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Old 06-28-2012, 09:32 AM
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Armed fetuses and stand your ground legislation - coming to a state near you.
Gonna make c-sections a real bitch.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:36 PM
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The crazy has gone nuclear since the ruling yesterday. The Heartland Institute:
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The president intimidated Chief Justice John Roberts like Hugo Chavez intimidates the Venezuelan Supreme Court. The rule of law is now dead. The American people have only one more chance now to save their country.
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:01 PM
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The crazy has gone nuclear since the ruling yesterday. The Heartland Institute:
Looking over other reactions on that page I start to feel sorry for S.T. Karnick. His response was intelligible, to say the least. I may disagree with his politics, but his statement is far out of line with the other statements. It's actually sane:
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As Dickens might have said, it was the best of possible outcomes for the law’s supporters, and it was the worst of possible outcomes for them. The individual mandate was upheld, but only as a tax – which makes it much easier to repeal, in procedural terms. That also makes it clear what is at the heart of Obamacare: a huge new tax on everybody. In addition, the Court found the Medicaid expansion – which is also central to the bill – cannot go forward as written. The bill was hence deemed constitutional but made thoroughly unworkable and more easily repealed.
How he must hate life, forced to work with such absolute buffoons while trying to add a legitimate conservative voice to an insane circus.
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:05 PM
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He made his bed. Let him cry himself to sleep in it.
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:12 PM
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The crazy has gone nuclear since the ruling yesterday. The Heartland Institute:
You know they mean it, they invoked the broccoli rant:
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“The majority opinion on the individual mandate, authored by Chief Justice Roberts, held that, so long as failure to comply with a government directive is penalized by something ‘reasonably’ called a tax, Congress can force Americans to buy anything. It can force Americans to do something, indeed anything, like eat broccoli.
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:37 PM
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Most people outgrow complaining about having to eat brocoli when theyre about 7 or 8. I guess we know who the GOP's main demographic is.

Watch for the next talking point, "Obama says the World Series is cancelled until America mows the lawn, finishes its homework, and each amd every citizen personally takes Bo for a walk."
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:58 PM
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The crazy has gone nuclear since the ruling yesterday. The Heartland Institute:
5 (actually more) cringe worthy statements in one link:
http://theweek.com/article/index/230...amacare-ruling

1. Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), a stalwart of the conservative movement, reportedly compared the Supreme Court's decision to 9/11

2. Pam Geller, a popular fringe conservative commentator, took her criticism of Obama's post-ruling speech to Transylvanian extremes. "Obama yapping' again — why aren't there American flags in the frame?" she tweeted. "The flag to Obama is like the [silver] cross to Dracula."

3. Republicans also dabbled in apocalyptic forecasts. "Today America is threatened with a stage three cancer of socialism," declared Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.). "When they look back on the American system of once-limited government," said Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kan.), "June 28, 2012, will stand as a definitive date in the advance of government tyranny."- Dean Clancy

4. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) - . "Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be 'constitutional' does not make it so,".

5. conservative leader Brent Bozell termed Roberts a "traitor," and dozens of conservatives called for his impeachment.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:12 PM
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Note to Scott Walker

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Romney is not going to be able to outspend President Obama by an 8 to 1 margin. He actually might lose. Therefore, don't you think it might be a wise idea to get the ball rolling on setting up your state's insurance exchange? I mean, just as a pragmatic contingency sort of thing. You know, the kind of thing good executives do every day.?

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Gov. Scott Walker wasted no time following the U.S. Supreme Court’s historic decision Thursday to uphold the Affordable Care Act before taking up national GOP talking points and saying he won’t move to implement a key portion of the law until after the November elections.

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With the court’s ruling now confirming President Obama’s health care bill as the law of the land, all states are required to have their exchanges in place by 2014.

While Walker and his state Department of Health Services secretary, Dennis Smith, said they would not advance efforts to create the state’s health exchange until after the November elections, others said the state had to implement the law, including state Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen, a Republican, at a Capitol press conference.

Walker’s predecessor, Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle, made a rare public statement after Thursday’s ruling.

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Doyle said in strong terms that it was time for leaders like Walker to acknowledge the ruling, the fact that Romney would have to win office and that at least 60 Republican votes would be needed in the U.S. Senate to repeal the law. They currently have only 47.

