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Old 12-06-2009, 12:01 AM
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The Craziest Serial Killer Story you've never heard of

Yong-Chul Yoo.

Here's the movie made about his crimes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chaser_(film)

I really enjoy reading about and studying serial killers. I think they reveal a fundamental aspect about human nature that we could all benefit from if we could learn why they do what they do.

As a fan of CSI, I find it rather sad that many serial killers before 1990 couldn't be caught because technology wasn't available, and that the evidence can't be used today (usually because of storage issues.)

One of the most famous stories of a serial killer who seemingly had help from a bungling police department was Jeffrey Dahmer, who had one of his drugged victims escape, naked and incoherent, and the police brought him back to Dahmer, dismissing the entire incident as a homosexual lover's spat.

That being said, the story of Yong-Chul has so many absurdities, the film almost seems like a parody or comedy. That is, until you read the real story, and find that the there were so many screw-ups that the reality seems like a parody of the film.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:10 AM
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So uh... what did happen in the story of Yong-Chul? The Wiki link didn't really explain his capture at all. The movie pretty much has him being chased by an ex-cop turned Pimp and the Police releasing him, I'm curious to know how much weirder the real life story was.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:29 AM
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So uh... what did happen in the story of Yong-Chul? The Wiki link didn't really explain his capture at all. The movie pretty much has him being chased by an ex-cop turned Pimp and the Police releasing him, I'm curious to know how much weirder the real life story was.
In a nutshell, he had a homemade hammer, climbed over people's walls, clubbed them to death in their homes, was caught by the police several times but released, one time walking out of the police station when he wasn't being watched, killed over 20 people (and only 2 were reported missing) and one of the times he was caught, the only evidence they had was his full confession...and then he was released again. The only hard evidence they had against him was a partial footprint from one of the early home invasions.

Oh, and in the middle of it, he married a hooker, had a son with her, when he weirded her out and left him, that's when he switched to murdering hookers instead of Christians. Did I mention he preyed on people who attended church?

It took a group of pimps, working together, to piece the puzzle together and figure out it was the same phone number calling when girls disappeared. Yep, a group of pimps did a phone record check, set up a sting, and caught him easily.

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Old 12-06-2009, 03:56 AM
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That is mental.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:36 AM
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I'm not sure what serial killers say about human nature other than, ''Sometimes brain dysfunction causes people to do really fucked up things.''
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:37 PM
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One of the most famous stories of a serial killer who seemingly had help from a bungling police department was Jeffrey Dahmer, who had one of his drugged victims escape, naked and incoherent, and the police brought him back to Dahmer, dismissing the entire incident as a homosexual lover's spat.
There's also John Jamelske. He built a secret basement under his house. He then abducted women off the street and locked them in his basement. He would hold them captive for months while repeatedly raping them. He then released them out on the street somewhere. The thing was the women never knew Jamelske's name or where he lived. And the police found the story that they had been held captive for months and then released to be too unbelievable to take seriously. They'd investigate it but soon drop it because they figured the victim just made up the story to cover up where she had really been.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:11 PM
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Ed Gein. Not really that vicious of a serial killer, but most of the Buffalo Bill stuff from Silence of the Lambs was based on him. Also Psycho. If I remember correctly, he's the real-life guy that has the most movie characters based on stuff he did. Lampshades made of skin, belts of nipples, whole flays of human chests on the wall.
When they went to investigate a couple missing women, they walked through his shed and one of the police officers bumped into a skinned deer hanging from the ceiling. Oops, looks like it wasn't a deer...
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:23 PM
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I believe that Gein only actually killed two people, though. Most of the body parts in his house came from looted graves. He was a necrophile, and a multiple murderer, but I don't think he fit the technical definition of a serial killer.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:35 PM
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He was only convicted of one murder but was suspected in the disappearance of three women. But the shit that was found in his house definitely suits the definition of craziest in my opinion.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:23 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ers_by_country Lots of them in the world, but we still win.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:23 PM
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I'm not sure what serial killers say about human nature other than, ''Sometimes brain dysfunction causes people to do really fucked up things.''
I think there's patterns, and identifying those patterns will help catch them. And maybe, if it's physical, we can give them surgery to prevent them from doing it (although there's all kinds of ethical and rights issues with "preventive behavior modification.")
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:30 PM
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I think there's patterns, and identifying those patterns will help catch them. And maybe, if it's physical, we can give them surgery to prevent them from doing it (although there's all kinds of ethical and rights issues with "preventive behavior modification.")
Oh, I understand the point of studying them. I do hope someone with a far stronger stomach than mine will be able to help these people and prevent these terrible things from happening to others. I just find it really horrifying, in an existential, ''Why should I bother to live in a world where this happens to people?'' kind of way.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:22 PM
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He was only convicted of one murder but was suspected in the disappearance of three women. But the shit that was found in his house definitely suits the definition of craziest in my opinion.
I think it was Robert Bloch who said, when asked why people were fixated on Gein, "Because they haven't heard of Albert Fish."
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:28 PM
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I think it was Robert Bloch who said, when asked why people were fixated on Gein, "Because they haven't heard of Albert Fish."
I was just about to give old Albert a mention. One decidedly dodgy dude.

