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Old 05-19-2010, 10:27 AM
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Hotels and prostitutes

I was at what I took to be a fairly high end hotel for a conference a few months ago. (I wouldn't really know, and I wasn't staying there so I don't know how much the rooms were, but it seemed pretty damned fancy to me.)

In between sessions at this conference, I was feeling really exhausted and wishing I had a room at the hotel so I could get in a quick nap. On a lark, I went to the concierge's desk to ask if maybe they had a "nap room" for hotel workers or something like that that I could borrow. (I don't know, you never know, you know?)

I prefaced this a bit awkwardly. I said something like "This is going to be a strange question. It might be a totally inapprpriate question, actually."

The concierge smiled a perfectly friendly smile, and said as straighlaced as you can imagine, "Are you asking about a hooker?"

So I clarified what I was asking about and the rest of the story isn't interesting. But here's my question--two of them in fact:

I can only assume that concierges at fairly fancy hotels actually do get asked about the availability of prostitutes quite regularly, or else I don't know how to account for how quickly she jumped to that conclusion. Am I right about this? Do people actually regularly go around asking hotel staff about this kind of thing? (And not just random staff they meet, but the specific person on staff assigned to help them find services as an official representative of the hotel?)

And the second question: Do hotels really do this? Was the lady getting ready to accomodate my request, or was she getting ready to rebuff it?

I mean, I'd assume they don't do it, since I assume the legal troubles they might get in could be severe. On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a "look the other way" element to this on the part of law enforcement.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:53 AM
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I worked as the desk clerk at a Super 8 for a while.

I did indeed pretty much get asked about hookers (or even my own availability as a working girl) on a fairly regular basis. People who go to hotels are often looking to do stuff they cannot do at home, and you wouldn't believe how ballsy some people are. For some people, getting a hooker is just part of the business trip routine.

Hookers bring problems- police, angry spouses, drugs, etc. At my small motel, at least, the live-in managers would rather be getting sleep than dealing with domestic disputes and the like, so we worked pretty hard to keep johns from using our hotel. For example, we didn't routinely rent to local customers unless they had some really good excuse.

Overseas, all bets are off. In Chinese hotels it's not uncommon for hookers to call your room at odd hours. Some Cameroonian hotels would have them sitting on plastic chairs all lined up in the lobby!
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:59 AM
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Some years ago I was in the Sheraton in Stockholm, with a young lady who was on the same course as I.

She nodded to some supremely elegant and beautiful young women sitting at the bar. I was perplexed and she told me that they were all hookers. It would never have entered my head (especially in her company! She was more worldly wise however)
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:02 AM
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Oh, yeah. Totally normal. I have a friend who's a night auditor at a nice hotel and he directs people to the "escorts" section of the phone book when asked.
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:04 AM
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I worked the evening shift at the front desk of one of the nicer hotels in Daytona Beach while I was in college. I was asked about hookers on an infrequent basis, but it was not an uncommon question. Maybe once a month or so. Not so much about rooms for prostitutes, but rather where to go in town to find one.
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:16 AM
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What language to people use to ask? Is it straightforward, "Hey, where can I get a hooker in these parts?" or is it more slantward, "Is there...uh...someplace to find a ... date....around here? NudgenudgewinkwinkknowotImean?"

