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Old 09-16-2008, 12:32 AM
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Women who’s thighs touch…can you wear skirts without chafing?

My inner thighs have always touched. I’m not overweight, my legs are just close together. All my adult life, wearing skirts when I’m going to be walking any distance is not comfortable because my thighs rub together and chafe. Recently I discovered a runners’ lubricant called Glide that helps greatly, but it would be nice to be able to just throw on a skirt and leave the house without worrying about it.

I was talking to a friend the other night who claims her thighs touch and wearing skirts just doesn’t present a problem for her. She’s very active and skirts are her attire of choice when backpacking in countries with squat toilets. It never occurred to her that some women would have issues with it. Also, women have been wearing skirts forever, long before glide was invented, presumably with some level of comfort. But I know I’m not the only woman with this problem.

So my question is, how long does it take to go from tender inner thighs to this not being an issue. If I eschew pants in all my normal activities for a week, will my skin toughen up? A month? Skirts can be really convenient and cute, and I’d wear them a lot more if this wasn’t an issue. Any tips?
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:26 AM
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This is a problem for me if I spend any extended amount of time walking around in a skirt. I normally just pull on a pair of biker shorts or wear boxer briefs when I wear long skirts and worry that might be an issue.
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:16 AM
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If I eschew pants in all my normal activities for a week, will my skin toughen up?
Why would you want tough inner-thigh skin?

I know what you mean, though. I'm a size six or eight, but what weight I do carry tends to be concentrated at the tops of my thighs, so they touch a little. It's not normally a problem, but it can be if I'm doing a lot of walking, or on an especially humid day.

Glide is great, and hardly an inconvenience. I spent a few minutes shaving my legs, I can spend ten seconds applying some Glide.

Another option is, as MissMossie mentioned, bike shorts or some sort of Spanx type garment. They've come a long way with those things. They're pretty comfortable, and they'll not only solve your chafing problem, but they'll smooth everything out under tailored skirts, and stop jiggle cold.
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:33 AM
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Pettipants? Wow. I haven't even thought of pettipants since the '60s. I agree with DianaG that a thigh-length garment is the answer, if you don't want to use Glide.
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:13 AM
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In Spain and without some sort of full pantyhose, "cyclist"-style underoos or pettypants, no. I love skirts: full skirts manage to point out where my waist is without at the same time putting up a neon sign for "here, hips" and "look, cellulite bump only it's not cellulite" (my thighs are extra-wide on the outside too, even when cellulite-free). But I can't wear them without chafing within minutes or feeling like my legs were eaten by a boa constrictor (one boa per leg).

I love Glasgow weather because here "net" pantyhose is enough. Yay! I've bought new skirts for the first time in over a decade! And I'm wearing them! Hooray!


Mom buys "summer pajamas", uses the bottom as pettypants and gives me the top to wear around the house.

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Old 09-16-2008, 09:08 AM
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I am plus sized and for a long time I avoided skirts and dresses for this very reason. I am still a big fan of bike shorts being worn underneath dresses and when my wedding day comes you can fully expect that under my floofy dress there will be a pair of shorts of some kind to prevent chafing. However, I have noticed that it isn't the thighs rubbing together that is a problem, it is the thighs sweating and rubbing together. I don't believe in wearing clothes at home so I am running around pantsless for many hours of the day and my thighs don't chafe here so my best guess is that the chafing is directly related to the sweating. A bit of baby powder on the thighs before you go out makes a world of difference (except for if you are doing something that would cause you to sweat a lot or if it is really hot out, in those situations you should probably use glide or wear shorts.)
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:26 AM
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Pantyhose really helps, which is why I will not be following the current bare-legs trend except for the most casual of situations. I second the petti-pants (which are so hard to find sometimes) or a shapewear option. It is the sweat that gets me...I currently don't have any pettipants, but I almost always wear a half slip, and sometimes find myself tucking it between my legs when things get unexpectedly bad.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:30 AM
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Ha, yeah, that would be me too (well, but I am kinda overweight). I'm fine usually, but if its hot and sweaty its a problem.

