My stalker

I play music as a hobby. At one restaurant I play regularly, a guy started hanging around me about a year ago. We’ll call him M. M is 26 years old. He still lives with his parents. He got his first job last year, as a part-time cashier. He spent the previous six years earning an associates degree in general studies at the local community college (which, if you do the math, means he took about one class at a time, for the whole six years).

You might think with such a history that he’s mentally challenged. But he appears to be of average intelligence. He’s just *incredibly *lazy. When he said that he played harmonica and expressed an interest in learning more, I loaned him some instructional materials. He never cracked them open, not once, in the six months he held on to them. He never practices, and is still limited to the one or two licks he could play, very poorly, a year ago. He is, however, always pestering me to let him sit in. I’m too polite to be more honest with him (as are most people at the restaurant), so he has no clue how bad he sounds.

Several people who’ve observed him say he may suffer from some form of Asperger’s Syndrome. He will follow me so closely that he’s almost crashed into me a couple of times. If I get up to walk 10 feet to flip a light switch, he will tag along. The other night, I returned a cart to the grocery store next door that someone had left in front of the restaurant. When I came back, he was waiting in the doorway, announcing that he’d “needed some air”. Once I went to the bathroom, and he came in while I was at the urinal, assuring me, “It’s OK, I had to go too”. (And those aren’t the worst things he’s done!)

I get the impression that his parents over-accomodate out of sympathy for his social intelligence disabilities (I’ve met the father, who seemed like a reasonable guy, so I suspect the mother is overly protective). While understandable, it doesn’t seem like the best thing for M. He is milking their lenience for all it’s worth. He puts in his grueling 16-hour weeks and spends the rest of his time watching TV and playing video games. And eating. That’s another obvious problem M has: he is really overweight, does no exercise and eats a horrific diet. He will often eat a second dinner at the restaurant after eating dinner at home. I know that his health is none of my business, but he’s always telling me that he wishes he could lose weight. My suggestions that he should eat less and exercise a little are politely ignored. He was talking recently about asking his doctor for weight-loss drugs.

M is basically living the way I did when I was 12 years old and on summer vacation. Remember the sitcom, “Get a Life”, which starred Chris Elliot as a 30-year old paperboy who still lived at home? M makes that guy look like a human dynamo.

Why do I give two hoots about M?

First, I feel like an enabler: I actually regret encouraging him to play an instrument, when I honestly feel like he has more important things to focus on, like losing some weight or getting trained for a better job. And yes, I had thought that learning harmonica might have given him confidence to tackle more substantive things. But he doesn’t seem to want to actually learn anything. He’s content just being able to tell people that he’s a musician, and thinks that the efforts he’s made are sufficient. He only plays when there are people around, which wouldn’t be so bad if he could actually play. He once asked the owner if he could substitute for me when I was away for a week. The owner was about to laugh in his face, but I stepped in and explained to M that harmonica isn’t really a solo instrument, so an unaccompanied harmonica player can’t handle a three-hour gig on his own.

Which leads to the second reason: his insistence on squeaking on his harmonicas is getting to be a pain. One bartender (a retired MP who doesn’t mince words) once told him to “put the fuckin’ harmonicas away” while I was playing on stage. M responded, “F.U. is playing his guitar - why can’t I play my harmonicas?” Like a little kid who claims his brother got a bigger piece of pie.

One regular spoke at length with M once (he had asked the guy for job-hunting advice). The regular was amazed at how little M was willing to do to make himself more marketable. Suggestions that M should consider a course in computer repair were met with, “I don’t think the time is right for that” and other canned excuses. M puts a surprising amount of effort into getting his way with people he’s close to. It’s sad to think of what’s going to become of him after his parents are gone and he has to fend for himself.

The regular speculated to me afterward that M had suffered really bad bullying growing up, which frightened him of doing anything competitive. (M is about 5’3", and has a really high voice. If you met him, you would probably guess he’s 15). This made sense to me, and I wonder if taking up karate or something would be good for him.

My sad little stalker. At least he ain’t a knife-wielding Glen Close.

I have no advice for you, I just wanted to tell you that you have a kind heart to be asking “how can I help this guy?” rather than “get it off me get it off me!”