I'd be terrified that asking outright would land me in the middle of a sting. I don't really grok how this stuff works. I have a secret fear of being someplace and having someone assume I'm a prostitute and I'd not know when they were trying to hire me until it was too late to extricate myself safely. Seriously, it makes me really anxious sometimes!
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:41 AM
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What language to people use to ask? Is it straightforward, "Hey, where can I get a hooker in these parts?" or is it more slantward, "Is there...uh...someplace to find a ... date....around here? NudgenudgewinkwinkknowotImean?"
Both. I usually just directed them to the part of town where one may find such services.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:03 PM
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I just quickly scanned the OP and for a minute or so I thought it was about how he asked about a "nap room" and the clerk thought he was inquiring about a room you could rent for an hour or so to spend with a hooker.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:23 PM
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My guess is that at high end hotels they'll just direct you to an escort service. Concierges at those places aren't in the business of rebuffing well heeled clients.
And by directing them to an escort service (rather than say the nearest crack whore corner), they can also claim plausible deniability - the ol' excuse "hey, the guy is just paying for the girl's time and anything else that happens to occur is simply a private matter."
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:30 PM
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I just quickly scanned the OP and for a minute or so I thought it was about how he asked about a "nap room" and the clerk thought he was inquiring about a room you could rent for an hour or so to spend with a hooker.
That is what it's about.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:05 PM
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Some Cameroonian hotels would have them sitting on plastic chairs all lined up in the lobby!
I stayed at one like that in Doula when I was on a project there. Our team included two other guys about my age, and an older, very distinguished scientist who was the head of a major research organization who I'll call Gerald. I and the other two guys had rooms on the second floor, and Gerald was on the fourth.

One evening when we were coming back from dinner, one of the young ladies got up and joined us as we entered the elevator.

As the door closed, she sidled up to Gerald, and asked him very politely, "Excuse me sir, are you sleeping alone tonight?"

Gerald turned bright red, and stammered out "But, but, I'm married!"

Gerald's new friend looked at him very quizzically, and said, "Your wife, she is here with you?"

At that point we reached our floor. As the rest of us stepped out, leaving Gerald with the young lady, we could see the sweat popping out on his brow as he tried to figure out what to say next.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:19 PM
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Many desk clerks earn money by referrals.

I worked the overnight shift in hotels for years and that is a common question.

But I've never heard of a "nap room" before

Why would any business have a room for their employees to sleep in? And if there is such a business, where can I get a job like that
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:50 PM
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Many desk clerks earn money by referrals.

I worked the overnight shift in hotels for years and that is a common question.

But I've never heard of a "nap room" before

Why would any business have a room for their employees to sleep in? And if there is such a business, where can I get a job like that
Well I wasn't thinking of an official, sanction space for napping.

I had in mind something more like what I saw in a recent episode of The Office, where a lot of the maintenance workers habitually napped on this particular shelf in their work area. At a place I used to work at, it was common for people pulling doubles to take a short nap between the two shifts, and there was this particular spot the naps usually took place. That's what I was asking after. I didn't just want to plop down on a hotel couch in public, risking potential embarrasment for both myself and the hotel staff.

It turned out, by the way, that that's exactly what she invited me to do--just plop down on a couch.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:52 PM
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That is what it's about.
No, I hadn't mentioned anything about naps or rooms before she jumped to the hooker conclusion.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:52 PM
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So I clarified what I was asking about and the rest of the story isn't interesting.
Well did they have a "nap room" for you to use?
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:00 PM
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I had in mind something more like what I saw in a recent episode of The Office, where a lot of the maintenance workers habitually napped on this particular shelf in their work area.

And how'd that work out for Jim and Pam? ..shudder..
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:18 PM
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Why would any business have a room for their employees to sleep in? And if there is such a business, where can I get a job like that
Look at your local fire station.

They commonly have a dorm area for the firefighters to sleep, on duty, being paid. But as they are on duty for 48 hours straight, and might be awakened at any time by a fire call, I do NOT want a job like that.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:29 PM
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As the rest of us stepped out, leaving Gerald with the young lady, we could see the sweat popping out on his brow as he tried to figure out what to say next.
You academic types! Suck sticks in the mud. I'm sure someone like James Bond would have immediately known what to say next.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:31 PM
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I usually just directed them to the part of town where one may find such services.
I'm not a law enforcement agent looking to arrest someone, but wouldn't this be similar to aiding and abetting a crime? Did the management have a policy on this (saying "yes, help the customer" or "no, don't do it")?
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:32 PM
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Look at your local fire station.

