Ask the housecleaner who specializes in squalor recovery

Dung Beetle suggested I start a thread, so here goes!

I’ve been working as a housecleaner off and on since 1997. Sometimes as my only gig, sometimes to supplement other jobs, and sometimes not at all, if I had a movie or corporate job. For a while, I also had a thing with Merry Maids where, if I didn’t have a job that day, I’d call in and see if I could pick up a shift. But mostly it’s just me, the independent contractor.

My specialty is squalor recovery. I go to those houses where you can’t see the carpet, where the windows are blocked by teetering mounds of junk, and I transform them into…well, not showplaces, but definitely clean living spaces. I also do regular housework, and one-time gigs like cleaning up after the builders have left. But mostly, I help people dig out. So, Dung, whatcha wanna know?

Who normally contracts with you for squalor cleanups? I would assume it’s probably landlords cleaning up after evictions or surviving family members cleaning up their deceased hoarder family member’s house for a sale, but maybe I’m underestimating how many hoarders might really decide to make a change.

Any really bad resident reactions that you’ve been around to deal with?

Is there a single job that stands out to you as the worst?

Anything you’ve found that stands out as the most embarrassing to the resident?

Do you work alone or do you have your own helpers, friends, family help you?

Are you extra vigilant in cleaning your own house, or is it like the cobbler’s children that had no shoes?

Have you seen Sunshine Cleaning? If not, rent it. I loved it. :slight_smile:

Are the owners usually there when you are cleaning? If so, how do they react to you?

Since you’re an independent contractor, how does someone who needs squalor recovery find you? Do you advertise? And if you do, what exactly do you advertise?

Has the “Hoarders” series affected your business, positively or negatively?

Ferret Herder: Actually, most of my clients are people looking to make a change. Not necessarily hoarders, but people who are, for whatever reason, not motivated to clean or even tidy up. Landlords mostly have their regular cleaners, anyway. So mostly my clients are people who looked around one day and said “Enough.”

For instance, one client was a man whose wife had died a little over a year earlier. He was ready to start being social again, but that wasn’t really an option with the house looking the way it did. Another was a woman with four children who had CPS breathing down her neck. Not sure what you mean by “resident reactions,” unless you mean people who’ve been evicted, in which case, no.

Alice: In reverse order, yes, I’m vigilant about my own home. For one thing, it reflects well on me, and for another, cleaning is not a burden for me. Some people can get up every morning at 5am and work out.

I work alone.

As for embarrassing, if you mean individual items, very little fazes me, and I’ve never had a client go “OMG I can’t believe I left that there!” I find the occasional vibrator on a closet shelf or copy of Gigantic Asses in the bathroom, but I never comment (or change their placement). This is California, so I’ve had clients smoke up in front of me and then offer me some. (I have to say no; it would wreck my concentration.)

Okay, worst job. The one that was worst for me personally was so because it was the most frustrating.

Now, to tie in with Brynda’s second question, the owners, assuming it’s a squalor situation and not a basic mop-dust-sweep gig, are always there. It’s up to them how involved they want to get. Some of them would rather stay in another room, at least at first, with me trotting back at intervals to ask “Do you want to keep this?..Shall I take down the curtains?..Where does this belong?” Ideally, they start to relax and become active participants, and what that usually means is, they start sorting through their personal papers that I’ve brought to them because I never throw away a sheet of paper that has writing on it. Then they sort through clothes, toys, and so forth, deciding what can stay and what has to go.

The thing is, I can’t make people’s decisions for them. What I’m really doing is removing the ballast so that they’re free to make decisions. I take care of the physically taxing work of removing the general grot, which makes them feel far less overwhelmed, and that leaves them with the mental and emotional strength they need to deal with the tasks only they can do.

But if that mental and emotional strength can’t be uncovered by the sight of a gleaming, clean bathroom, there’s not much I can do. IANAPsychiatrist. The reason this usually works is because the client was amenable. They had to be, to look for my ad and call me.

Which brings me to the worst client. She had some kind of mental disorder, I’m fairly certain, and in fact, it wasn’t her idea to call me. Her adult son had heard of me from someone else (I also get clients through word-of-mouth), and nagged her to call. So she shadowed me from the moment I got in the door, and not in a good way. Actually, it would be more accurate to say she took me on a tour of her house. She flitted from room to room and I had to follow, listening to her detailed descriptions of exactly what each pile was, and flatly refused to let me move most of it. I couldn’t scrub the entire bathroom floor, for instance, because there were boxes on it that absolutely could not be moved. She mumbled reasons why this moldy item and that empty container had to stay in the fridge, took ten minutes to move one shopping back six inches to one side in the dining room…You get the idea.

