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Nobody mentioned Stranger in a Strange Land from Lost yet?
After weeks of watching aggravating, soap opera bullshit between Kate, Sawyer, and Jack while we slowly forget about all the cool stuff that they were building up to featuring Ben and the Others, the network advertises that "Three Big Mysteries Will Be Revealed!" Then we get 45 minutes of EVEN MORE soap opera bullshit, which now slows the show down from it's crawling, tedious pace to a stone-cold coma, while Jack grimaces at the camera and has memories about.... his tattoos. Yes, Lost. We tuned in because we didn't care about mysteries or intrigue or interesting characters. We wanted to get 45 minutes of extra behind-the-scenes footage of television's dullest character, who has already had 15 episodes devoted to his daddy issues and emotional problems, just to find out about a couple of shitty tattoos that we never noticed before and which will never come up again or be relevant in any meaningful way. Fortunately, the show got significantly better after this episode. It marks the end of the season 3 slump. |
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There's the 2-3 episode sub-arc with Garibaldi trying to figure out who's sending messages on the uber-forbidden Gold Channel. Then there's the "Dad Dies" ep. Then the TKO/Rabbi subplot. Then there's four or five other eps where Ivanova talks about her relationship with dad and brother and how she's dealing with their deaths. Despite her talking more about her mom, more actual screen time (IMO--I haven't counted. ) is spent on Dad+Brother.Quote:
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My own Heroes pick is Episode 3.04 "I Am Become Death" in which Peter travels to the future in the company of his saturnine future incarnation. And from there, the show decides to not only piss all over every bit of characterisation of every character, it also decides to throw out such things as narratives that make any sense. Plus, they introduced a bunch of plotpoints which were never heard of every again, which, as they all stunk was probably no bad thing but did mean they were a massive waste of time. Close runner up: The 'Villains' flashback episode for adding nothing worthwhile and yet undoing a lot of the loveliness of the far superior previous flashback episode "Six Months Ago". Bad enough that the current season stunk, they didn't have to go back and try and make that earlier ep retroactively dumb. (Is this in fact the episode you are talking about, Annie?) |
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For Heroes, can I just pick "every episode where Hiro and Ando are in medieval Japan"? Jesus christ that was a boring storyline.
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Lost: "Stranger in a Stange Land," for all the reasons Xavier T. Nougat mentioned. I think this is even worse than the Nikki/Paolo episode.
The Office: The pilot was pretty bad, but as for a bad episode after the show hit its stride, "Chair Model" comes to mind. Michael gets himself all worked up over a furniture catalog model? Meh. |
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Recently we added the original series to the DVR list. My wife enjoys TNG and had come to appreciate DS9, but she had never seen any of the original series episodes.
So the first two episodes that show up on the list are: The Way to Eden and Turnabout Intruder. I'll give her credit, she sat through both episodes, but decided the original series was sillier than The Monkeys. I tried to explain. The reruns reset and we started getting some first season goodness, but it is hard to lose a first impression. But yes, both of those are terrible. I guess the space hippies one is worse, imo. |
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I can't recall any I don't like from Futurama but that is probably b ecause I am suffering from a case of explosive amnesia.
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As Fiddlesticks pointed out it's hard to think of one for The Wire so I'll nominate one for Firefly instead. For me it's The Message with it's over-elaborate plot and sappy ending.
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Fenris, are we also agreed that the third-worst episode of B5 was the one with the organic technology doohicky that turned the archaeologist into an unstoppable killing machine? Though I think that was the first or second episode after the pilot, so we can maybe make allowances for the show not yet having hit its stride. |
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Blackadder the entire Season 1, sorry, just can't get into it, none of my Cunning Plans seem to work
Farscape; Season 1; Jerimiah Crichton - John gets stranded on some backwater planet for 3 months, when he's rescued, Rygel is seen by the native population as some form of "God", which Fluffy tries to exploit to the fullest, but fails as is normal for him Season 2; Taking the Stone Not even the comely presence of Gigi Edgely's Chiana character could save this one, pity, as it had a strong opening and lots of potential (plus, I just frelling *love* Chiana ), the scene opens to an obviously visibly distraught Chi, sad, heartbroken about something, she needs someone to talk to, she hopes that Crichton (whom she's secretly been carrying a torch for) would be able to talk to her, spend time with her, make her feel better, help heal her broken heart, crichton, however, is arms deep in Moya's control hardware and he gives her the cold-shoulder brushoffHeartbroken, abandoned by her closest freind, she steals Aeryn's prowler and storms off to a nearby planet, populated by drugged-out "space hippie" teenagers who turn out to be adrenalin-junkie-suicide-fanatics the rest of the episode consists of Chi being a spoiled brat and wanting to live with the Space-Hippies, even though they live in a cave with radioactive rock that's slowly killing them..... watch the first few minutes, up to Chiana nicking Aeryn's prowler, then forget the rest.... Season 3; can't think of a one, S3 was pretty frelling solid Season 4; hmm, what to choose, there's so many, could it be the "Vomit-O-Rama" episode Coup By Clam, or the frelling stupid "Aeryn gets religion while being tortured by the Scarrans" Prayer, or even "I hate it only because it was the last episode of the series even though it was a great episode" Bad Timing Let me set things up here, imagine, you've spent four years with John Crichton and the crew of Moya, you know them well, they're your "friends", your "family" (for lack of a better term), they're more than actors and animatronics playing roles onscreen, they feel like real, actual people..... Aeryn is pregnant with John's child Chiana has been blinded (possibly permanently) by using her "Bullet-Time" vision to help the crew escape to this point in the series, she is also madly in love with John, even though John is unaware of this (watch her expression seamlessly shift from joy to sadness as she realizes what's happening with John and Aeryn, joy for him getting married to Aeryn, sadness when she realizes she's lost him.... (3:15 to 3:40) D'Argo has forgiven Chiana for her infidelity, and they look to be getting back together D'argo and John have become more than freinds, D actually considers him a brother, something Luxans never do to non-Luxans Pilot and Aeryn have shared DNA (through the efforts of a mad-scientist trying to create a Sebecean-Pilot hybrid) and think of each other as family (extended family) keep all that in mind when you watch this.... and keep in mind that at the time, Farscape had just been cancelled, and there was no provisions for the Peacekeeper Wars miniseries, this ending sequence was the *final* episode of Farscape for all we knew..... |
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My Worst Episode of The X-Files was "Eve" until the very last season managed to top it (bottom it?) with "Scary Monsters". Not a great idea to start with and VERY badly executed, with everyone behaving in ways that made me want to kick them, and the established characters behaving badly in ways that were out of character.