Thank you, but believe me, I’ve thought both. :eek:

I don’t know that I have any advice, but I can say that parts of me can identify with parts of M. I grew up socially inept, bullied, and lacking utterly in self-confidence. I never really got serious about work 'til I was approaching my mid-20s, either – though much of my youth was spent in front of my computer not just playing games, but programming, too, so there was some practicality to my self-imposed seclusion. I also didn’t suffer from weight problems so I didn’t have to deal with that. Mostly I was just socially maladjusted, and that led to a lack of self-confidence – which is plenty enough on its own.

I was also terminally lazy. Not to the point where I didn’t want to do anything, but to the point where I didn’t really want to do anything except what interested me or what I was good at, most of which revolved around computers. It’s probably that M hasn’t really found anything he’s good at, so he doesn’t even have that to cling to. He seems to think he’s good at the harmonica, but I expect he’s deluding himself into thinking that because he’s even less skilled at everything else, so that’s all he’s got, such as it is. He may appear lazy because he may be looking for someone to help him, to tutor him in some fashion, and you’re probably one of the closest things he can call a friend who knows how to play music. He may not like doing it alone because perhaps not seeing any progress in his skills has frustrated him and he’s gone as far as he feels he can on his own, though he may not want to admit that to himself.

Perhaps too the thought of how much he still has to learn and how long it’s going to take him to learn it is daunting to the point of frustration. I know when I was younger I loved the challenge and enjoyed learning, but as I’ve gotten older I’ve become more impatient and so challenges I once would have risen to with aplomb now feel like mountains I need to traverse; learning iPhone development as I am currently undertaking feels like a massive journey, and even though I am fully confident that I can do it, the length of time I know it will take sometimes feels insurmountable. I can only imagine how much worse that might seem to someone who lacks any significant skills.

I don’t really know what to suggest with M though. I solved most of my own problems with a combination of age and maturity, and finding things I was good and learning how to do them as well as I could – which I’m always improving at. It sounds like M needs to find what he’s good at, something he can anchor some pride do and build out his self-confidence from there.

You’re a sweet, kind soul to want to help him, but to be honest, some people need professional help. I’m not saying he needs help in the crazy-must-be-locked-up kind of way, but he needs help from someone who is specialized to help people like him. If he has Aspergers, he needs help from a social worker or therapist trained to help autistic people socialize and adapt to society.

It’s great you want to help him, but you can see that you’re running out of ways you can help him. Perhaps, if you know his dad, share your concern. Let him know there are resources out there for him. Let him know you are concerned for his son and care about his son and his son’s well being. A quick search on Google will lead you to a number of resources for whatever affects him, whether it’s Aspergers or even PTSD from being bullied.

He needs a trained professional, not someone to tell him off or even a well-meaning, but misguided friend. There is help out there for him.

Just want to point out that people with Asperger’s often don’t reach maturity until their late 30s. So, depending on this guy’s age, he may functionally be 12 years old.

But I understand what you are going through. It seems every kid with Asperger’s or other social disorders winds up seeking me out when I’m in public. That’s why I bothered learning so much about the disorder. I just like to help out the socially awkward. Having had social anxiety disorder, I know how it feels.

And I definitely agree that you need to get him professional help. There’s such a thing as a “social skills teacher.” It teaches Aspies the same way a piano teacher would teach you or me. While they’ll always have some eccentricities, it’s possible for them to learn to be so “normal” that no one can tell the difference. Heck, they might not even qualify as having Asperger’s on the tests.

Thanks for all the advice and kind words.

I hadn’t thought about PTSD, but that might explain a lot.

I don’t really know the father (I met him once when he came to the restaurant), so I can’t really pick up the phone and talk to him. But M keeps talking about bringing him back sometime. If he does, I’ll talk to him then. The father seems to know there’s a problem: he gently admonished M when he started a conversation with a guy who was talking to someone else. So I’m not sure I’ll be able to tell him anything he doesn’t already know.

Incidentally, I asked M casually the other night, “So, how’s the job search going?”, and he replied, "I’d rather not talk about it - don’t wanna jinx it".
He can show surprising initiative and ability to think on his feet when something threatens his adolescent existence.

It’s less that he has no social skills than he doesn’t bother to use them unless he wants something, or when someone tries to treat him like an adult.

I can relate - I had a very similar situation a few years ago. Except it was a fiddle, not a harmonica. I’ll relate the whole tale later (on my iPhone right now) but the long and short of it was that I eventually had to sit him down - along with his father - and explain exactly why he was no longer welcome at my performances. Not a fun moment, but It did resolve the situation.