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Old 04-04-2008, 04:55 PM
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'ETA:' versus 'Edit:'

Every time I see someone type 'ETA:' in an edit I think...


"Estimated Time of Arrival"


I know exactly what they mean, but still my brain looks and says "Estimated Time of Arrival".


I use 'edit:'


Just saying.
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:39 PM
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I know exactly what they mean, but still my brain looks and says "Estimated Time of Arrival".
Not once, ever. Just sayin'.
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:44 PM
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I agree that it's not particularly obvious, and I'd never seen it on other boards, not that I hang out at many others. I use "on edit:", or nothing if it doesn't really matter.
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Old 04-05-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobsang
Every time I see someone type 'ETA:' in an edit I think...


"Estimated Time of Arrival"


I know exactly what they mean, but still my brain looks and says "Estimated Time of Arrival".


I use 'edit:'


Just saying.
Agree 100%. It doesn't help that ETA was the first acronym I ever remember learning. My dad works in the airline industry and used to work on an NHRA car in his off-time; both industries use the term frequently. I hate it for "Edited to Add" - "Edit" is one more letter and conveys meaning a lot better.

I also hate FTW for "for the win." FTW meant something very different to me until 2 or 3 years ago.
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Old 04-05-2008, 06:14 PM
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I'm guilty of using ETA. I use it because pretty much all of the message boards I've visited use it as an acronym, and I thought it was more or less standard, like LOL or OMG. I didn't think about possible confusion and have no problem using edit instead, so I'll try to remember to do that.
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Old 04-05-2008, 06:19 PM
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FTW meant something very different to me until 2 or 3 years ago.
"Fondle the Wookiee"?
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Old 04-06-2008, 01:34 AM
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"Fondle the Wookiee"?
"Fuck The World"

I read Taking Care of Business when I was 10 or 11 and thought it was a cool acronym as a rebelious youth.
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:36 AM
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Well, if one titles their edit....

it needs neither.

Last edited by picunurse; 04-06-2008 at 06:37 AM.. Reason: to finish
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:01 PM
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Well, if one titles their edit....

it needs neither.
I somewhat agree. It's mostly for when you add a sentence or paragraph, though, so people know what you added. If you're just correcting typos there's no need for it.
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:34 PM
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Well, if one titles their edit....

it needs neither.

So how do people know what you added?
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:38 PM
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I also hate FTW for "for the win." FTW meant something very different to me until 2 or 3 years ago.
Fut The Whuck?
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Old 04-06-2008, 07:11 PM
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Fut The Whuck?
See post #7
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:07 AM
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I know "Google is your friend" is obnoxious, but what do you call littering a thread with pointless Q&A on shit that isn't all that hard to frigging find on your own?

eta: not that this thread isn't a little silly. Seriously, you don't find a distinct difference in meaning between "Edit" and "edit to add"?

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Old 04-07-2008, 02:19 AM
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So how do people know what you added?
Because what I add is after the "ETA:"? I suppose, I could just start typing out "Edited to Add:" to avoid any confusion.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:32 AM
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Because what I add is after the "ETA:"? I suppose, I could just start typing out "Edited to Add:" to avoid any confusion.
That would probably be a good idea. I don't know how many times I've re-read and puzzled over posts with ETA somewhere within them. They seem to very rarely contain an exact time of arrival for the post, poster or reader thereof. It's most confusing.

All joking aside, I think "eta" should be used when you are quite technically and specifically adding a bit of text for some reason. "Edit" should be used when what you add actually modifies the context of the post. extreme eg: (in middle of a paragraph) Edit: **reading "Whatsisname's linked article makes me retract this statement**".

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Old 04-07-2008, 02:34 AM
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All joking aside, I think "eta" should be used when you are quite technically and specifically adding a bit of text for some reason. "Edit" should be used when what you add actually modifies the context of the post. extreme eg: Edit: (in middle of a paragraph)**reading "Whatsisname's linked article makes me retract this statement**".
Then, AFAIK I've been using it correctly by those standards.

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Old 04-07-2008, 02:40 AM
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Oh, yes. I agreed with your first post. That's what that "all joking aside" bit was about. I think my definitions are pretty intuitive - especially on an argumentative board like this.
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:42 AM
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I don't normally put any remark on any edit I make, becaue so far it's always been a minor typo fix or word change. But I also don't like ETA, or how everyone seems to want to indicate every edit they make when they make it. Other boards don't bother with that kind of stuff, I really don't think we need it here, even if we are mostly anally retentive sticklers for accuracy.
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:56 AM
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I know "Google is your friend" is obnoxious, but what do you call littering a thread with pointless Q&A on shit that isn't all that hard to frigging find on your own?