Not a suggestion, just an anecdote: I did one year of high school at a girls school with uniforms, it was actually SOP for us to wear boxer shorts under our skirts (yes, over our regular underwear). This is back when Joe Boxer just came out, it was something of a fad for girls to wear boxers as shorts and PJ bottoms. So that's what I did on non-pantyhose days. Still do, sometimes.

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Old 09-16-2008, 09:32 AM
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No, and I'm pissed about it because I cannot believe nobody has yet been able to come up with a solution to this problem. I'm moderately overweight (size 12) so it's certainly more of an issue now than when I was a size 8 in high school/college, but it's not like I'm some monstrous weight - this affects millions of women. Anyway.

Gilde? I haven't tried it and it sounds like a good idea, but I can't really believe that it survives over a long, humid day. Why has nobody managed to market a lightweight, thigh-covering undergarment? What I want is exactly like regular girls cotton bikini panties, but a "boxer briefs" version. If this exists, please please let me know where to find them - I'd wear skirts a lot more often. If I could sew, I'd make them myself. Men's boxer briefs are all the rage - when do we get ours? And no, 'boy shorts' don't count. If anything, they make the problem worse.

Right now I make do with American Apparel cotton bike shorts which are a decent compromise but still too bulky for my taste, plus I don't feel comfortable wearing them without underwear, so that's yet another layer (double-plus ungood in summer humidity). Spanx are just way too constricting and too much effort to get on, completely counter to the just-throw-it-on appeal of a skirt in the first place (though nice for special occasions). I'm not sure what patty-pants are but I imagine they are silky, nylon or the like, which results in the kind of sweat-factory I'd rather not think about. Seriously, why is this so damn hard?

The best I found was a pair of Calvin Klein yoga shorts. They are very lightweight, low-waisted, with a wide but not tight waistband. They stay put, and besides being dark brown (unfortunate for light skirts) they are invisible under clothing - no lumps and bumps! Unfortunately I only found ONE pair (at a discount store, several years ago) and could never track down anything like them since.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:56 AM
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Pettypants: a pettycoat is a light cotton skirt you wear under your skirt (normally because the skirt itself is somewhat see through), a pettypant is a light (cotton) trouser you wear under your skirt.

Pettypants have been around for a long, long time; think Victorian underwear, only it's actually been around for a lot longer. I'd link Girl Genius but can't get the proper addy at work.
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:10 AM
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Babypowder helps unless it's an exceptionally hot and sweaty day. But I've started wearing bike-short length tights that I've started seeing in the stores, and that works great!
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:18 AM
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I have seen old-fashioned sort of "trunk panties" somewhere, which might be a solution to the thigh rub problem. Speaking for myself, the only time I haven't had the thigh rub was in childhood, and I wore dresses all the time. I always wear bike shorts under my skirts and dresses now, or a bike-short style shapewear pants thing which is actually more comfortable because it's thinner and doesn't make me so warm.

I found these and these but I must warn you, they're uber-granny-panties.
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:32 AM
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Whenever I'm large, as I am now, my thighs rub together and if I'm just wearing pantyhose or if I'm bare-legged, they chafe and get red and bumpy and irritated. But I wear what I guess could be called pettipants, and they work just great. So I'm completely comfortable in skirts.
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:40 AM
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Some nylon pettipants for sale:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...ipants&x=0&y=0
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:46 AM
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My thighs have touched as far back as I can remember, but I have rarely had a problem with chafing. I wear tights a lot, so maybe that helps.

A lot of people use Anti Monkey Butt powder for chafing. I use it for prickly heat, but its primary use is for chafing.

http://www.antimonkeybutt.com/
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:47 AM
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Okay, I'm a dude, so I'm not exactly the target audience here, but I have a suggestion: have you looked into Under Armour?

I've recently started walking for weight loss purposes, and because my thighs rubbed together, the first few outings were extremely uncomfortable. I don't think the skin on inner thighs is the sort that ever "grows thicker" or becomes in any way tougher if you expose it to more abuse; in my experience, raw and red from rubbing leads only to more raw and red from rubbing.

