Stupid Republican idea of the day

[foolsguinea]

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...postcount=5699
This use of the line-item veto is brilliant, and totally deserved.

[foolsguinea]

OK, technically it's politicizing the administration of the law, and a bad thing. But I'd probably do it anyway.

[MOIDALIZE]

Eh. He did vote against it. What's wrong with taking him at his word?

[Fear Itself]

Originally Posted by foolsguinea

OK, technically it's politicizing the administration of the law, and a bad thing. But I'd probably do it anyway.

If my adversaries politicize the law, I would be a damn fool not to.

[Trion]

GOP Features Stock Photo Of Asian Children On Latino Outreach Site:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...oto/?mobile=nc

[Robot Arm]

Originally Posted by Buck Godot

It's very simple. If you give poor people money it makes them lazy but if you give rich people money it makes them work harder to create jobs.

Is that like when poor people join the Army and wind up getting killed it's a noble sacrifice for the nation, but asking rich people to pay more in taxes is class warfare and un-American?

[Punoqllads]

Originally Posted by Trion

GOP Features Stock Photo Of Asian Children On Latino Outreach Site

Psst! Post 5695.

[silenus]

Originally Posted by Punoqllads

Psst! Post 5695.

OK. You've just got to love a thread that has that kind of post in it.


BTW, where did Clothy's "Stupid Democrats" thread go? Oh, yeah. It plummeted down the pages like a paralysed peregrine.

[Trion]

Originally Posted by Punoqllads

Psst! Post 5695.

I did look! I swear! There's just so much to keep track of.

[Gyrate]

Originally Posted by silenus

BTW, where did Clothy's "Stupid Democrats" thread go? Oh, yeah. It plummeted down the pages like a paralysed peregrine.

Worse - it was "Stupid Liberals". Clothahump couldn't even get the subject line right.

I started a "Stupid Democrats" one but apart from Weiner's wiener there wasn't much else to say.

[elucidator]

"Post number 2134!"
"Yeah, that was a good one!"
"4211!"
"Har de har har...."
"1256!"....Silence.....crickets....."WTF?"
"You didn't tell it right."

[Jack Batty]

Originally Posted by elucidator

"Post number 2134!"
"Yeah, that was a good one!"
"4211!"
"Har de har har...."
"1256!"....Silence.....crickets....."WTF?"
"You didn't tell it right."

I expect a quarter on my desk in the morning.

[foolsguinea]

Originally Posted by elucidator

"Post number 2134!"
"Yeah, that was a good one!"
"4211!"
"Har de har har...."
"1256!"....Silence.....crickets....."WTF?"
"You didn't tell it right."

1256 is funny in context.

4211 is OK, I like 4213.

I didn't really laugh at 2134, but ymmv.

[BigAppleBucky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH4QfhPgio4

I suppose, given the title of this thread, one needs to assume the Tea Party is a branch of the Republican party.

The woman who told the joke has resigned her position in the group.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...tml#s=more1398

[Smapti]

Rick Scott insists that purging the voter rolls in FL is necessary to prevent fraud, and the state's means of identifying unqualified voters is sound.

Then he tells the Miami Herald that he was almost prevented from voting in 2006 because the poll supervisor told him he was deceased.

[Mighty_Girl]

they said, ‘You’re dead. You’re passed away,’” Scott said

I would have the same reaction upon looking at his visage.

[Kobal2]

Originally Posted by Mighty_Girl

I would have the same reaction upon looking at his visage.

He's just pining for the fjords.

[Steve MB]

Originally Posted by Mighty_Girl

I would have the same reaction upon looking at his visage.

My reaction was that he would have been deceased long ago, if not for his preciousss birthday present.

[elucidator]

How does he shave when he doesn't cast a reflection in a mirror?

[Fear Itself]

Hedge-fund manager and Republican candidate for U.S. Senator from Wisconsin Eric Hovde is tired of all the sob stories of people struggling in this recession and wants more focus on the debt instead:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...?utm_hp_ref=tw

Hovde made his remarks during a presentation on Friday to the Greater Brookfield Chamber of Commerce.