Here's an interesting link.

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Old 12-06-2009, 04:45 PM
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My fave is Robert Wayne Gacy. He is basically the proof behind the "Wayne as the most evil middle name" idea, and his part time job as a party clown just puts his creepy level into the stratosphere.

Gein, Fish, Dahmer, etc. all fit into the "looked harmless" mold, but Gacy gives nightmares.
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:10 PM
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Earle Leonard Nelson aka The Gorilla Killer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earle_Nelson

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http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/s..._nelson/1.html
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:55 PM
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I am a fan of the Crime Library they have some good stories on there and it's a good way to kill an evening when you're bored.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:41 PM
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Here's another fascinating film/case study that hasn't really hit crimelibrary either, but it's not as interesting a story as Yong-Chul since this one was never solved:

Memories of Murder
The Thursday Night Killer


Nice, crimelibrary mixed up the two.

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Old 12-06-2009, 10:31 PM
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A guy I worked with had a daughter kidnapped and killed by Ted Bundy. I could never broach the subject . I didn't know if he wanted to talk about it or if it would have made him feel better. It hung over everything.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:45 PM
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My fave is Robert Wayne Gacy. He is basically the proof behind the "Wayne as the most evil middle name" idea, and his part time job as a party clown just puts his creepy level into the stratosphere.

Gein, Fish, Dahmer, etc. all fit into the "looked harmless" mold, but Gacy gives nightmares.
Even worse was his brother John Wayne Gacy.


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Old 12-07-2009, 12:16 AM
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Even worse was his brother John Wayne Gacy.

Then there was John Wayne Wilson, A/K/A the "Mr. Goodbar" killer. In the book his name was changed to something like Gary Cooper Wilson.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:06 AM
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Wow... He killed 21 people in ten months. That's an amazing rate for a serial killer.

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Old 12-07-2009, 06:10 AM
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I've just found the craziest serial killer story, ladies and gentlemen I give you Pedro López (aka "Monster of the Andes") who confessed (and is believed) to have killed over 300 girls. Of course like any serial killer, I'm sure he raped a large number of them.

Today he's roaming free on $50 bail thanks to a misguided missionary who saved him from execution and the jaw-droppingly corrupt and incompetent governments of Ecuador and Colombia.
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:11 AM
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On second thought.. I've half a mind that the Wikipedia article on him is a fake. The world is messed up, but surely not that messed up?
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:33 AM
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Harrison Graham who's house was found to have multiple rotting and mummified corpses strewn throughout it. His claim when he was first brought in by police is that they were in the house when he moved in.

And you thought you had landlord problems!
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:36 AM
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Harrison Graham who's house was found to have multiple rotting and mummified corpses strewn throughout it. His claim when he was first brought in by police is that they were in the house when he moved in.

And you thought you had landlord problems!
Well, you know how it is; you move in, are busy with your own stuff and there's just no time to clear out any of the clutter the previous tenants left behind.

Honestly, would anyone use that excuse with a straight face, or any hope of success, for that matter?
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:01 PM
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Honestly, would anyone use that excuse with a straight face, or any hope of success, for that matter?
Look at Harvey Crippen. His wife's dismembered remains are found buried in their basement. But Crippen insists he didn't kill her. However he never offers an alternative theory as to how she died and her body was then chopped up and buried underneath their house.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:40 PM
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On second thought.. I've half a mind that the Wikipedia article on him is a fake. The world is messed up, but surely not that messed up?
Of course it is.

Remember that the cops knew about the Colombine Killers' problems months before the killings, but shrugged it off?
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:45 PM
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On second thought.. I've half a mind that the Wikipedia article on him is a fake. The world is messed up, but surely not that messed up?
I saw the movie first, and I thought it was a parody or comedy. Then, I read the Wiki entry.
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