They commonly have a dorm area for the firefighters to sleep, on duty, being paid. But as they are on duty for 48 hours straight, and might be awakened at any time by a fire call, I do NOT want a job like that.
Same goes for hospitals. And some Army companies have rooms for their night watches to take a little nap.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:34 PM
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Suck sticks in the mud.
That's another story, and it happened in Gabon, not Cameroon.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:36 PM
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I meant to say "Such sticks in the mud", but your response is intriguing and perhaps you can share that story sometime.

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Old 05-19-2010, 02:47 PM
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Both. I usually just directed them to the part of town where one may find such services.
US1? (Ridgewood)
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:17 PM
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I meant to say "Such sticks in the mud", but your response is intriguing and perhaps you can share that story sometime.
It's a story too painful to go into, but it happened in a swamp in Monts Doudou National Park, at a camp we referred to as Deep Doudou.

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Old 05-19-2010, 03:30 PM
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:46 PM
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That's another story, and it happened in Gabon, not Cameroon.
A guy walks into a third world hotel in a war-torn country and asks for a room. Desk Clerk: "That'll be 50 bucks and that includes a hooker".
Customer :" I don't want a girl, I just need a room"
Desk Clerk: "That'll be 75 bucks"
Customer: "WTF?"
Desk Clerk: "Because then we have to find somewhere else for the girl to sleep"
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:21 PM
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My guess is that at high end hotels they'll just direct you to an escort service. Concierges at those places aren't in the business of rebuffing well heeled clients.
This. Although they won't be so lazy as to just direct you to an escort service, that rather misses the point of concierge...
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:34 PM
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An English colleague once explained to me, that, when visiting the company's headquarters in Brussels, you should get a room in the hotel on the highest floor possible. His logic was that it gave you more time to haggle down the rate with the prostitute that would inevitably join you as you took the lift to the top.

Turns out I never did stay in that particular hotel, so I can't account for his accuracy, although I don't know that he had any reason to embellish.

Personally, I've spent a lot of time traveling for business, and have a hard time coming up with any place that I've stayed that had obvious prostitutes in the hotels. I know that there are some hotels in Bangkok where you'll see a lot of women who are likely to be prostitutes, but mostly they are already with their "boyfriends" for the time. And you mainly see them at the breakfast buffet.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:24 PM
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Here in Panama, there is one hotel where the attached casino is a well-known hangout for hookers. The hotel itself, however, seems to vary from time to time whether it will allow the girls to accompany guests to their rooms. Mostly it seems to be OK, but sometimes they do a crackdown and make them go elsewhere.

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Old 05-19-2010, 06:32 PM
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Personally, I've spent a lot of time traveling for business, and have a hard time coming up with any place that I've stayed that had obvious prostitutes in the hotels. I know that there are some hotels in Bangkok where you'll see a lot of women who are likely to be prostitutes, but mostly they are already with their "boyfriends" for the time. And you mainly see them at the breakfast buffet.
An "obvious prostitute" is not a good prostitute.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:33 PM
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On one of my trips to Paris I had a lot of stiff muscles after two flights and a long wait between them. I asked the concierge whether someone was available for a massage . . . then it took a while to convince him that I really did need a massage . . . and nothing more.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:51 PM
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My ex-BF was a massage therapist (the legit, licensed kind), and for a while he had an on-call gig at a very high-end local hotel to do massages in guest rooms during hours when the health club (where the hotel normally provided legit massage services) wasn't open. After the 3rd or 4th time he got propositioned by clients (all men), he figured out why the previous incumbent of his position had been fired. He got tired of explaining to the previous guy's regular clients that he wasn't in the business of providing happy endings, so he quit.

Also, in 1995 I was in Moscow for a few days in grad school as part of a summer study program, and our whole group, maybe 40 undergrad and grad students, was staying in a hotel in a rather non-touristy part of town (presumably because it was cheap). My boyfriend from the previous year, a Russian Fulbright scholar and historian of a subunit of the Russian Federation Academy of Sciences, wanted to head down our way so we could hang out and chat a bit (to make a long story short, it was impossible to get rubles legally outside of Russia then, and we'd landed on the Saturday night of a long holiday weekend, so everything was closed and there was literally no way for me to get money legally so I could, say, get on a bus and go to his place).

