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Old 11-07-2000, 07:50 PM
Guinastasia Guinastasia is offline
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Yes yes yes!!!
Two VERY important states, especially when you consider that Jeb BUSH is gov of Florida.
EAt shit, Gov. Ridge! (God, do I HATE our governor!)
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Old 11-07-2000, 07:53 PM
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Can someone explain this to me? I am looking at MSNCB web site. It says that Bush has 50% of the vote in FL and Gore has 47%. They are also saying that the absentee ballots aren't counted yet and Bush should win those.

But they are still giving FL to Gore.

Why?
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Old 11-07-2000, 07:55 PM
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Of course I meant MSNBC. Here is the link. The percentages may change. They have been up dating it.

http://www.msnbc.com/m/d2k/g/state.asp?state=FL
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Old 11-07-2000, 07:55 PM
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I cant confirm that call either.. I checked several sites including cbs and msn.
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Old 11-07-2000, 07:57 PM
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Not as much as I hate my governor- please please please let him lose.... The good news is Nader is at 2% here in Texas.
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Old 11-07-2000, 07:58 PM
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They're now projecting Michigan as another Gore win.
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Old 11-07-2000, 08:02 PM
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yes, Gore's the projected winner in MI (I believe one BIG factor was our guv "promised" the state to Bush a long time ago, pissed us off).

the reason you would see numbers like "Bush 52% Gore 48%" and Gore projected as the winner, is that they do projections considering WHERE the votes are coming in.

For example, the west side of my state is heavily republican, so, if Bush won on the west side with only a slight advantage, the city of Detroit would more than make up the difference...
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Old 11-07-2000, 08:02 PM
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Old 11-07-2000, 08:13 PM
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Bush: 153
Gore: 182

18:11:56 Pacific Standard Time.

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Old 11-07-2000, 08:14 PM
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Zumba, if you go to the exit polls, you can see why MSNBC (and others) are giving Florida to Gore. Their polls show Gore leading Bush in the popular vote about 50.5% to 46.6%. Other news services numbers have been similar.
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Old 11-07-2000, 08:16 PM
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But doesn't that mean that Bush still has a shot at FL?

The site says he (Bush) has 52% of FL now.

They keep saying Gore has FL as if it is a definate and I haven't heard why they say why/

I know that probably no one knows. But, why don't they adjust the percentages to reflect what they call?
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Old 11-07-2000, 08:42 PM
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Bush has a chance, sure, but not a large one. They probably polled close to a thousand people. That gives a margin of error of about 4%. That means that there's about a 95% chance that the actual returns will be within 4% of the percentages their poll showed. That means that, assuming their poll was unbiased, that there's about a 3% chance that Bush will win the popular vote in Florida. Add in the fact that other polls have shown similar numbers, and that reduces his chance even more.

Take the above numbers with a grain of salt. I may have gotten some of them wrong. But the gist is that, the chances of Bush winning are low enough that MSNBC is willing to stake its reputation (cough, cough) that Gore will win it. Plus, if they're wrong, they can change the web page in a flash.

As for adjusting the other numbers they show, those numbers are official returns, as counted by election officials. They're just reporting the numbers as they get them.
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Old 11-07-2000, 09:14 PM
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I'm watching the coverage on NBC and it looks like they are going to be changing their stand on Florida. The Bush 'camp' is strongly denying that Gore has taken Florida. It's really pretty close right now (10:16 est)
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Old 11-07-2000, 09:14 PM
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All the networks are now saying FL is still up for grabs. Apparently the Bush camp contested the projection.
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Old 11-07-2000, 09:18 PM
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All the networks are now saying FL is still up for grabs. Apparently the Bush camp contested the projection.
Exactly. They're basing their opinion on Bush being slightly favored by Hispanics, and the notion that Republicans had >100,000 absentee ballots going for Bush.
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