During the Q&A portion of the event, Hovde expressed his support for lowering the corporate tax rate, tackling the country's spending problems and lowering the national debt. Then, pointing to a reporter in the audience, Hovde said he would love to see the press stop covering sad stories about low-income individuals who can't get benefits and start covering issues like the deficit more frequently.

"I see a reporter here," he said. "I just pray that you start writing about these issues. I just pray. Stop always writing about, 'Oh, the person couldn't get, you know, their food stamps or this or that.' You know, I saw something the other day -- it's like, another sob story, and I'm like, 'But what about what's happening to the country and the country as a whole?' That's going to devastate everybody."

[Euphonious Polemic]

Ya! Stop writing about the fuckin' crybabies who can't eat, and start writing more about how another tax cut will work this time, and job creators, and how a corporate tax cut will help us all.

[Fear Itself]

Ohio Republican Congressional candidate Samuel "Joe the Plumber" Wurzelbacher links Holocaust with gun control:

In the video, Samuel Wurzelbacher loads a shotgun and fires at pieces of fruit placed on wooden posts. "In 1939, Germany established gun control," he says. "From 1939 to 1945, six million Jews and seven million others, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated." He ends the video by saying, "I love America."

[Gangster Octopus]

Originally Posted by Fear Itself

Ohio Republican Congressional candidate Samuel "Joe the Plumber" Wurzelbacher links Holocaust with gun control:

Godwinned his own campaign.

[howye]

Godwin aside, I am never all that comfortable with people who like to associate their gun obsession and the Nazis. No, guns would not have helped the Jews, they would probably have been seen as a bigger threat and the Nazi's would have acted even more aggresivly.

At least this keeps Joe occupied, he isn't going to win the election and he isn't screwing up somebody's plumbing.

[Euphonious Polemic]

Originally Posted by howye

At least this keeps Joe occupied, he isn't going to win the election and he isn't screwing up somebody's plumbing.

Is he still worried about the taxes he might hypothetically have to pay in the unlikely event that he ever becomes successful and earns enough money?

Has he learned what marginal tax rates mean yet?

[Kobal2]

Originally Posted by howye

Godwin aside, I am never all that comfortable with people who like to associate their gun obsession and the Nazis. No, guns would not have helped the Jews, they would probably have been seen as a bigger threat and the Nazi's would have acted even more aggresivly.

The Jews in the ghetto of Warsaw were well-armed with captured weapons, air-dropped weapons, smuggled weapons, self-made weapons... small arms mostly, but explosives and petrol bombs weren't uncommon either.
They got mulched all the same (thanks for all the help, Stalin !). Surprisingly, sub-machine guns don't help against artillery.

(BTW his premise is a lie, to no one's surprise. Gun control was implemented in Germany in 1928. The Nazis merely renewed the law when its expiry date came up. Cite)

[waterj2]

My faith in Joe the Plumber has been shaken. If he can be wrong, who can I possibly trust?

[SpoilerVirgin]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBucky

Racist joke at Arkansas Tea Party rally

I suppose, given the title of this thread, one needs to assume the Tea Party is a branch of the Republican party.

The woman who told the joke has resigned her position in the group.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...tml#s=more1398

The best part of this story is the response from the head of the Ozark Tea Party:

"It dawned on me that this little old lady got on stage and said a two-bit, retarded joke that she should not have said and it was all over," Caster said. (emphasis added)

Way to show your opposition to bigoted language there, pal.

[boytyperanma]

I have Eric Holder quoted as saying "The notion that this was an operation set up to do something to infringe upon the Second Amendment rights of my fellow citizens is absurd."

I assume Rep.Walberg had to have asked something pretty stupid to get that answer. Does anyone know where to find the transcript for the oversight comity hearing so Walberg's can be included in this thread.

The narrative that we sold guns to gangs in Mexico as a means to role back gun rights in America is spectacularly stupid and it would appear at least one Republican has bought into it.

