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Old 04-16-2012, 02:59 AM
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Well thanks Malacandra that clears up the second part of my confusion, but the source of my original confusion remains. In your post above you said "...I think Grier should have considered taking Navaan with her..." Take Navaan with her where and when? They are together the whole strip and Grier never goes away
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:05 AM
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In your post above you said "...I think Grier should have considered taking Navaan with her..." Take Navaan with her where and when? They are together the whole strip and Grier never goes away
In the last panel we see Grier's foot walking away, leaving Navaan behind tied up. Presumably Grier is heading towards the tunnels under the Fun Pavilion to rescue the monks. So I assume the suggestion is that Grier should bring Navaan along for extra firepower.

ETA and completely off-topic: Speaking of visible jets .

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Old 04-16-2012, 08:15 AM
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In the enchanted city, ISTR Navaan was just fine as long as she was swaddled from scalp to toe.
Which along with the fact that doctors bleed people made her "playing doctor" (heh) a perfect cover.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:19 AM
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Which along with the fact that doctors bleed people made her "playing doctor" (heh) a perfect cover.
As is her doctor's uniform, which also covers her from head to toe.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:20 PM
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After today, I'm still not sure if Navaan decapitated Morag or not. But she is still adorable!

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Old 04-22-2012, 02:45 PM
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After today, I'm still not sure if Navaan decapitated Morag or not. But she is still adorable!
Navaan should set herself up at The Golden Peach. There are any number of customers who would gladly donate a pint for a turn with her.
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:02 PM
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One way or another this is shaping up as the best story in a year or so.
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:57 PM
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I'm planning on waiting until Cooper completes this story arc and then I'm going to go back and reread it all and see if it makes more sense in retrospect.
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:41 PM
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Oh, when she kicks the guy, something drops on the floor. Any idea what it is?

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Old 04-29-2012, 01:50 PM
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I was wondering that, too.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:19 PM
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See the semen on the male "nurse"'s mouth? The one who stood in for Navaan?
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:23 PM
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I like the fact that Navaan, who's usually portrayed as a cloudcuckoolander, was able to come up with a real plan and make it work.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:23 PM
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"I don't know what to do unless she has a cock."

So was it the immortal blood that made Navaan pass out?
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:26 PM
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"I don't know what to do unless she has a cock."

So was it the immortal blood that made Navaan pass out?
No, it was the sustained blowing. See the mouseover text, then search for the definition.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:40 PM
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Thanks. Now I'm going to be looking for an opportunity to work the term "atelectasis" into casual conversation.
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:37 PM
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Great blow job Navaan!
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:52 PM
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The suspense is killing me. Also, nice touch with the monk's facial.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:36 PM
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Great blow job Navaan!
Nice one! I laughed out loud
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:30 PM
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Just another example of the old cliffhanger-when-somebody-passes-out-from-having-to-blow-too-much-air-from-the-windpipe-of-an-immortal-who's-been-decapitated cliche. It was old when For Better or Worse did it; it was old when Family Circle did it; it was old when Dennis the Menace did it; it was old when Peanuts did it.
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:18 PM
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See the semen on the male "nurse"'s mouth? The one who stood in for Navaan?
I believe that is sweat - he's nervous.
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:25 PM
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At the end, yes, but on the first page he has some suspicious looking droplets hanging around his mouth.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:29 AM
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Just another example of the old cliffhanger-when-somebody-passes-out-from-having-to-blow-too-much-air-from-the-windpipe-of-an-immortal-who's-been-decapitated cliche. It was old when For Better or Worse did it; it was old when Family Circle did it; it was old when Dennis the Menace did it; it was old when Peanuts did it.
The one where Jeffy did it is probably the only Family Circle that ever made me laugh.

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Old 04-30-2012, 05:03 AM
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it was old when Family Circle did it;
Family Circus.

Though I'm sure I saw an oozing bloody stump recipe in Family Circle back in the early 90s.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:15 AM
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Would I be too much off the mark to suggest this thing as a Morag-muncher? http://oglaf.com/failsafe/
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:13 PM
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Would I be too much off the mark to suggest this thing as a Morag-muncher? http://oglaf.com/failsafe/
Possibly, but the mask's eyes are not shown.

I'm getting a Rancor vibe from the setting, but I'm sure I will be wrong.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:31 AM
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New one, but it's an intermission from the current storyline.

ALT and TITLE texts:
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ALT - A fighting cock.
TITLE - Gather up Uudroth's justice juice. It's good for the complexion.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:26 PM
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New one, but it's an intermission from the current storyline.

ALT and TITLE texts:
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ALT - A fighting cock.
TITLE - Gather up Uudroth's justice juice. It's good for the complexion.
Not a fan of this one. Not just because I was really enjoying the current storyline, but because it's more ...meh. Dick jokes. Okay.
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:40 PM
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What a shame.. was looking forward to more Grier, or, possibly, Morag action.
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Old 05-06-2012, 04:40 PM
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That, and Uudroth just looks stupid.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:41 AM
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i thought it was good...but yeah, a bit disappointed its not more of the story...oh well, it'll continue eventually
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:04 AM
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dang, I can't edit my last post for some reason. Anyway, this has changed my view on comics with long running plots and their "fluff" moments: (spoilered for wall of text and plot)

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What effect do you expect this stream of images to have on a person reading through the archive as opposed to waiting?

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The longer I do this the more I'm struck by how radical the difference is between the experiences of reading something archivally vs. serially, both for the reader, and the author if he's prone to sampling reactions frequently as I do. For the reader especially, I think the experience of day to day reading is so dramatically different, they might as well be reading a different story altogether.