Anyway, after that initial discomfort, I bought a few pairs of Under Armour compression shorts, to wear underneath my regular walking shorts. I know, the word "compression" sounds like you're being squeezed, but to me it feels more like a second skin. They're pretty amazing, I must say, and they're comfortable enough that I've even slept in them. To date I've bought four, two are knee-length and two hit me mid-thigh.
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:48 AM
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On warm days I use antiperspirant on my inner thighs. After putting on my undies, but before putting on my skirt, I apply a little clear gel antiperspirant, same stuff I use on my underarms. It doesn't take much, I only apply it to the first 4 inches or so, and it keeps me from chafing on all but the hottest/humidest days.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:23 AM
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Seconding the antiperspirant. Works like a charm and chances are you already have it. As long as your thighs stay dry they won't chafe.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:38 AM
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Pettypants: a pettycoat is a light cotton skirt you wear under your skirt (normally because the skirt itself is somewhat see through), a pettypant is a light (cotton) trouser you wear under your skirt.

Pettypants have been around for a long, long time; think Victorian underwear, only it's actually been around for a lot longer. I'd link Girl Genius but can't get the proper addy at work.
Here's a representative pic of pettipants: http://www.mcguireattire.com/Product...et%20sissy.jpg Mine were a lot like these.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:46 AM
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Yep, I wear some variant of that when I wear skirts (which is verging on never). Pantihose don't always help so I would wear those pettipants as well.

I'm picking up some good alternatives here though!
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Old 09-16-2008, 01:16 PM
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Third on the antiperspirant. Only takes a second and doesn't increase the laundry load.
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Old 09-16-2008, 02:37 PM
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This is my perfect solution: a "split slip" and a longer version. I love these things!!

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Old 09-16-2008, 02:37 PM
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Last year, I started a teaching job at an Orthodox Jewish school. So, no pants for me, just long skirts.

I wear anything from a size 18 to a 24 on my bottom half, and I gave up on skirts a long time ago. I had to completely revamp my wardrobe.

The first week or two was the hardest. It was hot in the building, I sweat a lot. I tried to wear pantyhose - big mistake. I had a combination chafe/prickly heat rash and was miserable.

After another few weeks, I got the hang of it.

First, if you can stand it, stop shaving the insides of your thighs. The hair there acts a bit like ball bearings. Second, don't be shy about the Glide or other silicon based skin lube. The Monistat brand worked for me. Powder didn't help after the first thirty minutes.

Pantyhose is the devil, because it traps moisture, which makes chafing worse. I took to wearing knee highs, because my skirts were long enough. I also took whatever opportunity I could get to sit at my desk and air things out.

I got to the point where I was happier going without pettipants or the equivalent. My body learned to sweat enough to lubricate, but not so much to irritate. So, if you're going to wear skirts, you're best off doing it consistently for several weeks.
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Old 09-16-2008, 02:38 PM
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Even at a size 10 my thighs chafe. These call themselves "thermal" but I've worn them in very hot climates when I had to wear a skirt.

ETA: phouka, been there and done that. My answer then was silk boxers, because it entertained me to know that I was wearing "men's clothing" under my skirts-below-the-knee getup.

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Old 09-16-2008, 11:10 PM
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I always wear shorts underneath my skirt or dress unless I'm wearing hose.

I used to get worse chafing than I do now because I have lost weight. I think once I'm thinner this won't be an issue, but you never know.
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:45 AM
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Resurrected! I've been away from the Dope a few days but I had to respond - I am truly impressed with the variety of solutions presented here, and glad that you've all managed to find good options. But, alas, few work for my particular mileage. To wit:

Pettypants, ruffled: Too bulky. I just can't imagine these under a slim skirt, and even in the most voluminous peasant skirt I don't want to feel (or look) like I'm wearing a diaper.

Pettypants, nylon: We're talking about 100 degrees with humidity here. Anything other than natural fibers is an unacceptable sweat-factory.

Split skirt: Anything that just hangs from the waist and doesn't cling to the legs is a problem in two ways. First, the waist-to-crotch seam is usually too long and my thighs rub together anyway. Second, the legs ride up and I end up with chafing AND a bunch of fabric crunched up between my legs. Sexy.

