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Old 05-04-2010, 12:51 PM
John_Stamos'_Left_Ear John_Stamos'_Left_Ear is offline
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Wigging out: A Question About Wigs for Men

I am a male with long hair. I've had it since I was a teenager and even at my age, 20+ years past my teenage years, I like it this way. So does the wife. I'd rather not cut it.

I have an opportunity to get a job in a new field however it requires that men have short hair. I have given thought to, instead of cutting it, getting a wig that I would wear while working.

While doing internet searches, all I can come across is wigs for females and wigs better suited for proselytizing at sporting events. I know that I should be able to find a wig for a man that is realistic and can cover up properly-pined long hair (actors and stuntmen wear wigs all the time). I think it might be expensive but that's okay as long as it looks natural... Can someone point me in the right direction?

I live in the Philadelphia area and would travel to NYC or somewhere else within a few hours if need be.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:05 PM
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I have a friend who had a very long (well, tall, I guess) mohawk when I met him. He eats breakfast with his grandmother every week and didn't want to upset her, so he went down to Main Street and asked the ladies at the wig store. They thought he was the cutest thing they'd ever seen in their lives and fixed him up with a short wig that did fine.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:09 PM
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Why does the new job require short hair? Is it a safety thing, or a professional appearance thing?
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:15 PM
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The classic option.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:23 PM
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Be prepared to be the laughing stock at work.

Besides how long does it take to pin up your hair properly to fit it under a wig so it doesn't even worse than a man with a wig on would?
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:37 PM
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These look pretty normal to me.

Make sure you get a stocking sock for your hair and just pin the wig on. Be prepared to sweat.
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:40 PM
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Besides how long does it take to pin up your hair properly to fit it under a wig so it doesn't even worse than a man with a wig on would?
This is a very good point. Back in university I did some backstage stuff with the drama department and for some show all the women in the chorus had to have the same haircut (kind of like Uma Therman in Pulp Fiction's hair). One girl had a modeling contract and was not allowed to cut her long, luscious, woody-inducing locks of gorgeousness.

Damn was it hard to get her hair squished up under a wig! She must've needed a thousand of those hair doodads (the hair pin things that they pretend to pick locks with in the movies).
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:22 PM
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Hate to say it, but it's obvious when it is a wig or hairpiece. I have always been able to tell. Even those in SeaDragon Tattoo's link are obvious to me.

So, unless you don't mind at least some folks noticing it's a wig, someone will know :/
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:20 PM
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These look pretty normal to me.

Make sure you get a stocking sock for your hair and just pin the wig on. Be prepared to sweat.
Those actually look terrible to me - very few of them look at all natural.
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:46 AM
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That's the cool thing about hair - it can grow back.

Of course, you could be like me. I cut my shoulder length hair about ten years ago on a whim (it can always grow back), and discovered that I didn't have to spend fifteen minutes every morning drying and taming it. I was ready to go within five minutes after leaving the shower.

I never went back.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:48 AM
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Hate to say it, but it's obvious when it is a wig or hairpiece.
Of course those are just the ones you see. The good ones you can't tell, or can you ?
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:21 PM
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Yes, actually, I've pointed out hair pieces/wigs on many occasions and those with me were quite surprised. I suppose if they're made with human hair, it would be harder, but, I just can tell It may be the part (if there's one) and/or at the base where it meets the skin. It just is different. I suppose I've missed a few now and again
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:29 PM
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IMO the best looking hairpiece makes others wonder IF it is fake. The less successful ones leave no question.

I think the issue somewhat silly. Hair grows back. If you want the job, cut it off. That your long hair is so important to you that you would even consider this impresses me as somewhat odd - and not entirely mature.
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:33 PM
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Well, since you have to cut your hair for the job, you could always have your long hair turned into a wig, and wear it when you're not a work.
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:26 PM
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Seriously - how much do you want this job?
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:26 PM
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In my experience, guys who won't cut their hair are afraid to because they're so used to it the way it is. They tell themselves it's who they are. They've been wearing it the same damn way they've worn it since they were 15 years old, and they look ridiculous. Maybe you like it this way, but I'd bet that if you get a decent haircut, you'll learn to like it, too.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:40 PM
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Hate to say it, but it's obvious when it is a wig or hairpiece. I have always been able to tell. Even those in SeaDragon Tattoo's link are obvious to me.

So, unless you don't mind at least some folks noticing it's a wig, someone will know :/
Not necessarily. The first time I wore my wig out in public during chemo, I was actually stopped on the street by a girl who wanted to know if I'd be willing to be a hair model for her cosmetology class. I think it's safe to presume she didn't know it wasn't real hair.