“Part of a person’s job is actually preparing for things that didn’t go the way they wanted them to go,” Doyle said during a conference call with reporters Thursday. “But this is a federal law. And a federal law is a federal law.”
Doyle said by the time he left office at the end of 2010, the state had developed an exchange that was “pretty much ready to go in 2014.”

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“It was very clear the industry people on the panel didn’t want the plug pulled,” says Robert Kraig, a committee member and the executive director of Citizen Action of Wisconsin, which advocates for universal health care.

Aside from Walker’s statements that he did not intend to move forward with implementing the exchanges, Doyle says the “more serious” statement being made was coming from Romney.

His political campaign released an Internet video Thursday, the message of which is “Day one. Job one. Repeal Obamacare.”

“I hope he understands there is a Congress that passes laws and those laws have to be carried out,” Doyle said of Romney’s remarks. “Congress would need 60 votes in the Senate (to repeal the law, withstanding a likely Democratic filibuster), and that’s just not going to happen.”

Doyle added that he was “frustrated” that more people who voted for the law didn’t brag about what they had done. He added that what was accomplished in health care reform was a “tremendously important step forward.”

“It is a law that years from now, after the political uproar dies down, people will wonder how we ever got along without it,” he said.
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Other Republican governors aren't so ideological. The governor of Michigan, Rick Snyder, will now move forward on a plan.

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Old 06-29-2012, 09:37 PM
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Other Republican governors aren't so ideological. The governor of Michigan, Rick Snyder, will now move forward on a plan.
Gov. Bobby Jindal is refusing to set up exchanges in Louisiana as well:
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“We’re not moving forward with the exchanges,” Jindal said. “Instead, we’re going to do everything we can to defeat President Obama, get rid of ObamaCare.”

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If the state does not want to run its own exchange, or collaborate with the feds to run it, the feds will begin setting up the exchange themselves in January.
If Jindal is serious about not implementing an exchange, the latter course is what will happen under the law, says Kathleen Stoll, the deputy executive director at the pro-Obamacare Families USA.

“If the state hasn’t moved forward, at that point, the feds have to come in to run the exchange to protect the citizens of Lousiana,” Stoll says. “The irony is that Jindal has made a choice to waste time and available federal dollars he could have used to build a state exchange uniquely tailored to his vision and the needs of the people of Louisiana.”
They've nothing else to do but stamp their foot. Pathetic.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:51 PM
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They've nothing else to do but stamp their foot. Pathetic.
I'm actually a little bit sympathetic...they have no choice, really. If they do ANYTHING but absolutely refuse to admit that anything Obama or Democrats can do or have done is legitimate, they're going to get railroaded right out of office by the insane idiots in the party base.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:51 PM
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Other Republican governors aren't so ideological.
Not so fast. Jindal is also starving for attention. Oops, I mean Taking a Principled Stand!

And managing to step on Romney's dick in the process...

"There's only one candidate, Gov. Romney, who's committed that he will repeal the Obamney - the Obamacare -- tax increase," Jindal said.

He also strayed off script: “It really raises the question of what’s next...” Jindal said ... “Taxes on people who refuse to eat tofu..."

Tofu?! C'mon Bobby it's Broccoli week! Get with the program.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:31 PM
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The insane rhetoric of 2012 makes Lewinskygate etc. now look like a bipartisan Era of Good Feelings.

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Doyle said ... that at least 60 Republican votes would be needed in the U.S. Senate to repeal the law.
50 votes. If Democrats dare to filibuster Romney on anything, I'm sure there will be shrill screams for the "remedy guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment."
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:48 PM
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Most people outgrow complaining about having to eat brocoli when theyre about 7 or 8. I guess we know who the GOP's main demographic is.
Is it this guy? Because he's one of the few (comparatively) sensible ones left in the party.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:50 PM
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Joe Walsh, the tea party congressman you may recall as a deadbeat dad, who accused American Jews of anti-semitism, and shouted at one of his constituents that her Post Office job "wasn't necessary", is now running for reelection against Lt. Col. Tammy Duckworth, an Army helicopter pilot who lost both her legs during the Iraq war.

