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Old 11-23-2009, 03:16 AM
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What movies got rave reviews by the critics, yet were vastly overrated?

I'd say that Gosford Park and Observe and Report definitely fall into the above-mentioned category, although Gosford Park won the Academy Award for the Best Picture that year.

The same can be said to some degree for Slumdog Millionaire, which, although it was a good, well-done film, wasn't worthy of the Best Picture of the Year Academy Award.

What do the rest of you think? I'd love some feedback here.
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:29 AM
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This one is easy, because critics want to believe anything they've seen that others haven't is a hidden treasure, or if not, so bad that common people should thank the critic for guarding the walls against it.

So what I'm saying anything critics like that I haven't is overrated. And definitely Slumdog Millionaire. If critics had known millions of proles would see it they would have counted its flaws more against it.
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:36 AM
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In looking back at that previous post, I think I might be telling it like it is a little too hard. I hope all of you can handle it.
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:59 AM
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I agree about Gosford Park, but it didn't win Best Picture. Looking at recent Best Picture winners, lot of people like Titanic, and a lot hate it. I thought it was god-awful, with a terrible performance by Kate Winslet. I thought Gladiator was pretty mundane. American Beauty moved me at the time, but has aged poorly.

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Old 11-23-2009, 08:37 AM
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:58 AM
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Fargo - I didn't like it.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:19 AM
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The title of this thread should be "What movies got rave reviews by the critics, yet I didn't like?" It's not that anything in particular was bad or overrated about any of the movies mentioned so far; it's just that you didn't like them.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:37 AM
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As Good As It Gets - I found it just awful on the whole, but the dialogue was exceptionally poor. I remember feeling embarrassed by Helen Hunt's performance -- my skin crawled at every line she delivered. And she won an Academy Award and a Golden Glode for that performance. Go figure.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:45 AM
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Apocalypse Now.

When it was originally on TV uncut over several nights, I was working and asked hubby to record it and he did so on 3 different video tapes. Somehow I watched it out of order, and kept falling asleep after about half an hour of watching so I kept waking up and winding it back to the last part I vaguely remember seeing. Made absolutely no sense, and was boring as fuck. We figured out that it was being played out of order, so we rented it, and sat down to watch it. I still kept falling asleep, and it made fuck all for sense. There were a few interesting scenes - the napalm strike, and the helicopter flight leaving with Ride of the Valkyries, but in general a huge boring mass of bullshit.

To be honest, you could literally cut out half the movie and have a decent movie.

I also do not have any idea why people seem to worship the Godfather, either.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:51 AM
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The Usual Suspects. Everybody told me what a great movie it was, and I was pumped when I finally got around to renting it. But, I don't maybe if it was because I was expecting so much, I found it kind of tedious. It felt like they were trying too hard to replicate David Mamet.
When they had the big reveal at the end, I was like "meh." It was kind of cool, I guess, but at that point I just didn't care enough about the story or the characters to get really excited about it.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:44 AM
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I'd say that Gosford Park and Observe and Report definitely fall into the above-mentioned category, although Gosford Park won the Academy Award for the Best Picture that year.

The same can be said to some degree for Slumdog Millionaire, which, although it was a good, well-done film, wasn't worthy of the Best Picture of the Year Academy Award.

What do the rest of you think? I'd love some feedback here.
Nitpick: A Beautiful Mind won the Oscar for Best Picture that year.

That being said, I agree with your choice of Gosford Park.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:01 PM
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The Godfather. It insists upon itself.

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Old 11-23-2009, 12:14 PM
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A lot of critics wet their pants over Crash* when it first came out, so I decided it might be worth seeing while it was still in theatres. Ugh.

It felt... forced. The characters didn't have any consistent personalities - they'd shift from good guy to bad guy for no apparent reason other than the fact that the plot called for it, and the final scene involving the young cop played by Ryan Phillipe felt so out-of-character that I had to sit on my hands lest I throw my popcorn at the screen in frustration.