[elucidator]

Oh, dear. You are in for a shock. Its worse. Far worse.

If you do the google, you can probably find Rush Limbaugh talking about exactly that, how it was a conspiracy to aggravate gun violence in Mexico so as to make the American public more willing to accept gun confiscation. He's not alone in this, by any means. Waaaay crazy.

[boytyperanma]

Originally Posted by elucidator

Oh, dear. You are in for a shock. Its worse. Far worse.

If you do the google, you can probably find Rush Limbaugh talking about exactly that, how it was a conspiracy to aggravate gun violence in Mexico so as to make the American public more willing to accept gun confiscation. He's not alone in this, by any means. Waaaay crazy.

Yeah I'm well away of the crazy out in the right wing entertainment industry but I prefer my Stupid Republican Idea's to come out of the mouths of elected Republicans.

[elucidator]

Well, I can give you Daryll Issa (R-Duh)

...They've never answered the question, "What were they thinking of?" Could it be that what they really were thinking of was in fact to use this walking of guns in order to promote an assault weapons ban. Many think so. And they haven't come up with an explanation that would cause any of us not to agree....

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-2nd-amendment

Close enough?

[elucidator]

All of this for $19.95? Great, you say, but wait! There's more!

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...iracy_abou.php

House Oversight Committee member Rep. John Mica (R-FL) took to Fox News last week to promote the conspiracy theory that the Obama administration had ATF agents let guns “walk” during Operation Fast and Furious in an effort to boost political will for enacting gun control.....

[foolsguinea]

Yeah, somehow that became the standard line. The fact that ATF is now apparently supplying weapons to mobsters in hopes they will be used in crime isn't enough for the GOP, they have to make it about a commie plot to disarm law-abiding Iowa farmers.

[Sinaptics]

Originally Posted by elucidator

All of this for $19.95? Great, you say, but wait! There's more!

Now that you've doubled the offer, where's my free gift?

[OttoDaFe]

Originally Posted by Sinaptics

Now that you've doubled the offer, where's my free gift?

If you call within the next ten minutes and use a credit card, we'll ship your SRIotD absolutely free! Operators are standing by*, so call now!!!

*Since the union was decertified, they aren't allowed to sit.

[boytyperanma]

Originally Posted by elucidator

Well, I can give you Daryll Issa (R-Duh)



http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-2nd-amendment

Close enough?

There you go that's the good stuff.

Come on now Republicans you're getting your crazy all over the place, maybe you should consider who you're voting for.

[BigAppleBucky]

Originally Posted by elucidator

Well, I can give you Daryll Issa (R-Duh)



http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-2nd-amendment

Close enough?

And here is Rachel Maddow explaining its origin. Totally batshit craziness. A wingnut blogger, who ranted about smashing windows at Democratic Party offices ("Break their windows militia guy") back in March 2010, started calling Fast and Furious a conspiracy to end the 2nd amendment. The funny thing is, inside the conservative crazy-bubble, he is totally credible.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908...show/#47898261

[kaylasdad99]

Originally Posted by foolsguinea

Yeah, somehow that became the standard line. The fact that ATF is now apparently supplying weapons to mobsters in hopes they will be used in crime isn't enough for the GOP, they have to make it about a commie plot to disarm law-abiding Iowa farmers.

Didn't Pierce Brosnan make a movie about this kind of thing in the '80s? Except it was a plot to get the USA to take the blame for an "accidental" nuclear explosion so we'd go for unilateral nuclear disarmament, or something.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Didn't F&F begin under Bush anyway?

[MOIDALIZE]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBucky

And here is Rachel Maddow explaining its origin. Totally batshit craziness. A wingnut blogger, who ranted about smashing windows at Democratic Party offices ("Break their windows militia guy") back in March 2010, started calling Fast and Furious a conspiracy to end the 2nd amendment. The funny thing is, inside the conservative crazy-bubble, he is totally credible.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908...show/#47898261

Yep, a staunchly patriotic Amurrican, who sits on his fat ass collecting SSD and rails against oppressive government.