The main difference is the amount of space between events the reader has, which can be filled with massive amounts of speculation, analysis, predictions, and something I guess you could call "opinion building", which can have both positive and negative effects. On the positive side, these readers become more closely engaged with the material than archival readers can be, zeroing in on details and insights which might be overlooked otherwise. On the negative side, I think that excess mental noise the space between pages allows can potentially be a bit suffocating, and put a strain on the experience the material was intended to deliver.

The archival reader always has the luxury of moving on to the next page, regardless of how he reacts to certain events, and thus can be more impassive about it. That internal cacophony isn't given time to build, and if there are reservations about a string of events, whether due to shocking revelations, or questions over the narrative merit of something, or really any form of dissatisfaction, all he has to do is keep clicking to see how it all fits together, and can make a more complete judgment with hindsight.

The recent pages had me particularly conscious of the nature of serial delivery. The whole scene was rolled out over the course of a weekend, first with ______, then ______. When ______ dies, this registers as one extremely dramatic event. Cue the waiting, speculating, worrying and all that. When ______ dies a day or so later, it registers as a second dramatic event! Again the scrutiny begins which the space allows. Is this all too much? How do I feel about this narrative turn? Is this setting a trend for a bloodbath? Does that serve any purpose? The reader projects into the future, does a little unwitting fanfiction writing in his head, and may not like what he sees! All this activity becomes the basis for opinion building, which is sort of the emergence of an official position on matters, good or bad, which is only able to flourish in the slow-motion intake of the story. That official position can be a very stubborn thing, especially when it's negative, and seriously textures the way additional developments are regarded. It's really hard to shake a reader off an entrenched position on a matter, even when it was formed with an incomplete picture.

Reading the same events in the archive is quite different. Very little of that inner monologue takes shape. And while the events are still shocking, and the reader may raise his eyebrows a mile high, he then simply lowers them and keeps reading. In fact, because of the reading pace, I would suggest these two deaths actually register as only ONE DRAMATIC EVENT! One guy snaps and kills two characters. In the flow of straight-through reading especially, it is quite startling, tension-building, and can only serve to propel the reader into further pages, at a pace which suspends the experience-compromising (augmenting??) play-by-play.

But like I've said, I don't think one way of reading is necessarily better than the other. Both have plusses, and obviously I choose to make this serially, and I play off plenty of in the moment reactions. But I tend consider the archival experience more, because when all is said and done, this thing has to sit on a server for years to come, waiting for new people to find it.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:34 PM
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You can only edit your post for five minutes after you post it. We like our words to have permanence, around here.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:52 PM
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That, and Uudroth just looks stupid.
What do you expect from someone with a glans for a head?

I thought it was an amusingly silly bit of one-time fluff. An example of, as I've commented before, just how hilariously fucked-up a world with real magic in it would be.
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:32 PM
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dang, I can't edit my last post for some reason. Anyway, this has changed my view on comics with long running plots and their "fluff" moments: (spoilered for wall of text and plot)
I agree with the spoilered text in your post. Reading a strip in collected fashion is a different experience than reading it in its original day by day schedule. I know when I first read Erfworld I wasn't all that impressed by it. But later I went back and reread the series all together and I realized how much of it I had missed.

From the other perspective, Rich Burlew, the creator of The Order of the Stick, has explicitly acknowledged this phenomena. He has set the pacing of events in his regular strip to reflect the fact that people read it one day at a time and have plenty of opportunity to discuss each strip before the next one appears. When he publishes the strips in a collection he adds new foreshadowing material that he intentionally left out of the original story. He feels that a person reading a book will be carried along by the story and won't stop to over-analyze the individual pages and therefore won't figure out what's coming up.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:06 AM
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New One. I like the first "punchline" better than the second.
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I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but shouldn't we just take the warning labels off everything and let the problem deal with itself?
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:13 AM
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Ok, still in intermission, but at least I laughed this time.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:29 AM
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I like how Front Half Guy is all enthusiastic about the ambush plan even though it turns out that he's completely unclear about the identity and even the existence of the target.
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:01 PM
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Better than last week's, but I'm definitely looking forward to getting back to the main storyline.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:01 PM
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And it's here: http://oglaf.com/diversions/

BWA-HA-HA!!! I can just see that really being done!

2nd page Mouseover text:
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For the night-time rodeo, we grease it up

BWA-HA-HA!!!
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:08 PM
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Yep, getting the story moving again at any rate.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:37 PM
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Grier is awesome.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:22 PM
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Grier is awesome.
On many levels.

(Well, only one. But still.)
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:00 PM
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Woo!
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:40 PM
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I like that she knows how to whistle nonchalantly. Or possibly, that she actually IS having fun because she's on the job.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:43 PM
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Is there a 4th page I'm missing today?

And what is up with the funworm? I'm not sure what it is yet....

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Old 05-27-2012, 03:18 PM
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Fixed link.

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Is there a 4th page I'm missing today?

And what is up with the funworm? I'm not sure what it is yet....
The funsnake is a real god disguised as a fake one, apparently.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:33 PM
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The puppet-head on the Funsnake seems to bear a slight resemblance to H.R. Puffinstuf, the bags under the eyes, the collar.....

…it's obviously not your freind when things get rough, though
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:09 PM
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Is there a 4th page I'm missing today?

And what is up with the funworm? I'm not sure what it is yet....
Nope, no next page, no epilogue.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:08 PM
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The lack of conclusion. It burns.
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:03 PM
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I mean, there is no clipped corner on the 3rd panel. Looking for a 4th manually just gets me dwarves.

I imagine we will soon learn how impervious Grier is to fun.
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