The two worst scenes (I'm not sure which was more appalling): Doggett gratuitously terrorizing the "villain" when he could have just cold-cocked him and gotten the same results; and Scully opening her door to a midnight visitor who just shows up unannounced at her apartment, carrying a box that for all she knows contains the head & genitals of the last woman who was dumb enough to open her door to a total stranger in the middle of the night. (This was supposedly the same Scully who in a first-season episode greeted an unexpected midnight caller with a drawn pistol.) |
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Roseanne may not be my favorite show but it's on the short list (the number 1 spot varies). The single worst episode was in the final season when Roseanne and crew are flown to Europe by a prince played by Jim Varney; if winning the lottery (which could have worked) hadn't already made them jump the shark that most certainly did. The writing was ridiculous and silly (a European prince from a tiny country falling in love with a middle aged American woman he sees in a news clip), you never got over the fact it was Ernest speaking in an English accent, and it set in motion a long series of increasingly dreamlike and absurd episodes.
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There was no daughter on Top of the Heap. Are you maybe thinking of Unhappily Ever After?
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But I cannot, will not, absolutely refuse to ever watch again the episode "Han," the 4th episode from the 5th season. I will not watch it for any reason, for any amount of money. It OFFENDS ME, it's so ridiculous horrifically unrealistic in the context of the already-established characters. NONE of those people would allow that to happen, or be complicit in it. It's egregiously WRONG. Last edited by Kolga; 11-16-2009 at 08:16 PM. Reason: fixed punctuation |
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M*A*S*H: "Major Fred C. Dobbs". Hawkeye & Trapper drive Frank to request a transfer, which results in Hot Lips also requesting a transfer. Rather than go on double shifts until replacements are found, they concoct a scheme to have Frank reconsider by relying on his greed and some gold paint.
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Star Trek: TOS is one of my favorite shows for the promise that it held. But my word, was it ever plagued by bad writing. And "The Way to Eden" was the worst of the bunch. Space hippies take over the Enterprise? Spock jams with them on his harp? Somebody was smoking some bad shit to come up with that script.
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Right now I'm really into the new Dr. Who and having just finished the 4th season, I'd have to say I thought "Fear Her" was one of the weakest episodes. I don't know why, but it's probably because it never explains how the whole alien drawing power thing is supposed to work or what it does. I also got rather annoyed by the whole "Draw the Earth" and everyone will be affected thing.It felt like a cheat, even by this shows standards.
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You know that episode in the last season of Star Trek: TNG where Wesley goes off with the Native Americans and became a time traveler or whatever?
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And according to the tech backstory of Voyager, Voyager's engine's were a newly developed type that wouldn't damage subspace when used (maybe it was the tilting that helped). So they just shot that plot point down, for good measure. Whats worse is that is was Voyager that wrote off a stupid technobabble point from TNG. That's only slightly humiliating.
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What - no hate for Genesis from ST:TNG? Troi turns into a frog-person, Picard starts becoming a lemur and - yes really - Spot "devolves" from a cat into an actual iguana.