I'm sure there was a meaningful message about everyone is still a racist deep down inside, no matter how much we pretend we're not... or was it that every bigot is actually pretty decent under all that hate? Damned if I can remember. All I know is that I got bludgeoned by The Very Important Message About Race In Modern Society for a couple of hours and didn't enjoy the experience at all.

Not to mention that half of the actors involved can't act their way out of a paper bag anyways (Ryan Phillipe, I'm looking at you).



* The newer mainstream film called Crash, that is... not the Cronenberg film about people who get turned on by car accidents, which is actually quite good as long as you can deal with the usual Cronenberg gross-outs.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:41 PM
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"The Dark Knight". I really wanted to like this out of respect for Mr Ledger's memory but it didn't really do that much for me. I do think his performance was the best part of the movie but that's not really saying all that much. I'm glad that I saw it when it came out as I,like so many people, was shocked and saddened by his death, but I don't know that I'd ever bother to watch it again.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:45 PM
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Whoa. This is so weird. I JUST re saw Gosford Park this weekend and I thought to myself, "I'm sure at least one person just didn't get it and is thinking this."

Anyway, I think Gosford Park is a brilliant, great send up of British social class system. Absolutely love it.

Agreed on the Dark Knight, though. It was fun, but entirely too long and dull in the parts that Heath Ledger wasn't it. And agree again on Crash. Terrible film.

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Old 11-23-2009, 02:06 PM
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Lost in Translation nothing happens and then nothing happens some more.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:21 PM
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Lost in Translation nothing happens and then nothing happens some more.
I was thinking about this question for the last hour or so and "Lost In Translation" was the best example I could come up with, so I come here to post it and of course, I am beaten to the punch yet again...............

(seriously, one of the most over-praised movies I can ever remember)

Another example was "City Of God" which was treated like the Second Coming by the critics here at Sundance.

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Old 11-23-2009, 02:29 PM
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One word: Brazil

A truly lousy film by an overrated, mostly hack director*

* Time Bandits excluded
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:31 PM
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I'm sure there was a meaningful message about everyone is still a racist deep down inside, no matter how much we pretend we're not... or was it that every bigot is actually pretty decent under all that hate? Damned if I can remember. All I know is that I got bludgeoned by The Very Important Message About Race In Modern Society for a couple of hours and didn't enjoy the experience at all.
I don't think the point was that we are all racist, or that bigots are, underneath it all, decent people [ha ha]. The emphasis of the movie, at least from my perspective, was that people are not one-dimensional. That was one thing I appreciated about this movie, that there was no clear right/wrong, black/white, etc., but everything was a shade of gray, which is, to me, more realistic.

However, I will say that movies like this could have the tendency to be over rated simply because people feel like movies on issues like this are profound, perhaps more profound than they really are. *shrug*
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:18 PM
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I was thinking about this question for the last hour or so and "Lost In Translation" was the best example I could come up with, so I come here to post it and of course, I am beaten to the punch yet again...............

(seriously, one of the most over-praised movies I can ever remember)

Another example was "City Of God" which was treated like the Second Coming by the critics here at Sundance.
Oh, agree with both of those.

City of God was just so dull. Why? Because it shows poverty? Don't hundreds of movies do that? I actually don't think Slumdog was THAT great, but I remember thinking when I saw it that, okay, this movie isn't JUST about poverty. It's actually entertaining--that's what a movie should be. Not just, "Here's a message." It should have a story.
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:41 PM
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"The Dark Knight". I really wanted to like this out of respect for Mr Ledger's memory but it didn't really do that much for me. I do think his performance was the best part of the movie but that's not really saying all that much. I'm glad that I saw it when it came out as I,like so many people, was shocked and saddened by his death, but I don't know that I'd ever bother to watch it again.
I didn't think Dark Knight was worth its hype either, and I even wrote a post about it back in June.

http://scriptcleaners.blogspot.com/2...rk-knight.html

(Don't read it if you don't want to).

