’s already Monday?

Great OP, FCM! One of my best friends works for the government, and she’s one of the nicest and most intelligent people I know. She likes her job fairly well, but she does say that as a financial analyst it’s hard to see past the tedium of crunching numbers and remember you are working for a greater cause.

So. Sleepy. I should have gone to bed earlier last night but Cloud Maiden and I ended up talking about nothing for a good half-hour before bed.

:: falls asleep at desk ::

They’re these big foam sheets with a rod up the back side that wrap around her legs and Velcro on. When she wears them, they keep her legs from bending. She’d have them even if she went one at a time…

Good to hear this went well. (Kind of irritating that we have heard nothing about how high profile events like TOPOFF here in Portland have gove … but then I guess no one has heard how ANY of those events went.)

Do you think such a collaboration as you had in your scenario is likely in a real-world disaster? That is, (a) are people likely to be as calm and good-natured, and more importantly (b) are such a wide variety of voices likely to be included (and given weight) in a real disaster—or is one group likely to monopolize decision-making, and be more concerned with CYA than effective problem-solving?

You had government and MMP in the thread title, so I was thinking “mixed-member proportional.” I’m much too much of a politics geek sometimes.

Ugh. Well, so much for my bright and shiny Monday. I made it so far as the vet to drop off the dogs. Then I couldn’t grab one of the leashes quickly enough so I got a MAJOR ropeburn on my thumb. Well, after a car full of barking for dogs for 20 minutes on the way, that was the straw that broke the camels’ back. I started crying and haven’t really stopped yet. So, I stopped in at my shop for a couple of minutes to do the bare necessities. Now work is cancelled, I’m back home and going to go back to bed.

I hope everybody’s Monday goes better than mine.

That sounds great, FCM. It a wonderful thing to be doing something at work which is really creative, interesting, and necessary.

The cats came in to tell me to get up- they want to use the bed. So I’m awake, dressed, and trying to figure out which tasks to accomplish today, while the kitties are snoozing in the bedroom.
Regarding Idiot: mostly, when he’s pulling really stupid crap, there’s no one around higher up to discipline him, and our manager is kind of extremely afraid of confrontation anyway. He did get briefly better after being yelled at a couple of weeks ago. I just hope he’s gone before I come back.

Fascinating OP, FCM. Not being an American citizen I can’t say that I’m proud to see where my tax dollars are going (in fact, being a Canadian citizen, I can honestly say I’m not entirely sure I like where they’ve been going – or haven’t been going, as the case may be) but it’s quite interesting to see that some real work gets done when it comes to defending the country, and that it’s not all military bluster and fingers hovering nervously over large red buttons and troops deploying in droves to Upper Whatzistan in search of Osama bin Hidin’ and the al’Killya. Knowing that there’s some real thought put into what do to when this or that happens and that the first line of response is diplomacy kinda makes me think a little better of things. It must also be nice to feel like you’re participating in an important process in which you really do make a difference.

So, owing to the high Canadian dollar and the fact that she found a pretty excellent deal that we weren’t likely to find again, MindWife revealed, bought and paid for my early Christmas gift: An iPod Touch. Woohoo! I’m still unhappy about the tiny storage, but … well, I guess I’m just a big sucker for that which makes my inner geek schwing. Plus, I can jailbreak it and have all sorts of fun with it. :slight_smile: I’m a bit nervous because this was all conducted through eBay, and I’m very cautious about buying new electronics off of eBay because of the potential for fraud, but I did some fairly deep checking on this auction and the only thing that really set off any red flags was the price, being $30 less than it retails for. Everything else checked out though:

  • Seller has perfect feedback and plenty of recent transactions with no apparent lapses in activity that might indicate a hijacked account.
  • Said transactions were from a wide variety of buyers, all of whom have plenty of recent activity with other sellers
  • His most recent 3 feedbacks were from purchasers of a Touch, and those buyers are all active and show no significant lapses in activity or undue attention towards this seller’s auctions.
  • Although the seller’s past auctions show numerous 0-bidders and some new users bidding on his items (sometimes indicative of shill bidding) there’s nothing too out of the ordinary and certainly nothing I haven’t seen on tons of other sellers I’ve dealt with who were perfectly legit.
  • The auction description is pretty clear – no obfuscations or small print that might indicate a scam like the old “Xbox Box” or “picture of a…” scams, or anything in the language that suggests that it is anything other than what it says.

So … unless I’m really missing something I haven’t thought off or this is a really good scammer, it seems legit. Either way I’ll find out in a week or two when it should arrive.

(For what it’s worth, the reasons we didn’t buy domestic is because they charge C$60 more here for the Touch than in the US, despite the higher Canadian dollar, and once you add taxes and the like in, that works out to almost C$525; this way we only paid C$385 shipped, plus whatever customs will slap on it, if they do. Even if they hit it with full taxes and processing fee, that still only brings the total to $443 so we save money either way)

Anyway, for a snack I bought some spicy chili taralli (baked bread twists, kinda pretzel-like) and a cream cheese I haven’t tried before because I like dipping the taralli in the cream cheese. The cream cheese is Delicreme herb & garlic, which I thought would be a nice change from plain cream cheese. What I have just discovered is that it should be called “Garlic, garlic, garlic and herb. And garlic. With garlic, garlic oil, essence of garlic, pressed garlic, minced garlic, whole garlic cloves, garlic powder, simulated garlic flavour, and salt. And a hint of garlic.” But I guess that wouldn’t fit on the container. Honestly, there’s so much garlic in this stuff that it actually burns a little, much like eating a raw freakin’ clove would. So there is your warning for today: Delicreme Herb & Spice cream cheese is a garlic singularity and will destroy your ability to taste anything else for the rest of the day. Maybe ever. I suppose that makes the secondary warning obvious: Stay the hell upwind of me today if you want to live. (For the record I won’t be eating any more. I could barely stand the few bites I had.)

Okay, back to work.

'Ullo, all. Nice MMP–I can’t believe that any meeting was actually productive (can you tell I’ve only experienced bad meeting?).
Beautiful day here-and it frosted again last night. Thank god–it kills off all the molds and mosquitos etc.

I have to work on my resume today and go apply for a library practicum job. I’m wearing my best librarian twee blazer (are they called blazers anymore?).

Husband got a bill for his foot surgery in June. $16,000. We are responsible for $5900. He is incadescant about it and not in a good way. I’m a little peeved, too-but what can you do? Sad thing is, they only did half his foot… I say go somewhere else to get the rest done (he had plantar warts removed under general anesthesia. I thought that was excessive at the time, so did he, but acquiesed to the doctor. Hmmmph.)

Great OP, fcm! I think the majority of gummint employees want to keep this country running smoothly. It’s the goldurn poly-titians what cause trouble! :wink:

Still gray and gloomy here in Tupugville. :stuck_out_tongue: And now we have TS Noel brewing down south. BTW that’s Noel pronouced N-O-L, not the xmas viariety of N-O-E-L. What’s up with that?

Eeek, rigs! That sounds like a lot for wart removal. Crap! Both my c-sections together were less than that.

{{{purple}}}

That’s all I got for now.