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Old 04-07-2009, 01:49 PM
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Getting creases out of paper

I have a map that I would like to frame and hang on the wall. It's currently folded so, of course, when I unfold it there are serious creases all over it. How can I flatten those so that it'll look like a nice, flat, pristine piece of paper? Can I iron them out? Pile on books and wait? Steam them out? I don't want to practice on this particular item, altho' I suppose I could fold up something else and practice on that.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:01 PM
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I have a map that I would like to frame and hang on the wall. It's currently folded so, of course, when I unfold it there are serious creases all over it. How can I flatten those so that it'll look like a nice, flat, pristine piece of paper? Can I iron them out? Pile on books and wait? Steam them out? I don't want to practice on this particular item, altho' I suppose I could fold up something else and practice on that.
Steaming and then pressing (with evenly-distributed weights, not with an iron) will make creases and wrinkles less pronounced. Framing it behind glass will help, too. Ironing is possible but tricky, and degrades the paper, making it brittle. I'm not aware of any method to remove creases entirely, leaving the paper pristine; not even ironing.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:33 PM
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You could take it to a framing shop and have it dry-mounted. The wrinkles will probably not disappear entirely, though.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:52 PM
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Part of the problem with creases in paper is that they tend to get heavier wear than the parts of the paper inside the folds. If that happens, no amount of flattening will help - you'll still see the whitish lines where the paper has been worn.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:33 PM
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You won't get rid of the "lines" left on the map, but if your goal is to get the creases out so it lies flat you can take the creases and fold them the opposite way on the sharp 45 degree edge of a counter or table.
(I do this all day with folded up packing lists so they stack in a flat pile on my desk.)
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:07 PM
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You won't get rid of the "lines" left on the map, but if your goal is to get the creases out so it lies flat you can take the creases and fold them the opposite way on the sharp 45 degree edge of a counter or table.
Counters and tables have 45 degree edges? Almost all of the ones I've seen have 90 degree edges.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:24 PM
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Counters and tables have 45 degree edges? Almost all of the ones I've seen have 90 degree edges.
Clearly his tables are chamfered.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:30 PM
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You could take it to a framing shop and have it dry-mounted. The wrinkles will probably not disappear entirely, though.
I second this motion. I believe the dry mounting process uses heat so that helps and so does mounting in on a hard surface but a crease will never be undetectable.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:35 PM
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You could take it to a framing shop and have it dry-mounted. The wrinkles will probably not disappear entirely, though.
This may not be a good idea if it's an old or rare piece that you may want to preserve. The adhesives can seriously degrade the paper over time.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:46 PM
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You could try mounting it pressed between two pieces of glass.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:47 PM
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Nothing will get rid of them entirely. In physical terms a crease is a damaged point in the fiber integrity of the paper sheet.

The only time I have ever removed almost all of a true crease was in taking a folded map printed on 8.5 x11 standard sheet size paper and loading it into a laser printer and printing an infinitesimal dot in a super small font to get the sheet to load and print. The heat of the laser fuser and going through the laser rollers removed almost all the crease.

Scanning the map and printing it on high quality paper will also result in removing a lot of the creasing evidence. There are blueprint and engineering scanning services that can this inexpensively ($10-$15) with sheets up to 36'' x 48".

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Old 04-07-2009, 11:18 PM
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If this map is something still in print you may be able to contact the publisher. They come out of the printing press flat. They're then folded for distribution. Many items are also available flat or rolled in a tube.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:38 AM
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Counters and tables have 45 degree edges? Almost all of the ones I've seen have 90 degree edges.
Doh!

(90 degrees, 90 degrees)
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:47 PM
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Nothing will get rid of them entirely. In physical terms a crease is a damaged point in the fiber integrity of the paper sheet.
More or less correct. See the old thread What causes a crease? for a detailed explanation.

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Old 04-08-2009, 07:15 PM
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If you have a large, flat surface that you won't be using for awhile (like a unused pool table), you can do what I do.

2 panes of glass with the item between, and a bunch of heavy books evenly placed on top. Let it sit awhile, like 2 months. Helps with warping due to water, too.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:30 PM
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works for me

I papered my entire home office with old national geographic maps. Wanted to do this since I was a kid, so it was my' paid off the mortgage' gift to myself.

The trick you want is to soak the map in polyacrylic resin (available at lowes or home depot) and then after placing it on a flat surface, like a piece of posterboard, work it over with a paint roller.

It might take a little practice to keep from creating creases of your own in the process but the old ones disappear and the map is protected and pasted in one shot.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:47 PM
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thanks. this is exactly what i was looking for. i have a national geographic map i'm pretty fond of with some stubborn creases in it.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:56 PM
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..The only time I have ever removed almost all of a true crease was in taking a folded map printed on 8.5 x11 standard sheet size paper and loading it into a laser printer and printing an infinitesimal dot in a super small font to get the sheet to load and print. The heat of the laser fuser and going through the laser rollers removed almost all the crease....
This is extraordinary. Too bad you had to add your own mar; I'm sure printer and print-software types can jog a partially inactive print run.

What prompted you to go through such a severe (to me) brainstorm?
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:52 PM
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The only time I have ever removed almost all of a true crease was in taking a folded map printed on 8.5 x11 standard sheet size paper and loading it into a laser printer and printing an infinitesimal dot in a super small font to get the sheet to load and print. The heat of the laser fuser and going through the laser rollers removed almost all the crease.
Why couldn't you just "print" a space.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:00 PM
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If there is no danger of running ink wet the paper under luke water and then place it between two sheets of blotter paper and then sandwich that between to pieces of flat wood. Then clamp together with u-clamps to dry overnight. I've had amazing success with this technique on many old documents and such.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:08 PM
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Why couldn't you just "print" a space.
This is a 3-year-old zombie, but I'll answer the question anyway:

If you just print a space, the printer won't bother to heat up the fusor, because it's smart enough to know there's no toner to fuse.
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