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Old 11-23-2009, 04:04 PM
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One word: Brazil

A truly lousy film by an overrated, mostly hack director*

* Time Bandits excluded
Wow. Your experience was so different from mine that "night" and "day" doesn't even begin to cover it. I saw it in the theater, and was so knocked out by the film, so literally stunned that I was still in my seat after the credits ended and the theater lights came up trying to get everything together to stand up and head home. I was poleaxed by this film and consider it one of the greatest films ever made.

You didn't happen to see this film on TV did you?
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:48 PM
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The Departed.

I wrote a lengthy post awhile ago discussing my issues with this truly, truly mediocre film.
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:12 PM
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Gladiator - Okay, but hardly Best Picture (which it won) quality.

Drag Me To Hell - I was pretty disappointed by this, in large part because of the rave (92% on Rotten Tomatoes) reviews I'd read that convinced me to see it in the theaters instead of waiting for DVD. Sorry, it just wasn't that great.

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Old 11-23-2009, 05:53 PM
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Wall-E was visually gorgeous, but had, IMO, the worst plot of any of the Pixar films. It practically beat you over the head with its green message, and the characters were easily forgetable.
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Old 11-23-2009, 06:40 PM
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I think I enjoyed Gran Torino a little bit the first time I saw it but the second time I watched it I absolutely hated it. The acting was terrible on all fronts, Clint Eastwood was really only mediocre.

I don't know, does Napoleon Dymanite count as rave reviews (71%)? I didn't find that particularly funny.
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Old 11-23-2009, 06:50 PM
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Eyes Wide Shut. Rich people really like sex, and will kill to keep this a secret.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:11 PM
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The title of this thread should be "What movies got rave reviews by the critics, yet I didn't like?" It's not that anything in particular was bad or overrated about any of the movies mentioned so far; it's just that you didn't like them.
Yeah, overrated is such a silly term. It's basically "what movies did you not like that other people did."
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:53 PM
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Wow. Your experience was so different from mine that "night" and "day" doesn't even begin to cover it. I saw it in the theater, and was so knocked out by the film, so literally stunned that I was still in my seat after the credits ended and the theater lights came up trying to get everything together to stand up and head home. I was poleaxed by this film and consider it one of the greatest films ever made.

You didn't happen to see this film on TV did you?
I've seen the theatrical version and the director's cut on Lasderdisc.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:58 PM
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I would have to definitely agree with Gladiator. It had the feel of a circa-1970s TV miniseries that might have starred Richard Chamberlain.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:08 PM
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Fargo AND Pulp Fiction. I thought both were just appalling. It's not that I can't intellectually understand why they are so much admired by critics, but I really, really did not enjoy.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:45 PM
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I've seen the theatrical version and the director's cut on Lasderdisc.
OK, you get points for giving it a fair shake then. Sorry it didn't work for you.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:49 PM
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I don't know, does Napoleon Dymanite count as rave reviews (71%)? I didn't find that particularly funny.
We saw that in the theater at a sneak preview, and thought it was one of the least funny comedies we've ever seen. My reaction was that it was a film by the cool kids about outcasts. Actual outcasts don't make films about outcasts, they make films about the cool people they wish they were (see: Tarantino, Quentin).
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:40 AM
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Apocalypse Now.... Made absolutely no sense, and was boring as fuck... We figured out that it was being played out of order, so we rented it, and sat down to watch it. I still kept falling asleep, and it made fuck all for sense. There were a few interesting scenes - the napalm strike, and the helicopter flight leaving with Ride of the Valkyries, but in general a huge boring mass of bullshit.

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Old 11-24-2009, 12:49 AM
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Another vote for Titanic. Hated every minute of it. I wish I could remember who said (on a TV talk show) that the reason 12-year old girls liked it so much was because the script sounded like it had been written by one.


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Old 11-24-2009, 12:55 AM
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I'm Not There. I'm guessing it was praised by critics, I know some of the actors were nominated for it but I couldn't get past the first 15 minutes. It was dull and confusing and all over the place. It was artsy for artsy's sake.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:13 AM
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Tootsie - I thought comedies were supposed to be funny.

The Deer Hunter - What utter crap.
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Old 11-24-2009, 06:49 AM
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I remember when The English Patient came out with all the critical buzz. A lot of people I know went to see it. No one liked it.