The hotel security wouldn't let him upstairs unless he left his ID at the front desk. When I complained, their explanation was "well, what if something happens to you? We need to know where to find him." Yeah, my historian boyfriend is a hooker...whatever.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:01 PM
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It turned out, by the way, that that's exactly what she invited me to do--just plop down on a couch.
How much did she charge you - and wasn't the lack of privacy a problem?
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:14 PM
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I stayed at one like that in Doula when I was on a project there. Our team included two other guys about my age, and an older, very distinguished scientist who was the head of a major research organization who I'll call Gerald. I and the other two guys had rooms on the second floor, and Gerald was on the fourth.

One evening when we were coming back from dinner, one of the young ladies got up and joined us as we entered the elevator.

As the door closed, she sidled up to Gerald, and asked him very politely, "Excuse me sir, are you sleeping alone tonight?"

Gerald turned bright red, and stammered out "But, but, I'm married!"

Gerald's new friend looked at him very quizzically, and said, "Your wife, she is here with you?"

At that point we reached our floor. As the rest of us stepped out, leaving Gerald with the young lady, we could see the sweat popping out on his brow as he tried to figure out what to say next.
"What will you do for a dollar?"
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:21 PM
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An "obvious prostitute" is not a good prostitute.
Only if they are trying to work a place where they are not allowed to. Otherwise, it pays to advertise.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:23 PM
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How much did she charge you - and wasn't the lack of privacy a problem?
It was free, and I should clarify I didn't lay on the couch, I just sat and closed my eyes, lightly snoozing for a half hour or so.

Okay, well, enough about the nap.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:24 PM
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The hotel security wouldn't let him upstairs unless he left his ID at the front desk. When I complained, their explanation was "well, what if something happens to you? We need to know where to find him." Yeah, my historian boyfriend is a hooker...whatever.
What am I missing here? Why are you attributing to them a suspicion that he's a hooker? What they said doesn't seem to have anything to do with that...
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:45 AM
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On one of my trips to Paris I had a lot of stiff muscles after two flights and a long wait between them. I asked the concierge whether someone was available for a massage . . . then it took a while to convince him that I really did need a massage . . . and nothing more.
I once met a bloke in London who had had the same problem after walking around for a couple of days, so he looked up "Massage" in What's On (could have been Time Out). He did not get exactly what he wanted and commented to me that the magazine in question had strange adverts.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:42 AM
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I once met a bloke in London who had had the same problem after walking around for a couple of days, so he looked up "Massage" in What's On (could have been Time Out). He did not get exactly what he wanted and commented to me that the magazine in question had strange adverts.
On an unrelated note, my wife and I were visiting Suzhou, China and while buying some stinky tofu from a snack place the guy asked me (or us) "Ma sa ji?" My wife had no idea what he was trying to say until I pointed out that he was speaking English, not Chinese.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:54 AM
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On an unrelated note, my wife and I were visiting Suzhou, China and while buying some stinky tofu from a snack place the guy asked me (or us) "Ma sa ji?" My wife had no idea what he was trying to say until I pointed out that he was speaking English, not Chinese.
"Ma sa ji?" means "massage(e) ?"

Many times when I have traveled in China, within 5 minutes of checking into a hotel the phone will ring and the only English word is "massagee ?"
It does not matter if I am alone or traveling with my girlfriend.
Does this also happen to the Chinese, or is it only because I am a foreigner ?
Would they also offer this to a Chinese man traveling with his wife or girlfriend ?

I always say "no", but I think I am correct in guessing that it is an offer of a prostitute.
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:57 AM
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When I was single and checking into three- and four-star hotels in Thailand alone, the guy carrying the bags more often than not asked if I needed a girl.

And once in Loei, up in the Northeast, I had ordered some beer from room service, and the guy delivered it while the wife was in the bathroom, so he thought I was alone and offered to find me some company.