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

Didn't F&F begin under Bush anyway?

Yep.

[Sinaptics]

Originally Posted by Really Not All That Bright

Didn't F&F begin under Bush anyway?

Not only did it, but Issa actually voted for it.

[elucidator]

As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, when I first got a hint of this "confiscation" angle, I thought to myself "OK, now the MSNBC guys have gone a bit far, this is too weird, they're not that fucking crazy!" Really did.

[Buck Godot]

Could it be that what they really were thinking of was in fact to use this walking of guns in order to promote an assault weapons ban. Many think so. And they haven't come up with an explanation that would cause any of us not to agree....

Or in other words, you can't prove that wasn't any thermite in place at the world trade center on 9/11.

[xenophon41]

Originally Posted by Sinaptics

Not only did it, but Issa actually voted for it.

Sinaptics, could you expand on this? I thought Fast & Furious, like its Bush era precursor Wide Receiver, was an ATF operation; are you saying the legislative Oversight Committee had prior approval of these executive branch* schemes?




*ATF is a Dept. of Justice bureau.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Originally Posted by Sinaptics

Not only did it, but Issa actually voted for it.

Seriously?

[Sinaptics]

Originally Posted by xenophon41

Sinaptics, could you expand on this? I thought Fast & Furious, like its Bush era precursor Wide Receiver, was an ATF operation; are you saying the legislative Oversight Committee had prior approval of these executive branch* schemes?
*ATF is a Dept. of Justice bureau.

I got my information from a KOS page, which I hate linking to, but it's properly sourced, and I'd be a bit of pain to piece it all together again here, so here's you go:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...ida-Initiative

[elucidator]

I hear you, Sinaptics, I also was reluctant to link to Kos, then I realized I had been had. I asked myself when did they lie to me, when did they steer me wrong? I let myself be conned by the whole "non-partisan" shtick, as if to be partisan was to be stupid by definition.

Mostly, what I've done is link directly to their link, which is always there. That way, no one suspects me of being a lefty partisan! Cunning rascal that I am....

[Ravenman]

I just took a quick look at the bill, and I think the linked article is way overplaying its hand.

The relevant bit of law seems to be this:

(b) Project Gunrunner Initiative-

(1) IN GENERAL- The Attorney General shall, to the extent amounts are made available to carry out this subsection pursuant to paragraph (4), use such amounts for the Project Gunrunner initiative (hereafter in this subsection referred to as the `initiative') of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to expand the resources provided to identify, investigate, and prosecute individuals involved in the trafficking of firearms across the United States-Mexico border.

(2) ACTIVITIES- In carrying out paragraph (1), the Attorney General shall--

(A) assign additional agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to the area of the United States adjacent to the United States-Mexico border to support the expansion of the initiative;

(B) establish not fewer than 1 initiative team in each State along the United States-Mexico border; and

(C) coordinate with the heads of other relevant federal law enforcement agencies and State and local law enforcement agencies to address firearms trafficking in a comprehensive manner.

One can see in hindsight how the gunwalking program might flow from this authority, but it is hard to derive specific support for gunwalking from that provision.

It's like supposing that fraud was uncovered in a defense program. Before that, Congressman A voted for the program, therefore he must have approved of the fraud. I don't think that's a reasonable conclusion.

[Sinaptics]

Originally Posted by elucidator

I hear you, Sinaptics, I also was reluctant to link to Kos, then I realized I had been had. I asked myself when did they lie to me, when did they steer me wrong? I let myself be conned by the whole "non-partisan" shtick, as if to be partisan was to be stupid by definition.

Mostly, what I've done is link directly to their link, which is always there. That way, no one suspects me of being a lefty partisan! Cunning rascal that I am....

Well, I'm not terribly happy with the commentary of the articles, but the articles themselves are good.

And I know that if someone were to link to the free republic, I'd think twice about going there. So I try to afford the same consideration.

I'll often search for different sources, but this particular article contain a bunch of different links, and bah, was just too much work to recreate.