So after three days, during which I was not able to complete one task, her son stopped me on my way out and gave me my pay and a little extra for my trouble, and that was that. Sad, really. But that’s the only time a client was uncooperative.

I’ve got some gross stories, but I’ll get to them in another post.

And I never heard of Sunshine Cleaning. ::checks IMDB:: Huh. Well, if it’s voluntary cleaning of biohazards, it’s not my line!

ETA: freckafree: I advertise online. I also have business cards, and as I said, word gets around. I advertise squalor recovery as well as basic cleaning. No one’s ever mentioned Hoarders.

Kim? Aggie?

I kid, I kid.
Is there anything you absolutely refuse to touch (grossness-wise)?
My boyfriend and I are currently living in the house we’re in the process of buying (nice sellers). The previous owner put carpet in the bathroom. It’s been there for over 40 years. It’s gross. We don’t want to remove it until the place is officially ours.
So, how do I cover the smell?
Our wood walls have soot marks from the baseboard heaters. I’ve tried cleaning it off with no success. Any ideas?

No, but I love them! I think I’ve seen every episode of the British series, and most of the series on Lifetime. Kim has her own show now, but I haven’t watched it yet.

Animal waste, human waste, used feminine products, the aforementioned dead animals, hypodermic needles regardless of what they were used for. IOW, anything that’s a biohazard.

First, steam clean the carpet to remove, or at least reduce, the source. You can rent a steam cleaner at grocery stores around here. If there’s still a lingering odor after that, you have a range of options, from burning incense to installing a charcoal odor eliminator. But I’d have to know how bad it is to make a recommmendation.

Wood? You mean wood paneling? Real wood or fake? If it’s real wood, I recommend soapy water and a soft-bristled brush. Scrub gently, following the grain of the wood. Rinse the brush repeatedly and change the water often. If it’s a glossy paneling with no grain, same deal except use a cellulose sponge and scrub in a circular motion. One of those big, rubbery-feeling ones that looks like an actual sea sponge. And be prepared to spend a long time at it. Most dirt will move, if you’re patient. Sometimes you just gotta be very patient.

I was thinking about things like people who had a cleaning job sprung on them by others (roommates, spouses, etc.), that kind of thing. Sounds like that hasn’t been an issue in your case.

What do you charge for squaller mitigation, and what area do you work ?

$9/hr, although I’m thinking of raising my rates. I’m in Los Angeles.

Ferret Herder, do people really do that?

You should be getting double that, $15/hr at the very least.

I don’t understand what was meant by “squalor mitigation”. Was that just a joking term for cleaning service? Because if you only get paid $9 / hour for actual hard cleaning work… that is very surprising.

I’ve paid a couple of different “Merry Maids” type people from $80 - $150 to clean my moderate squalor in a tiny studio apartment for 2-3- hours work. This was in San Francisco.
On edit: I think I had to pay for steam carpet cleaning one of those times. That ups the price considerably.

I think you need to raise your rates. My aunt cleans houses, nice big ones without any squalor and she charges $20 an hour.

What do you do with large items, like broken beds or tables, or with large pieces of broken glass? How do you motivate yourself for the place that smell horrid?

Thanks for starting this thread.

Wow! That seems just absurdly cheap for urban California. Especially considering the level of filth you’d have to deal with. I think you need to think harder about raising those rates - the New Year is a traditional time for such things, y’know :).

I have heard stories of people who do stuff like that; when it’s something like “person with health issues lets house go to shit, then goes into hospital to get fixed up and family/friends get the place cleaned up” it’s much better than “actual hoarder who doesn’t want the place cleaned goes away on vacation/has to go to the hospital and family/friends take advantage of the time to clean.”

In your opinion, what’s the best carpet-cleaning product? Is there anything that can remove old stains from food or drink?

No humor intended. I used that term to distinguish from what Merry Maids or similar could/should be expected to deal with…the sort of place that CPS would remove the kids from as soon as they saw the condition, rather than just telling the parent they needed to put more effort into cleaning.

ETA: At that rate, or even 2X, If I were in LA I would so be contacting the OP!

I just have to chime in and say that from a Springfield, MO point of view, $9/hour is not nearly enough!

Interesting thread Rilchiam.