Susan Atkins may be Released

Over here is the short version of the story.

Susan Atkins is up for a compassionate release from the California jails after serving 40 years of a life sentence* for the 1969 killing of actress Sharon Tate and her unborn child. (We popularly think of Charles Mason when we recall these murders, but it was Atkins who did the stabbing.)

She seems to be dying of brain cancer and has had a leg amputated due to an unrelated condition. At least some members of the Tate family want her to die in her cell.

What think we?

*Actually a death sentence, but the US Supreme Court ruled … all that.

How exactly is that a compassionate act? Does Atkins have anyone willing to take care of her in her last weeks? Will she have any sort of hospice care? Any opportunity to enjoy freedom? Lacking those things, the merciful part of me says that keeping her in jail and providing palliative care are the kinder things to do.

If those things are available, then I’d like to know if she ever showed remorse for her crimes. If she did, I’d consider it, but I can’t say that I’m fond of the idea. Either way, I’d rather see her die in prison.

Let her rot. She deserves nothing but contempt from society.

It’s generally more economical to let these folks die in the community. It costs a lot to die in prison, frankly. Secure hospital or even hospice units cost much more to administer than similar ones outside the walls.

If she’s no threat to anyone now, I’d argue that saving the taxpayers some money is a good reason to consider releasing her.

While I can understand your perspective,

the wishes of Sharon Tate’s family should trump any cost/compassion arguments.

And yes, I understand that prison isn’t about vengeance.

IMHO, if someone deliberately kills another person, they should never be released unless the conviction is overturned.

Still not too late for the death penalty. Barring that she should be free to walk around with the rest of us as soon as the same opportunity is afforded Sharon Tate.

Apparently Atkins became a born-again Christian in prison, but her Wikipedia entry doesn’t say much about any remorse she’s expressed.

I don’t think she should get leniency. She sure as hell didn’t show any to Sharon Tate and her unborn baby.

Hmmmm…Ted Kennedy is also dying of brain cancer, but he is not in prison.

Hmmmmmm…As inequal as it sounds, I think Susan Atkins and the rest of the Manson family should stay in prison until they die and go to hell.

Would more Americans understood that.

I’m against the death penalty but have no problem with life meaning life.

Let her die in prison. I see no reason to move her even if it does cost more money.

Give her all the pain killers she needs, leave her in her cell. She’s dying, it’s not like they’re going to change that.

The bitch was cold!

She indeed has expressed remorse. Cite- her book entitled CHILD OF SATAN, CHILD OF GOD. However, she also claimed her confession of killing Sharon Tate & her baby was bad-ass bragging, and that while she was fully guilty of complicity
in the murders, Charles Tex Watson actually did the killing. He, also a professed Christian, has vouched for her change of story. Take that for what it’s worth.

Give her proper medical treatment & keep her in prison till her life is over.

Update- just read the story- amazingly, Bugliosi has said he had no problem with compassionate release. Still doesn’t change my mind.

Is Sharon Tate still dead? Then Atkins should remain in jail.

Although I’m sure their are many valid prison conversions to Christianity, I personally think most of them are just prisoners trying to get another angle to get out/have their sentences lessened.

If prison isn’t about vengeance, then why should the wishes of Sharon Tate’s family be relevant?

-FrL-

While I don’t really know anything specific about Susan Atkins, I think this statement is just not a logical basis for running a criminal justice system. If you decided the wishes of the family of a victim trumped all cost and compassion arguments, you’d be basing sentences and parole decisions on how vengeful the family was, rather than on what’s good for society. The criminal justice system can’t just serve the victim of the specific crime, it has to serve society as a whole.

OK, this is why I seldom venture into Great Debates.

When I said that I understand that prison isn’t about vengeance, I did not mean to imply that I agreed. I just assumed that by stating the Tates’ wishes people would quickly remind me that prison is not about vengeance. As it turns out, personally I think vengeance is a very understandable component.

So, basically I said what I said to avoid debate. In Great Debates. Now, off to General Questions where I belong. :wink:

Even if they are valid conversions (to use your phrase) why should that matter in the least?