Three years ago in Shanghai, the phone rang in our hotel room one evening. I answered it, and a Chinese lady on the other end went, in English: "YOU ... WANT ... MASSAGE???" I replied: "Uh, no, thank you. My wife is here, and she can massage me." "OH. OKAY. HAHA." Click. She must have made a mistake and thought I had checked in alone. I've been told some single guys in Chinese hotels finally have to leave the phone off the hook or something, because the girls or their pimps just won't take no for an answer.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:03 AM
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What am I missing here? Why are you attributing to them a suspicion that he's a hooker? What they said doesn't seem to have anything to do with that...
Russian shorthand, trust me on this. I explained that he wasn't some random stranger, that he was my boyfriend of the past year, and the response was "well, sorry, but all kinds of things happen in hotel rooms, so we have to know who's coming in and out." He, I, and every person we've told the story to also interpreted the response that way.
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:03 AM
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Oh, yeah. Totally normal. I have a friend who's a night auditor at a nice hotel and he directs people to the "escorts" section of the phone book when asked.
Used to work the same position and that's exactly what I did when asked. Or sent them over to the night bellman, who knew of a modelling agency or two that did outcalls. I figured it was none of my business and I wasn't paid enough to procure prostitutes for guests.

Really, unless the guest was bothering my other guests or destroying our stuff---(do you know how hard it is to get the smell of weed out of a room?) I couldn't have cared less what they did in the room, provided they were doing it in the room. And not the lobby bathroom, or a conference room they'd unlocked, or the room service kitchen... I did refuse to buy baking soda and aluminum foil for one guest at 1 AM; figured that cooking crack would stink up the room as bad or worse than weed would've.

Returning to sex, I did have to get involved with a guest disputing a charge on his bill for a legitimate massage. The masseuse performed the massage, he then exposed himself and demanded further services, she refused, left, and he wanted his money back. I invited him to discuss the situation with our corporate office later that day, refused to take it off his bill, and I never learned the final disposition. I imagine that corporate caved. Usual state of affairs on the graveyard shift.

Oh, and to address Markxxx's point. When I worked at another resort, our locker room had two leftover sofas in it, that were often used by workers sleeping between double or split shifts. It certainly wasn't anything that a guest would have access to. We didn't have a separate break room, but probably would've converted a conference room if we really needed to provide housing for that many workers.

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Old 05-20-2010, 11:25 AM
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In the 80's and 90's I used to travel throughout the US on business, staying at OMNI's, Hyatt's etc... prostitutes were frequent. I traveled 40 weeks out of the year, I am no young stud but it is out there. I have been approached in the parking lot, in the lobby and at dinner. I have multiple stories for different cities- all domestic. I can honestly say- never accepted an offer but must admit, the girls were usually very attractive.

I can't imagine approaching a hotel employee about a "service".

If I were tired from my travel, I suppose I would park myself on one of the couches in a very far-off corner and catch some zzz's.

I have traveled with a cold and the medication sometimes made me sooo tired that I moved to a pool area and caught 30 minutes on one of the chase lounges.
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:15 PM
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When I was about 16 I went to NYC with a church group as student diplomats to the UN. In the lobby of our hotel there was a group of women who were just always standing aorund waiting for their husbands. And they always had on high heels, which was so weird for tourists, you know?

It was around day ten, when I saw a man walk up behind one, grab her tush and gesture toward the elevator, that it finally sank in.

Forward ten years or so . . .

I'm checking through a subcontractors invoice from a trip to Budapest. There is a charge on the first night of the hotel which translates to "Hot Tuna" and is for the equivalent of about $380.00. I asked on older co-worker what this could possibly be, and he said "That's not a what, that's a who!" I disallowed the charge and it was never mentioned. This particular sub was also infamous for the blacked out movie titles on his hotel receipts.

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Old 05-20-2010, 01:01 PM
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"Ma sa ji?" means "massage(e) ?"
It certainly didn't mean anything in Chinese (to my wife, at least).