On the other hand, it was a $500 wig, purchased from a shop that specializes in cancer patients, and it had a monofiliment top, which makes it look like real scalp (more expensive than regular wigs). If you're in the Chicago area, it was Jerome Krause Fashion Hair in Skokie.

I've also been surprised myself: while in the waiting/prep area for day surgery, I saw the nurses talking with someone with beautiful black hair. Then she took her hair off and handed it to the nurse. If I hadn't seen her do that, I never would have guessed.

I also have very little trouble putting my hair either of my wigs. I don't need a hair sock (and actually, they give me pressure headaches anyway). You just slide the wig on from front hairline to back, make sure the temples are properly placed, and then tuck your hair under like tucking it into a swimming cap. My short wig is an ear-length bob, and this works fine, and I have have the wig on in under two minutes. For a short-short men's style, you may need a little extra time to make sure there aren't any strays, but not that much.

The big thing is to make sure the wig fits properly. If it doesn't, it will look fake (and will try to slide off). Jerome Krause also custom fits their wigs to your head, included in the price.

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Old 05-05-2010, 09:54 PM
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Take a look at my pics in the portrait gallery in MPSIMS. I've always had long hair and loved it. I cut it all off in January and even though it took awhile to get used to it it does not bother me that it's gone. Mind you I haven't got it cut since, but I will soon.
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:01 AM
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Take a look at my pics in the portrait gallery in MPSIMS. I've always had long hair and loved it. I cut it all off in January and even though it took awhile to get used to it it does not bother me that it's gone. Mind you I haven't got it cut since, but I will soon.
We need an "after" photo for OP inspiration.
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Old 05-06-2010, 06:04 PM
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As someone who covers her hair for religious reasons, occasionally with a wig, and lives in a community of other women who do so, I have to echo Kaio. With a good wig (high-quality, unprocessed human hair, monofilament top, made by someone who knows what they're doing), it shouldn't be at all obvious except perhaps to people from wig-wearing communities. (Trust black women and Orthodox Jewish women if they say someone's wearing a wig. We know.) If this is something you're really committed to doing, spend money, or everybody will make fun of you behind your back for your bad toupee. My wig cost $2400, but a short one should be much, much cheaper - $400-500 or so.

That said, what texture is your hair? I have long, thick, wavy-curly hair, and I have to keep it slightly shorter than I might otherwise like in order to get it up under my Fake Hair without it making the whole thing sit up too high on the top of my head. This still means that my hair is longer than the bottoms of my shoulder blades, but my favorite mid-back length is a bit longer than I can stuff up under a wig. Your hair is probably thinner than mine, so you might not have this issue.

There are various ways of putting long hair under a wig, although I'm not sure how well all of them work under short wigs as I've never tried it. I currently switch off between pinning up my hair in 10-15 sections with bobby pins, getting it as flat as possible against my head (more comfortable, bad for the netting of the Fake Hair, and takes ten minutes), and using a wig cap (fast, easy, leads to a slight headache from head-squeezing, and will probably be hot in the summer months). Many wigs also have a small pouch in the back, designed to hold your hair; my wig has this, but my braid kept falling out no matter what I did. Putting my hair up in two small buns (get your mind out of the gutter) at the base of my neck works for me, but wouldn't be hidden under a short wig, plus I really don't like the sensation of the buns pressing into the nape of my neck whenever I look up at all.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:53 PM
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As someone who covers her hair for religious reasons, occasionally with a wig, and lives in a community of other women who do so, I have to echo Kaio. With a good wig (high-quality, unprocessed human hair, monofilament top, made by someone who knows what they're doing), it shouldn't be at all obvious except perhaps to people from wig-wearing communities. (Trust black women and Orthodox Jewish women if they say someone's wearing a wig. We know.) If this is something you're really committed to doing, spend money, or everybody will make fun of you behind your back for your bad toupee. My wig cost $2400, but a short one should be much, much cheaper - $400-500 or so.
Just to note, neither of my wigs is human hair (both are synthetic), and I apparently "passed" just fine. Human hair wigs are hella expensive, and the lady at the wig shop said they were also harder to care for.

Of course neither of mine are as short as a men's style, so cost and wig care may be less of an issue (less hair to wash).

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Old 05-06-2010, 11:03 PM
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Synthetic hair always looks odd to me - the sheen is slightly different from real hair, even with good synthetics. This may or may not bother you.