According to Walsh, however, she's not a "true hero", because she talks about her service, unlike John McCain, who never mentioned it.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:12 PM
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4. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) - . "Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be 'constitutional' does not make it so,".
Wow...talk about Unclear on the Concept. Apparently somebody slept through high school civics class.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:59 PM
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Rand is technically correct, because in my book, a couple equals 2. Too bad it was a quintet.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:40 PM
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Joe Walsh, the tea party congressman you may recall as a deadbeat dad, who accused American Jews of anti-semitism, and shouted at one of his constituents that her Post Office job "wasn't necessary", is now running for reelection against Lt. Col. Tammy Duckworth, an Army helicopter pilot who lost both her legs during the Iraq war.

According to Walsh, however, she's not a "true hero", because she talks about her service, unlike John McCain, who never mentioned it.
In fairness, all superheroes have legs.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:47 PM
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Joe Walsh, the tea party congressman you may recall as a deadbeat dad, who accused American Jews of anti-semitism, and shouted at one of his constituents that her Post Office job "wasn't necessary", is now running for reelection against Lt. Col. Tammy Duckworth, an Army helicopter pilot who lost both her legs during the Iraq war.

According to Walsh, however, she's not a "true hero", because she talks about her service, unlike John McCain, who never mentioned it.
In fairness, all superheroes have legs.
My favorite comment from the article:
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I hope fully functional cyborg legs are developed soon so Tammy Duckworth can both walk again and kick Joe Walsh in the nuts.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:17 AM
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Well, I'm disappoint. He should have gone full Sixta and accused Duckworth of not being a true hero 'cause she (presumably?) got shot down and cost taxpayers chopper moneys. That helicoptar wa'n't yours to looose !

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Old 07-04-2012, 03:26 PM
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In fairness, all superheroes have legs.
Major Sarigar of the Alien Legion might not agree with you.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:15 PM
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I don't think he's eligible for federal office.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:29 PM
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Got see his long form spawning certificate.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:49 PM
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Got see his long form spawning certificate.
I've always wondered, is it where the egg is laid or where it hatches?
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:23 PM
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I've always wondered, is it where the egg is laid or where it hatches?
Hatches. It's the same principle as Anchor Babies.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:25 PM
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If life begins at conception, as certain factions of the party would have you believe, shouldn't citizenship depend on where the baby was conceived?
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:51 PM
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Great. Long form question:

Where were you conceived? In the back seat of my father's Pinto.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:55 PM
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If life begins at conception, as certain factions of the party would have you believe, shouldn't citizenship depend on where the baby was conceived?
So...it isn't where the egg is laid, but where the Mom is.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:16 PM
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The precise position of the ovipositor is crucial. Has to be exact.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:03 PM
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Great. Long form question:

Where were you conceived? In the back seat of my father's Pinto.
Wait. Isn't 'pinto' a Spic word? Sorry boy, back of the line!
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:52 AM
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I've always wondered, is it where the egg is laid or where it hatches?
I firmly believe life begins at nidification.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:19 PM
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Unemployment is a problem for women, too!

So Marty Golden, NY State Senator, had a solution.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...after-outrage/

Yes, a 1950's style etiquette class for women seeking jobs. That's a straight arrow to the heart of the matter!
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:11 PM
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Health care in America is so expensive because people don't die of cancer anymore.

There are not enough in the world.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:56 PM
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Florida Republican congressman tells constituent who favors a minimum wage increase to "get a job".

Because that's the problem, you know. All those unemployed minimum-wage earners.
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:18 PM
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Health care in America is so expensive because people don't die of cancer anymore.

There are not enough in the world.
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Collins, the former Erie County executive, has a history of verbal gaffes. When Collins was running for governor in 2010, he famously referred to Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver as the “antichrist.”
I wouldn't exactly cal this a "gaffe".
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:27 PM
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Major Sarigar of the Alien Legion might not agree with you.
Nor would Phantom Limb.
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:29 PM
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Health care in America is so expensive because people don't die of cancer anymore.