"Would you just die, already!" seemed to be everyone's reaction.

And There Will Be Blood. Ugh! Nothing in art should be that bleak. Toss us smile. Life is funny.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:17 AM
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Agree with Freudian Slit, Gosford Park was a great movie--not overrated.

The movie that takes the bill for me in this category is Mulholland Drive--pretentious bullshit masked as meaningful art. Not.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:18 AM
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Wall-E was visually gorgeous, but had, IMO, the worst plot of any of the Pixar films. It practically beat you over the head with its green message, and the characters were easily forgetable.
Agree with this. It *was* really pretty, but I just didn't connect with it like I have the other Pixar movies.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:49 AM
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I agree on Brazil, which I really want to like because I agree with what Gilliam was trying to say. Strongly agree. But man, the movie is just bad. It looks terrible, like vomit on the screen, the pacing is bad, the acting choices don't make sense in parts, the editing is bad, the cinematography is amateur. I've watched it a few times, and I want to like it, but it is a great idea made into a really terrible film. Honestly it looks like a feature length Sweded film.

As mentioned upthread, The Usual Suspects. I really liked it until the retarded "twist". That ruins the movie. It is basically the same as ending a film with the main character waking up and it all being a dream. It made the whole story bullshit.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:09 PM
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Raging Bull. The main character is a disgusting bore, the pace is slow as molasses, the non-linear editing is just confusing, and the photography is too brightly lit. But then, I'm not member of the Scorsese Cult.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:34 PM
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Wall-E was visually gorgeous, but had, IMO, the worst plot of any of the Pixar films. It practically beat you over the head with its green message, and the characters were easily forgetable.
Wall-E didn't have a major green message. Its major message was self-reliance, with the green message forming, at best, a strong B-plot.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:43 AM
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I don't understand the love for "Godfather Part II". The first one is pretty good. "Goodfellas" is a great mob picture. But the two times I saw "Part II" back in the 1970s, I was unimpressed.

Same thing with "Carnal Knowledge". And "Fargo". And "Brazil". "Gladiator" was disappointing although I liked the re-enactment of the "Battle of Zama" that went wrong.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:18 AM
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Count me in as a "Gosford Park" hater. Altman made his actors talk over each other in a lot of his movies, but in this one it just got out of hand. I had to watch it with the subtitles on because I couldn't pull apart what the hell everyone was saying.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:25 AM
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Anything by Quentin Tarantino. I don't get why his movies always get rave reviews.
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:41 AM
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Eyes Wide Shut. Rich people really like sex, and will kill to keep this a secret.
Worst movie ever! Kubrick and I have... issues.

It did not help that my unwitting mother took me to see this film when I was 13. Most awkward theater experience of my life!
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Old 11-25-2009, 04:00 AM
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I've never even heard of Gosford Park. Sounds like I'm not missing much.

I'd say Scarface. I watched it awhile back. It was alright, but certainly not worth decades of fanwank that it gets.

There Will Be Blood. I turned it off halfway through the climactic oil rig explosion scene. The music sounded like a concert performance done by 5th graders. I mean really, if fire and earth shattering kabooms can't keep my interest in a movie, it's pretty awful.

Also, any Quentin Tarantino movie. ANY of them.
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Old 11-25-2009, 04:43 AM
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The Usual Suspects. Everybody told me what a great movie it was, and I was pumped when I finally got around to renting it. But, I don't maybe if it was because I was expecting so much, I found it kind of tedious. It felt like they were trying too hard to replicate David Mamet.
When they had the big reveal at the end, I was like "meh." It was kind of cool, I guess, but at that point I just didn't care enough about the story or the characters to get really excited about it.
AMEN. And the big surprise was obvious.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:31 AM
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Worst movie ever! Kubrick and I have... issues.

It did not help that my unwitting mother took me to see this film when I was 13. Most awkward theater experience of my life!
How did that come about!? Surely you must have had some idea what it was about in advance? It was all over the news for months ahead of release.
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