A Question For Non-Religious Dopers

This is a question for atheist, agnostic, freethinker, secularist, or otherwise non theistic dopers.

Let us say you married someday and you had (or adopted children). Your spouse is quite religious and insists that your children be brought up in her religion. Would you approve of it?

Difficult question. Without the benefit of hindsight I’ll say that I’d try to teach the kids to make up their own minds. Id give them the Atheist viewpoint and let spouse give them the viewpoint of whatever her religion happens to be.

But I’m edging on the side of ‘no’

Can’t really see myself married to someone who is “quite religious”, though, so it wouldn’t come up.

So what would you do if you found yourself strongly attracted to someone and they turned out to be quite religious?

It’d be highly improbable that I’d be involved in a relationship with someone who was “highly religious”, or even slightly religious, I’d be looking for a female person of the Atheist persuasion

If I was in a situation as proposed by the OP, I’d lean strongly towards the “not approve” category, she’d be free to teach her beliefs to the kids, but I’d also teach the kids my take on the matter as well, and let the kids make up their own minds, hoping they make the choice of Atheism

It’s something that would have to be ironed out in advance. If the spouse comes at it from the angle of the school prayer zealots that any acknowledgement that there are other ways to view the world is anti-their-religion, there’d be no hope for the marriage anyway. I could see approaching it from a “reasonable people can disagree, here are each of our viewpoints, you are free to follow your own heart.” This is more or less what I worked out with my theist-but-not-“religious” husband, though over time I’ve dragged down his religiosity and he’s much closer to thinking about the world the way I do than he was when we married. :smiley: (Not intentionally! By example!)

I’d have no problems with baptizing, bar/bat mitzvah-ing or whatever, or really any kind of religious bringing-up, so long as it wasn’t to the exclusion of all else. And really all else, to the extent that’s possible; I wouldn’t want my particular form of atheism and their particular form of religion to be the only two options open. If my kids ended up believing, as long as it is of their own free will, then more power to them, I say. I wouldn’t want to handicap them by foisting my own ideas on them, and i’d have to hope the possible partner would be the same.

If they were interested in bringing up any kids solely in their religion, I don’t think we’d have got together in the first place - the same would be true for a similarly strident atheist.

I’m another who has a tough time answering that question. An equivocal “maybe” is about as far I can go. It would depend an awful lot on presentation and how overwhelming the religiosity was. A somewhat open-minded approach slanted towards believing in God(s), minor participation in ritual and with an occasional and respectful acknowledgment of different beliefs would probably be fine. A dogmatic, fundamentalist approach would not be.

I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

I think I have a unique viewpoint on this since it was pretty much the household I was brought up in; mother was devoutly Catholic, father is atheist. Not a rampant, get-in-your-face Atheist, just a “I don’t believe in that crap” working class kind of guy.

Me and all my siblings went to Catholic schools through sixth or eighth grade; there is no Catholic high school in our town otherwise it would have been through twelfth I’m sure. We went to church every Sunday and on holidays.

It wouldn’t bother me to let my kids be brought up in the church, because overall I think it was OK for me. The diversity of religious views (or lack thereof) at home gave me perspective on the whole thing. I figured out on my own - as did at least one other sibling - that church was not for me and by the time I was about 13 I told my mother I wasn’t going to go anymore.

I don’t think any of my siblings go to church as adults, so in that sense, my Dad’s viewpoint “won”, though he never made a big deal of it. Ironic, since we all got a healthy dose of Catholicism.

If my spouse was heavily fundamentalist, or didn’t want to let me give my views to the kids, I don’t think it would work. But I don’t think the marriage itself would work in those circumstances, so it’s probably a moot point.

I’m a recovering Catholic atheist. In the first place, I can’t imagine being attracted to a person who was very religious. Just would not happen. It would be like being attracted to Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson*. Ewwwwwwwww, the crazy, it burns.

As far as kids go: If they’re the other spouse’s by a former relationship; shut up and let them raise their kids the way they want. You should have known what the situation was before you got involved. If they’re my kids with the religious** spouse the kids get to hear both sides and decide on their own which way they roll***.

*I did like Mel when he was the Road Warrior but when I found out about his religious baggage…not so much.

**Can’t see this happening unless the spouse suddenly had an epiphany and went from secular humanist to religious after the marriage.

***Unless the spouse sweeps them away to some Jim Jonesville situation. In that case I would do whatever it takes to get them back.

It would depend on the religion I suppose.

No; but then I’d never marry someone who was “quite religious”. Or even moderately religious.

Well, I’m not sure I could “find” myself attracted to someone who turned out to be quite religious, frankly. Unless we’re talking about a superficial “attraction” that didn’t involve spending the rest of my life with someone. But the kind of deep attraction that results from shared beliefs and values would necessarily preclude a strong religious component for me.

I can’t answer the question, there are too many variables. First of all, I doubt I would marry, or even date, someone who was very religious. However, there are quite a few people I know who are, like me, culturally Jewish but not very (or at all) religious. If I married someone like that who wanted our imaginary kids to be raised in a liberal synagogue, I’d be okay with that, simply for the sake of passing on our cultural heritage.

Any other religion would probably be off limits for me.

It’s already happening. My wife is a liberal Catholic, so it’s not like there’s a lot of clash. They’re baptized, go to mass, go to Catholic school. It honestly doesn’t bother me.

I would only be OK with it if the child was exposed to many different religions as well as the atheist viewpoint. That way they can decide what is right for them. I was not raised with any religion and at times I regret not knowing religious stories, since they are referenced from time to time. So at least a cursery knowledge of religion can be benificial.

My husband has stated that he wants our child to go to church when she gets older. I said that was fine, but I was not going, and any religious education would be on his shoulders. Knowing how much he hates leaving the house, has not gone to church since he was 13, and doesn’t get out of bed until he absolutely has to, our daughter will not be going to church anytime soon. :stuck_out_tongue:

No, that would be a deal breaker. I would divorce and try to get custody of my kids before I would agree to that. I would probably lose in court, though.

Realistically, though, we would have had this discussion before having kids.

If I could presume to answer this for myself, if I found out that someone was religious, it would be a huge turn off for me and would change the way I saw that person.

A much more difficult question for me would be how would I react if my wife of 8 years and co-atheist started becoming religious? This would be tough, I’d try to be understanding, but if we had kids I could see some pretty serious conflicts looming.

My sister in law dog sat for us once and got our dog blessed by her priest, and that pissed me off.

Why? It didn’t harm anyone in any way.

My son went to Catholic Schools from grade school thru college. he is a nonbeliever. The best mind control does not always work.