eta: not that this thread isn't a little silly. Seriously, you don't find a distinct difference in meaning between "Edit" and "edit to add"?
I have read this post 5 or 6 times and for the life of me I cannot figure out what you are trying to say. Can you or someone else please help me out?
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:39 PM
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Sorry, I was a little "tired" and grumpy when I wrote that. I just hate it when threads turn into acronym guessing games when a) it's already been explained and b) it's really simple and quick to just look it up yourself.
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Old 08-19-2011, 11:53 PM
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I use ETA all the time, but apparantly I just broke the cherry of a number of people who have been online for decades and had no clue what it meant, not even in context. What's amusing is that if you google it, this thread comes up third on the results list.
Tell me it's not just a Doper thing and I somehow picked it up here?
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:02 AM
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I don't normally put any remark on any edit I make, becaue so far it's always been a minor typo fix or word change. But I also don't like ETA, or how everyone seems to want to indicate every edit they make when they make it. Other boards don't bother with that kind of stuff, I really don't think we need it here, even if we are mostly anally retentive sticklers for accuracy.
I really only use it if I want to add something that relates to a post that came in after mine or while I was posting or I want to add something to my post in such a way that it's easier just to drop it in at the end then to try to reword the post in the five minute edit window. The ETA acronym is just a quick way for me to let the reader know why the last sentence seems out of place. If you really want to get annoyed look at the mafia games with all the posts that start out with NETA (Not Edited To Add).
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:10 AM
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I've started using EDIT: specifically because people complained of not knowing what ETA meant.
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Old 08-20-2011, 02:10 AM
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If you really want to get annoyed look at the mafia games with all the posts that start out with NETA (Not Edited To Add).
Some people have a real thing about posting right after themselves and want to make it clear that, at least in their mind, this second post is really just part of the first post.
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Old 08-20-2011, 02:11 AM
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I don't have this problem.
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:43 AM
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AAMOF, IIRC, the AAAAA lists 2 ETAs.
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:46 AM
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Context is everything.

ETA: There is no way this could refer to an arrival time.

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Old 08-20-2011, 08:49 AM
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I always write it out-"edited" or "edited to add". I guess I'm too old school.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:47 PM
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I read ETA as "Edited to Add", which is a statement of what happened.
I read Edit as a statement of something to do..which I obviously can't..'cause it isn't my thread.

-D/a

Last edited by Digital is the new Analog; 08-20-2011 at 12:47 PM.. Reason: ETA: We could poll the zombies and see what they think is appropriate..
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:56 PM
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Context is everything.

ETA: There is no way this could refer to an arrival time.
Exactly. When we're discussing Affirmative Action, and someone posts "AA", people generally don't mistake that for Alcoholics Anonymous.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:02 PM
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I use both, depending on the situation. I am going to post this then immediately edit to explain the difference.

Edit: Orginally the above read
I use both. I am going to post this then immediately edit to explain the difference. I just added the "depending" bit.

ETA: This is reserved for when I add a new sentence or paragraph to a post rather than changing what I had previously written.

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Old 08-20-2011, 01:50 PM
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^^^^ Prezactly. Ok, thanks for confirming I'm not just making up stuff as I go along.


ETA: It's been known to happen.
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:51 PM
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I've been wondering what ETA was for a looong time, but it never quite rose to the level of wanting to ask. Thanks for asking Lobster.


Question: What if you remove something, is that ETR?
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Old 08-20-2011, 04:31 PM
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I've been wondering what ETA was for a looong time, but it never quite rose to the level of wanting to ask. Thanks for asking Lobster.


Question: What if you remove something, is that ETR?
Now that sounds like fun!

On this board, I'd just use the area that you can fill in as to why you're editing to explain.
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:11 PM
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Now that sounds like fun!

On this board, I'd just use the area that you can fill in as to why you're editing to explain.
That field is for wisecracks. It is ONLY for wisecracks. Every time you use it in a serious fashion you make Baby Dionysus cry.

Last edited by Skald the Rhymer; 08-20-2011 at 08:12 PM.. Reason: Seriously? You can't figure it out? Well, you're clearly not drinking enough. Here, have a brewski.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:01 PM
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Quoth Joey P:
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If you really want to get annoyed look at the mafia games with all the posts that start out with NETA (Not Edited To Add).
Of course, that's largely because actual editing is often frowned upon in Mafia games, by the game moderator and/or the other players.

Last edited by Chronos; 08-20-2011 at 10:01 PM.. Reason: Skald, wasn't Dionysus more one for the wineski?
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Old 08-21-2011, 01:27 AM
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Huh....when I see ETA I always thought it meant E Tu, Uteri? which I find eminently appropriate...

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Old 08-21-2011, 05:19 PM
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I'm going to Paris on Thursday.

ETA:ETA:5 am

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Old 08-21-2011, 05:51 PM
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I'm going to Paris on Thursday.

ETA:ETA:5 am
Nicely done.


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Old 08-21-2011, 05:51 PM
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Every time I see someone type 'ETA:' in an edit I think...


"Estimated Time of Arrival"


I know exactly what they mean, but still my brain looks and says "Estimated Time of Arrival".


I use 'edit:'


Just saying.
How about just leaving it out altogether?

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So how do people know what you added?
They don't need to know. 99.9999 percent of the time it's either obvious or trivial.
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