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Many times when I have traveled in China, within 5 minutes of checking into a hotel the phone will ring and the only English word is "massagee ?"
It does not matter if I am alone or traveling with my girlfriend.
Does this also happen to the Chinese, or is it only because I am a foreigner ?
Would they also offer this to a Chinese man traveling with his wife or girlfriend ?

I always say "no", but I think I am correct in guessing that it is an offer of a prostitute.
I think you're right. Although in my case, the guy at the snack place may just have been hazarding an opinion as to why an attractive Chinese woman (my wife) would be hanging around with a doofy-looking foreigner (me).
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Old 05-20-2010, 02:30 PM
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I usually just directed them to the part of town where one may find such services.
I'm not a law enforcement agent looking to arrest someone, but wouldn't this be similar to aiding and abetting a crime? Did the management have a policy on this (saying "yes, help the customer" or "no, don't do it")?
Not a law enforcement type, but I would say not. You just commented that hookers tend to hang out on 6th street, or whatever, not actually making arrangements (which could possibly get you pandering charges or something).
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:32 PM
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My ex-BF was a massage therapist (the legit, licensed kind), and for a while he had an on-call gig at a very high-end local hotel to do massages in guest rooms during hours when the health club (where the hotel normally provided legit massage services) wasn't open. After the 3rd or 4th time he got propositioned by clients (all men), he figured out why the previous incumbent of his position had been fired. He got tired of explaining to the previous guy's regular clients that he wasn't in the business of providing happy endings, so he quit.

Also, in 1995 I was in Moscow for a few days in grad school as part of a summer study program, and our whole group, maybe 40 undergrad and grad students, was staying in a hotel in a rather non-touristy part of town (presumably because it was cheap). My boyfriend from the previous year, a Russian Fulbright scholar and historian of a subunit of the Russian Federation Academy of Sciences, wanted to head down our way so we could hang out and chat a bit (to make a long story short, it was impossible to get rubles legally outside of Russia then, and we'd landed on the Saturday night of a long holiday weekend, so everything was closed and there was literally no way for me to get money legally so I could, say, get on a bus and go to his place).

The hotel security wouldn't let him upstairs unless he left his ID at the front desk. When I complained, their explanation was "well, what if something happens to you? We need to know where to find him." Yeah, my historian boyfriend is a hooker...whatever.
Well, that was less for fear that he was a prostitute and more of a fear that he was there to be a troublemaker. I know most hotels in those days were checking passports because they didn't want the locals to come in to: change money illegally for tourists, try to sell stuff or anything else that they didn't think was appropriate in a hotel lobby.

I wasn't in Moscow most of the time that I lived there, but when I was in town and met up with some friends, the need would arise to find a clean bathroom or pick up a newspaper which meant I had to stop in a hotel. So I would just tell them to speak really loudly in English as we entered. I would give my friend my passport to flash as we entered, and since I was so obviously not Russian, they didn't ask me for one.
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An "obvious prostitute" is not a good prostitute.
More obvious because of the situation (middle aged, mostly white) Europeans with girls just off the farm from NE Thailand. Some may not be prostitutes, at least by the strict definition, but it's mostly pretty obvious which are more permanent and less permanent situations.
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This is a true story from a guy 30 years ago in Atlantic City. I'll call the guy Don, because that was his name.

Casinos were not allowed to stay open for 24 hours (it would promote gambling?), so at 6 AM Don found himself on the street with no idea where to find a cheap hotel. A girl drove by with Pennsylvania plates:
"Wanna blowjob? ... Twenty dollars?? I drove all the way from Philly for $20? ... Well, OK."
The girl took Don around the corner to a crummy hotel, while Don explained he just wanted a nap, though would give the girl her 20 and even let her show off her techniques. The hotel clerk wanted another $40 for one hour.

The girl now explained to the clerk that Don wasn't a per-hour customer, and actually wanted to sleep for several hours. The clerk then reduced the rate to $20 !
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