Also, at the end they're laughing off Beverly's little "oops, I accidentally created a plague that contaminated the whole crew" gaffe. Um...didn't the proto-Worf actually kill a couple of crewmembers along the way? Hilarious! But hey! We didn't know them, so that's okay. Last edited by Gyrate; 11-17-2009 at 03:46 AM. Reason: correcting title |
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The way that I remember thinking about it is that the characters were all acting absolutely diametrically opposed to the way they'd been acting for the last four seasons, not only in the sense of denying Han (the titular pianist) defection (these were people who'd arranged a breakout of about 100 Chinese stowaways from a California National Guard holding center a few seasons before) but in their interactions with each other. But again, specific examples would require that I watch the episode to refresh my memory. |
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I didn't think it was actually...bad. It set up the whole "shadow" thing (with the organic tech) and gave us a few hints about organic tech. Although the ending just sucked donkey balls. (The sentinal-bots killed everyone who wasn't genetically pure and wiped out the whole race because no-one's 100% genetically pure? A) It was a blatant swipe from X-Men 57-59. and B) the X-Men ended it better: Sheridan does a Cap'n Kirk "confuse the robot" gambit. Boring. Cyclops tells the "Wipe out impure people" that the sun is the source of all mutations so go attack the sun". Much better) The one with the lady Dr. Mengele (G'kar's first assistant went nuts and tried to kill her) was in the same category--not good or anything, but not to the status of actually being bad. Or the one (that cemented my dislike for Dr. Franklin*) where he just casually ignores a patient's wishes (the Space-Jehovah's Witness Kid) and his parent's wishes AND the Captain's wishes and performs surgery on him against his will "for his own good". There's a bunch in the first half of the first season that aren't good but aren't actually bad either. *I hate the character--he's an arrogant, smug, pompous, self-righteous prick (which is wonderful characterization and the actor was fantastic) |
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South Park was my favorite show.
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I was going to nit back that it should be Armen, a popular Armenian name. How hard is that? Armenia => Armen. However, it seems the Simpson writers misspelled it. Now I really hate that episode.
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Wesley Crusher and the Indians. Oh lordy lordy.
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The Enterprise finale sucked - come on, take the prequel and spend huge amounts of time on a stupid, dead end Riker B plot that not even TNG really cared about. And end the series in a holodeck in Enterprise D? And close the series using TNG stock shots?
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Turnabout Intruder was shown roughly two months after it was originally scheduled to air. It aired in June of 1969, the last of the episodes to get its original airing. It may be that The Way to Eden was actually the last broadcast episode during the summer's re-runs, but I haven't been able to confirm that or disprove it. |
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The third season of TOS makes me kind of glad that Firefly and Dead Like Me only lasted as long as they did.
The second season of Joan of Arcadia kind of does that for me too, except for the Zombie Musical episode, which was awesome. |
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Not saying this is my favorite show, but it might be someone's!
Last night I was watching, with my gf who was not in the US at the time of the original airing, a DVD I picked up at the 99 cent store - a collection of episodes of Chico and the Man starring the late Freddy Prinze. In the last episode of 6 on the DVD, Prinze was noticeably spaced out, and missing lines, ad-libbing others, and even seemingly ad-libbed a knife to his throat gesture for comedic effect. Since I didn't recall the details of his death, I looked it up this morning so I could share with my gf. Turns out, he killed himself hours after taping that show. While it may not be the worst show in the series, killing yourself surely raises the bar of self-critiquing to an entirely new level! |
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It's the worst season, true, although I can still watch most of the episodes on DVD. It improves after that (although never again to the Sorkin level). That particular episode of the 5th season just fills me with GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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The Internet: Nobody knows if you're a dog. Everybody knows if you're a jackass. Last edited by Steve MB; 11-17-2009 at 02:15 PM. |
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C'mon - any discussion about the worst TNG episode has to begin and end with the "Riker gets stabbed by a thorn" episode. It wasn't even an episode - it was a clip show with more clips than any clip show I can recall. I'd say it was about 95% previous footage, with about two minutes of Riker, Troi and Pulaski. Complete waste of time.
Going back a ways, there was an episode of Nothern Exposure where Shelly couldn't stop singing. She would sing instead of talk, while everyone else just talked. Unwatchable. |
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I liked the episode Han and just watched it a couple weeks ago. The actor playing the pianist had such heart-breaking expressions on his face, like noble resignation. I had forgotten about South Park's Lemmiwinks. That was pretty bad. The musical Joseph Smith/Mormon one was excruciating. So was the lice one. I think Lemmiwinks though is the worst. |
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Man, Trek sure dropped some plutonium-laced turds in its time(s) didn't it?
My dear gawd almighty ick! vote from TNG:http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Game_%28episode%29 The Game (format impaired, sorry) Orgasmatron video game. 'nuff said My own Heroes pick is Episode 3.04 "I Am Become Death" in which Peter travels to the future in the company of his saturnine future incarnation. And from there, the show decides to not only piss all over every bit of characterisation of every character, it also decides to throw out such things as narratives that make any sense. Plus, they introduced a bunch of plotpoints which were never heard of every again, which, as they all stunk was probably no bad thing but did mean they were a massive waste of time. [/quote] Redeemed only slightly by waffle Sylar (but that hair! Ugh) and a nuclear detonation. Quote:
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Sorry, Promethea, I balled up your quote in my reply.
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The Office. I don't know the episode - or even the season - but I speak of the one where there is a dinner party at Michael and Jan's new condo. The entire episode was full of awkward anger. It was painful to watch.
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Arrested Development is by far my favorite show, but the six episodes with Charlize Theron were dreadful. The series was falling apart because the network kept messing with it, so I understand what happened, but it was like watching a different show.
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