My wig is curly, so it doesn't require 'setting' (being styled to give it some sort of body) like straight human-hair wigs do, and I wash it myself. I grant that this is a pain in the butt, but it only needs to be done every fifteen wearings or so, and one does get better, and faster, at it. In contrast, synthetics hold their shape, and don't need to be styled - you couldn't even if you wanted to, so no giving it a bit of curl one day for fun. That said, I'd imagine that a short man's wig would be easy enough to style, even for a layperson, with no curlers or blow-dryers necessary. Synthetics do not last as long, which may not be an issue if you're not planning on wearing it for a long period of time, eg for chemo, plus the cost differential may be enough that it's worth it to get a new synthetic every six months rather than a new human hair one after several years. Do your research.
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:18 AM
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Eh...

For shits and giggles, I took pictures so you can see for yourself if you can tell which is real and which isn't.

One is my real hair, one is the wig.

one

two

In my experience, people out in the world see exactly what they expect to see.
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Old 05-07-2010, 02:29 AM
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Eh...

For shits and giggles, I took pictures so you can see for yourself if you can tell which is real and which isn't.

One is my real hair, one is the wig.

one

two

In my experience, people out in the world see exactly what they expect to see.
100_3670.JPG is the wig?
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:38 PM
John_Stamos'_Left_Ear John_Stamos'_Left_Ear is offline
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I went to a store that is only minutes from my house on a whim and was taken care of nicely. We picked out a hair color that nicely approximated my current hair color - black with a healthy amount of gray in it. She showed me how to put my hair up in a cap and to put the wig on. The wife saw the whole process and will be able to assist me if need be but I think I can do it myself. It's a little snug but it will stretch out. Plus it's human hair so it won't get too sweaty (casino floors tend to stay at cold temperatures anyway). It was also only $35 which astounds me!

I wore it out as a trial run. A woman who saw me enter was smiling at me and saying "That's a big difference!" She said she couldn't tell that it was a wig if she didn't know. The wife says it looks like I have a bad haircut which I'd rather have than actually get a haircut.

We went out to eat dinner and then grab some ice cream. I walked around and watched as I was ignored by just about everyone. I sensed no difference in how people approached me. At one point the wife caught me out of the corner of her eye coming towards her and for a split second she did not comprehend that it was me.

The advantage of being a guy in this situation is that most people won't look very closely at my hair. It might look like a bad haircut. Even if someone suspects it is a wig, most males who wear wigs do so because of things people won't really bring up in casual conversation: So is it cancer or alopecia? Would you ask these questions of someone whose only interraction with you was to give you cards and push you pots for 30 minutes at a time?

I am not worried about being a "laughing stock," as someone else put it. I am 41 years old and quite confident in who I am and how I want to look. The idea about being ashamed of how I want to look when I am not on the clock is silly to me. Maybe some people live their lives for the approval of others. Maybe I did - when I was 16.

My job will be 40 or more hours per week but I will get to look how I want to the rest of the time. This is important to me. It may not be to others but I found a pretty awesome quote on the subject online:

"Long hair is much more than just a thing of vanity for me. It is tradition.... identity.... and even spirituality. When I feel my hair on my back, I am reminded of the years it has taken to grow, and how I too have grown."

Thanks to everyone for their feedback!

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Old 05-09-2010, 02:15 AM
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I would wear a wig, if I could be sure my "hair" wouldn't look like Donald Trump's!
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:03 PM
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"Long hair is much more than just a thing of vanity for me. It is tradition.... identity.... and even spirituality. When I feel my hair on my back, I am reminded of the years it has taken to grow, and how I too have grown."
Where the hell was this back in January when I cut all mine off!!!

Just kidding but I can absolutely relate and will use it in the future...when my hair grows back!

Hope you don't mind if I use this on facebook.

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Old 05-09-2010, 07:06 PM
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We went out to eat dinner and then grab some ice cream. I walked around and watched as I was ignored by just about everyone. I sensed no difference in how people approached me.
Well, most people are going to be polite and ignore it, whether they notice it or not; the average stranger on the street is not going to point at your head and scream "WIG!! WIG!!" So the response you got does not necessarily mean that no one noticed. Just like when someone has spinach in their teeth or their skirt shoved into their pantyhose in the back, most people are going to politely ignore it.

It's a different situation in a work environment, when people are close enough for extended periods of time, under fluorescent lighting, to notice. And even then, they are unlikely to question you about it to your face. I'm guessing that most will assume you are bald, for whatever reason.

At my former employment, there was a gentlemen who wore a hairpiece, an obvious one; and then suddenly after many years, he showed up one day without it. No one had EVER said a word to him (to his face) about the hairpiece in all those years, although there were many comments about it when he was not present. But when he came in without it, he had dozens and dozens of compliments on how much better he looked without it. There is a man at my current job who wears what appears to be almost a full wig (you can see his real hair at the back of his head, but most of his head is covered by the wig), and nobody has ever mentioned it to him; I don't know if he thinks people can tell or not. Yes, we can.