There are not enough in the world.
Well, the underlying point is somewhat valid: people survive diseases today that were considered untreatable 50 or even 20 years ago. The examples he chose are obviously stupid, though.
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:49 PM
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Well, the underlying point is somewhat valid: people survive diseases today that were considered untreatable 50 or even 20 years ago. The examples he chose are obviously stupid, though.
More than 39,000 people died of breast cancer in 2011. More than 33,000 (warning: PDF) people died of prostate cancer in 2011. That's more than 72,000 "nobodies" in just one year that died of cancers "nobody" dies from anymore, according to Mr. I Didn't Go To Medical School (referring to Collins, not you, RNATB)

While more people do survive cancers now, his statement that nobody dies of these cancers anymore is fucking stupid. Hence its inclusion in this thread.

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Old 07-05-2012, 03:53 PM
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Well of course they're nobodies, because they're dead. Duh!
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:54 PM
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While more people do survive cancers now, his statement that nobody dies of these cancers anymore is fucking stupid. Hence its inclusion in this thread.
I think you missed this:
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The examples he chose are obviously stupid, though.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:07 PM
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Rush is only joking when he said giving women the vote is what ruined this country. Because insulting all those sluts can make you lose your sponsors. . . for a week.
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:48 PM
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I think you missed this:
No, I got that. I just wanted to rant some more about how fucking stupid he is
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:40 PM
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A South Carolina judge has sentenced a drunk driver to do a book report on the book of Job.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:40 PM
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Dumb, sure, but is there any indication he's a Republican and not just a regular dumb ass?
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:00 PM
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Dumb, sure, but is there any indication he's a Republican and not just a regular dumb ass?
If he's a Democrat I'm Cleavon Little.

That said I don't think this is exactly a Republican stupid thing, just an evangelical stupid thing. Freaking Baptists, man.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:16 PM
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Dumb, sure, but is there any indication he's a Republican and not just a regular dumb ass?
I live here and I'd put good money down that he's Republican.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:18 PM
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There is (unfortunately ) a bit more to the story.
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After Cassandra Belle Tolley "pleaded guilty to driving drunk and crashing into a car, seriously injuring two people," Circuit Court Judge Michael Nettles late last month sentenced her to "eight years in jail followed by five years of probation and substance abuse counseling."

— Then, with Tolley's consent, he added this assignment: She "must read the Old Testament book of Job and write a summary."
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Tolley's attorney tells the newspaper his client has started working on the assignment. And Kenneth Gaines, a professor of law at the University of South Carolina, says Nettles couldn't have added that task to her sentence unless Tolley "was in entire agreement with it. ... You can't just arbitrarily add anything you want to a sentence."
...and a bit more at the link. Still screwy, but not as bad as it first appears.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:43 PM
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I live here and I'd put good money down that he's Republican.
A Rock Hill Baptist? Yea, I'd double that bet if I were you.
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:09 AM
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If he's a Democrat I'm Cleavon Little.

That said I don't think this is exactly a Republican stupid thing, just an evangelical stupid thing. Freaking Baptists, man.
In the same vein.

This is what happens when you start making exceptions to the first amendment:

Louisiana Republican: When I Voted for State Funds to go to Religious Schools, I Didn’t Mean Muslim Ones

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In Louisiana, Republican Governor Bobby Jindal pushed for a voucher program that would allow state funds to be used to pay for religious schools. It’s unconstitutional, it’s a way to use taxpayer money to fund someone’s faith, and it was a bad idea to begin with.

But it passed.

Now, one of the state legislators, Rep. Valarie Hodges (R-Watson), just made a shocking discovery, though: Christianity isn’t the only religion!

**snips**

Rep. Hodges made the mistake of saying out loud what most conservative Christians only say to themselves to private: When they say they want “religious freedom,” they’re only referring to their own faith. Everyone else can fend for themselves.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...n-muslim-ones/

The photo of her in the article reminds me of Christine O'Donnell or Sarah Palin. Maybe the three of them are distant cousins.

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Old 07-06-2012, 08:07 AM
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The photo of her in the article reminds me of Christine O'Donnell or Sarah Palin. Maybe the three of them are distant cousins.
Wow, she really does look like Sarah Palin and Christine O'Donnell had a baby.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:45 AM
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The opposition to nurturing instincts is a critical aspect of conservative ideology. Lakoff goes into it here.
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