Pantyhose/tights: Pantyhose = never in my wardrobe. Sure, tights work great in the fall and winter. But I'm talking about on a hot summer day, throwing on a skirt and t-shirt and flip-flops to run errands sort of thing. Adding more layers and bulk are anathema to this.

Granny panties/thermals: Actually this is the closest I've seen yet to being the Holy Grail. But why must designers presume that if I want thigh coverage that I must also want them to go up to my chin? My skirts usually sit slightly below the belly button. Is it so absurd to want my undergarments to sit there too? If not for that, these would be perfect.

Antiperspirants/Glide: I don't use antiperspirant, but your testimonials are encouraging. This is the one I might actually try next summer. I'm still a little worried that any topical goo wouldn't work for a full day, but your posts don't lie. Picking up a roll-on is cheaper and easier than mail-ordering underwear that may or may not fit, anyway.

Still, what burns me is that I can walk into Target today and find a three-pack of practically any style cotton panty on the market - bikini, string bikini, high-waist, low-waist, thong, hipster, "boy short", stripes, solids, prints, etc. It is so completely outlandish that ONE manufacturer simply make a bikini panty with longer legs? Surely one of you creative/crafty Dopers can fill this much-needed niche? OK, so maybe my purchases won't keep a whole business afloat, but I'll be happy to test-drive your prototypes!
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:31 AM
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Last year, I started a teaching job at an Orthodox Jewish school. So, no pants for me, just long skirts.

I wear anything from a size 18 to a 24 on my bottom half, and I gave up on skirts a long time ago. I had to completely revamp my wardrobe.

The first week or two was the hardest. It was hot in the building, I sweat a lot. I tried to wear pantyhose - big mistake. I had a combination chafe/prickly heat rash and was miserable.

After another few weeks, I got the hang of it.

First, if you can stand it, stop shaving the insides of your thighs. The hair there acts a bit like ball bearings. Second, don't be shy about the Glide or other silicon based skin lube. The Monistat brand worked for me. Powder didn't help after the first thirty minutes.

Pantyhose is the devil, because it traps moisture, which makes chafing worse. I took to wearing knee highs, because my skirts were long enough. I also took whatever opportunity I could get to sit at my desk and air things out.

I got to the point where I was happier going without pettipants or the equivalent. My body learned to sweat enough to lubricate, but not so much to irritate. So, if you're going to wear skirts, you're best off doing it consistently for several weeks.
Thanks for bumping this, Rachel. I mean to respond to this post and forgot. So, Phouka, in the last paragraph you imply that now you can wear skirts without any type of aid. Is this true, or do you still need the glide/monistat?
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:57 PM
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Still, what burns me is that I can walk into Target today and find a three-pack of practically any style cotton panty on the market - bikini, string bikini, high-waist, low-waist, thong, hipster, "boy short", stripes, solids, prints, etc. It is so completely outlandish that ONE manufacturer simply make a bikini panty with longer legs? Surely one of you creative/crafty Dopers can fill this much-needed niche? OK, so maybe my purchases won't keep a whole business afloat, but I'll be happy to test-drive your prototypes!
You can get these thighshapers from Barely There. Their stuff is very lightweight, and this one, as shown in the picture looks to be a touch below the belly button. You could probably fold it down a touch with no bulking.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:22 PM
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I don't have this problem, but I wonder: would a couple of large square bandages work?
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:02 PM
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Humm - I must have very tough inner thigh skin (although no one has actually mentioned it).

I wear skirts all the time, my thighs touch somewhat (particularly in a pencil skirt), I stomp all over the place and have never noticed this.

FWIW, my skin is quite dry and I live in a very arid climite so perhaps the lack of skin oil/sweat is the key?