I can't imagine that you can get a completely "natural" look to a short wig when you've got a lot of hair wrapped up under it, there's going to be some amount of fullness that can't be hidden. But, I doubt that anyone will question you about it, they will probably just assume that you have a personal or medical reason for wearing a wig. Hollywood experts can make wigs look realistic with the help of makeup and lighting; most everyday folks don't have those skills.

If you want to keep your long hair and wear a wig, I say, have at it - whatever works for you. I wouldn't assume that it is not noticeable; it probably is. But if you don't care that some co-workers may notice, then go for it.
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:11 PM
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100_3670.JPG is the wig?
Yep.

I always thought it was at least somewhat obvious too, which was why getting asked to hair model surprised the crap outta me. This was even before I'd had the wig altered to fit -- once I no longer had hair to stuff up inside it, it was too big, and kept creeping backwards.

Of course, I knew it was a wig, and the thing is, the vast majority of people you encounter on the street just aren't going to be looking that closely. Total strangers on the subway don't care enough to scrutinize your hair. It may be more obvious with a short wig, I dunno; but for the most part I don't think very many people will look at your hair for more than a split second, and short of a truly awful wig like Donald Trump, no one's going to pay attention long enough to notice.

I wore the wig on a temp job shortly after I went into remission; I wore it for six weeks until my real hair was long enough to pretend it was a pixie-cut-on-purpose (I never told any of them that I'd been sick). From what I could tell, the day I walked into the office without the wig for the first time, exactly one guy twigged to the fact that there was something more going on beyond a dramatic haircut. And even he didn't quite figure it out until he'd thought about it for a while -- his first reaction was "Wow, that's a dramatic change!" I think it took a minute or two before his brain caught up with his mouth.
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Old 05-10-2010, 02:03 PM
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Well, most people are going to be polite and ignore it, whether they notice it or not; the average stranger on the street is not going to point at your head and scream "WIG!! WIG!!" So the response you got does not necessarily mean that no one noticed. Just like when someone has spinach in their teeth or their skirt shoved into their pantyhose in the back, most people are going to politely ignore it.

And I hate to sound nasty, but if you want something that looks even half-way natural, $35 is NOT going to cut it. That's like, Halloween costume territory.

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Old 05-10-2010, 02:13 PM
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In college I met this guy's wife and I noticed her hair looked really strange for someone who was around 25. Her hair was short and a weird style. I mentioned this to someone and she told me the strange hair was a wig because all her real hair fell out. Once I knew it was a wig it made sense but before that I just thought it was a bad style for her. BTW, she did not lose her hair due to cancer treatment or any physical illness. Speculation was that it was due to stress.

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Old 06-21-2011, 06:07 AM
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A quick update on this for those who care:

It's been a little over a year since I started wearing the wig. I initially didn't tell anyone it was a wig and many people I worked with who saw me with long hair in training commented on the new look, some complimentary. I also posted photos of myself and friends who saw the pix did not know anything was amiss.

Gradually, a few people did find out it was a wig. One woman who I was in training with saw it when it was not put on as well as it should have been and mentioned it to a few more people. It wasn't a big deal to anyone.

In that time, I had - and still have - people come up to me and ask me, very unsure, if it's a wig. At this point I just say that it is. But I have also had people say things like "Did you get a haircut?" and be honestly surprised when I said I didn't. Or the other employee who said tro me how much she loved my hair - and I told her for $35 she could have it herself!

One time after work a bunch of us went to hit a diner. I was with some people who I assumed knew I wore a wig. I even made a comment about how it would be good to "let my hair down." They didn't know and thought it was a metaphor because when I pulled off the wig and whipped my real hair around, they were all shocked and amazed.

The end result of the year is that it's a bit of a pain in the ass and can sometimes get hot but I feel like it's just a part of my uniform, no different than anything else I have to wear. Some people joke with me about it, but it's all in good fun. And it's really cool when I show up at poker games with people from work and they see me saunter in and they didn't know about my situation.

There are some people who work with me (in another department but the same job description) who have long hair and I have sometimes thought of pointing at them as evidence I should be able to pin it up, but I fear that doing so would only make them have to get their hair cut and that would really bum me out so I just deal with it.

End result: I get to keep my long hair yet still have a job that I love making pretty good money. It works for me and the minor inconvenience is more than worth getting to look like how I feel I look best all the other hours of my life I am not working. Definitely a win-win for me.
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