If that's the case I would suggest a cornstarch based dusting powder - they're great for absorbing extra moisture.
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Old 09-25-2008, 05:00 PM
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I've just been wearing men's boxer briefs. Yeah, there's a little extra room in the front that I obviously don't need, but they're really comfortable, they come in various fabrics (I like the cotton ones, but some of the others are good too.), and they are light enough to go under a summery dress/skirt without a problem.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:39 PM
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:Goes and steals some of Mr. Lissar's boxer briefs:

That's a really good idea. I have a lightweight stretchy slip I've split into a pair of shorts, but boxer briefs would work under loose skirts.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:22 AM
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You can get these thighshapers from Barely There. Their stuff is very lightweight, and this one, as shown in the picture looks to be a touch below the belly button. You could probably fold it down a touch with no bulking.
Not bad, not bad. That can't be natural fibers though right? I am suspicious of "shapewear" because of the implication that they, well, "shape" and therefore constrict. My only experience has been with Spanx, which make me feel like I'm trying on Barbie pants. If I'm going for the ease of a skirt, I don't want to put on anything that requires more effort than a pair of undies.

Slight hijack - why do they always have such skinny models in the product photos of stuff like this? These are exactly the people who don't need, want or use such items, and it just makes the product look extra-ridiculous.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:14 PM
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Thanks for bumping this, Rachel. I mean to respond to this post and forgot. So, Phouka, in the last paragraph you imply that now you can wear skirts without any type of aid. Is this true, or do you still need the glide/monistat?
Hey, sorry it took me so long to respond.

Yep. After about a month of wearing skirts every friggin' day in a hot house without ventilation, running from classroom to classroom, manhandling furniture and art supplies, I got to wear I just wore cotton panties and the skirt du jour.

I did focus on cotton skirts. I'm not big on artificial fibers. They don't feel right to me. I also lost my ladylike posture when I sat at my desk. Instead, I sat with my knees as far apart as they could go under the desk, and my skirt hiked above my knees. If I could have installed a fan down there, I would have. However, I did survive. My body adjusted its mad sweat levels, and the weather cooled down.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:48 PM
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I've been looking for pettipants but I never knew what to call them. So, thanks everyone for the links.

In the meantime, I've become a fan of shapewear. However, I usually buy a size or two too big, since what I really want is to prevent chafing and shaping is secondary. That's been great for work, but it's still too constricting to be comfortable for really casual wear. I hope the pettipants will solve that problem.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:52 PM
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Working on it

I am a designer specializing in pear shaped women's wear and I have been thinking of a solution to this problem for years.
I'm working on a pattern now.
I too live in HOT weather. I sweat like crazy, and though not nearly as bad as 50 pounds ago, I do chafe.
Slips ride up, Spanx come too high, are uncomfortable and make bulges at the top and bottom. I'd like to have something that is supper thin around the low waist and thicker in the chafing area, but either thin or non existent on the outer thigh.
That is my mission!
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:03 PM
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I am a designer specializing in pear shaped women's wear and I have been thinking of a solution to this problem for years.
I'm working on a pattern now.
I too live in HOT weather. I sweat like crazy, and though not nearly as bad as 50 pounds ago, I do chafe.
Slips ride up, Spanx come too high, are uncomfortable and make bulges at the top and bottom. I'd like to have something that is supper thin around the low waist and thicker in the chafing area, but either thin or non existent on the outer thigh.
That is my mission!
This is a bit of an old thread, but there has also been some discussion about chub rub in my recent thread about holiday clothes here, so you're welcome to join in.
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Old 05-20-2013, 01:06 PM
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I know this is a zombie, but Forever 21 has cotton "tights" that go only to mid-thigh. I wear them under my dresses and skirts to prevent anyone from getting flashed. They are breathable even in hot weather.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:27 PM
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I (a guy) have always had this problem when I sweat while running or hiking. I've found that for moderate exercise, the men's/unisex equivalent of loose fitting half-thigh long pettipants works very well, but for many hours of hiking while perspiring, snug fitting half-thigh long underpants work better, for there is less friction from fabric movement. Although silk feels nicer when dry, poly works better when perspiring, for it holds less water. For truly sodden long hikes, I apply some zinc oxide (e.g. Penaten cream) before I set off, which works wonders, but is a bit messy.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:03 PM
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Body glide or any other runner's lube - I've used it through half marathon and long weighted marches with no issues.
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:24 PM
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Any klutz can make her own pettipants. Buy a cheap nylon slip, you know the kind of silky skirt you wear under a skirt. With your sewing machine, sew a hairpin curve in the middle. Then cut the middle open . Voila, pettipants or culottes. I used to make these as gifts .
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