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Old 05-29-2010, 11:31 PM
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Well FUCK ALL about Wars...

I'm sick of it. Them. Wars.

Not just in Countries.

Not just in History Books.

China. North Korea.

The guys in the Middle East who own the oil that pushes our transportation down the road.

Listen, Gentle People...they are all connected.

Bill Clinton and George Bush love the Saudis...WHY IS THAT?

Uh...huh...

Guess....

THESE are two guys who have determined the fate of Economics the world over...
and yet...in 'their' club...(despite the fact that George Bush the 1st would never, EVER have embraced William Jefferson Clinton)... they run with one another.

So MUCH wealth. (Though the Saudis have so much more than George Bush ever had or William Clinton could ever grasp.)

WEALTH.
POWER.

MEN the World over know how it is all interconnected.

To retain Power they must mate with one another.
Keep the 'other' seven billion people turning toward their goals.

WHAT A TASK!

The crimes the current American power brokers have committed against the people of America are....well...just...the same...

Look around the world.

We think we're different?

Those multiple million and billionaires across the Globe determine the fate of all of us... in every country. While they confer and discuss and ridicule and laugh at the non-entities who deliver mail and stay home to raise children and deliver gas and oil and electricity and try to better themselves in Institutes of Higher Learning.

They laugh at us.

And the ONLY thing we have to counter them with is (at least in Democricies) is NUMBERS.

We can't find as much power with MONEY.

WE don't have the millions and billions Corporations spend.

ALL we have is the VOTING BOOTH and remaining true to each of ourselves and what we believe in.

When EVER will this power matter?

God bless the USA.
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:36 PM
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:47 PM
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Lay off the pipe man. Seriously.
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:54 PM
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I'm sick of it. Them. Wars...

God bless the USA.
And how many of those wars were started by the USA?
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:59 PM
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So you woke up this morning and realized we needed to vote Bill Clinton out of office?

Now that's how you have a bender.
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Old 05-30-2010, 12:02 AM
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All wars everywhere were started by the USA, including the Napoleonic Wars.

I give the rant a B+, for sincerity and a real sense of poetic narrative.

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Old 05-30-2010, 12:18 AM
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So you woke up this morning and realized we needed to vote Bill Clinton out of office?

Now that's how you have a bender.
Well, you stupid Fuck....what did YOU do to get his striated ass out of Office?
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Old 05-30-2010, 12:21 AM
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Lay off the pipe man. Seriously.
Nah, it keeps 'em docile. So the wars can go on....DON'T YOU SEE?!?
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Old 05-30-2010, 12:34 AM
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No. No. Don't YOU see? (Are you really so stupid? I thought "The Straight Dope Message Board" sort of prided itself on drawing 'intelligent' folks.) (Though detractors beg to differ.)

Of COURSE, anyone who disagrees with RIGAMOR
OLE
is, obviously... no no....lay down...HE is surperior...smarter...has a better brain...he and chacoguy...good buds...smart guys...

OK lets see YOUR version(s) of politics and the World? Something more...conventional?
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Old 05-30-2010, 12:41 AM
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Yes.

Wars suck.

They are terrible.

It is a shame...

people kill.

Needs to stop.

Yeah, it is

All Bush and

teh SAUDIS

fault.

And DA JOOS...

responsible for

all the wars

in History.

What are WE GOING TO do?
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Old 05-30-2010, 01:29 AM
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Wars have existed since the first time a caveman decided he wanted another caveman's pretty little rock and got his friends to back him up. This is the way of it. Human beings are animals with the same capacity for violence and the same capacity for avarice as any other animal, we just have the ability to manufacture better weapons.

Lamenting this fact, while somewhat noble, is pointless.
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:07 AM
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No. No. Don't YOU see? (Are you really so stupid? I thought "The Straight Dope Message Board" sort of prided itself on drawing 'intelligent' folks.) (Though detractors beg to differ.)

Of COURSE, anyone who disagrees with RIGAMOR
OLE is, obviously... no no....lay down...HE is surperior...smarter...has a better brain...he and chacoguy...good buds...smart guys...

OK lets see YOUR version(s) of politics and the World? Something more...conventional?
Disagree with what? We don't know what you're saying.

Let me try to translate the OP from Incoherent to English:

"I think the two main American political parties are too similar in their foreign policies due to corporate influence. We, the American voters, should be seeking alternative ideas."

Is that close?

How about you come down off of whatever it was you took and try this again.
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Old 05-30-2010, 03:42 AM
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Wars have existed since the first time a caveman decided he wanted another caveman's pretty little rock and got his friends to back him up. This is the way of it. Human beings are animals with the same capacity for violence and the same capacity for avarice as any other animal, we just have the ability to manufacture better weapons.

Lamenting this fact, while somewhat noble, is pointless.
I think we do need to lament this fact, because we're not just fighting over rocks, or more importantly with rocks, any more. And as far as animals go, we also show an unusual ability to modify and adapt our behaviours. Which might or might not save us from ourselves.
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Old 05-30-2010, 03:59 AM
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This is the funniest thread I've seen in ages.
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Old 05-30-2010, 04:05 AM
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Wars have existed since the first time a caveman decided he wanted another caveman's pretty little rock and got his friends to back him up. This is the way of it. Human beings are animals with the same capacity for violence and the same capacity for avarice as any other animal, we just have the ability to manufacture better weapons.
No, actually we have a better capacity for violence and avarice than all the other animals put together.
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:19 AM
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This is the funniest thread I've seen in ages.
You should really get out more!
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:21 AM
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No. No. Don't YOU see? (Are you really so stupid? I thought "The Straight Dope Message Board" sort of prided itself on drawing 'intelligent' folks.)
Well, you're here, in the Pit, putting the lie to that notion...
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:37 AM
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Of COURSE, anyone who disagrees with RIGAMOR
OLE
is, obviously... no no....lay down...HE is surperior...smarter...has a better brain...he and chacoguy...good buds...smart guys...

OK lets see YOUR version(s) of politics and the World? Something more...conventional?
My version of of politics and the world is one where gratuitous use of ellipsis gets one staked to an anthill.

Meanwhile, "RIGAMOR OLE"? Is that some sort of more stylish version of rigor mortis?
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:55 AM
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You should really get out more!
You're telling me. Sad when I get my amusement from this.
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:44 AM
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I think that the O.P.s got a point, until he mentioned it I thought that war was good, also rape, murder and incest.

BOY ! do I feel silly now.
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:22 AM
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I am burning your country.

How does that feel?

Not liking it one bit.

Tit for tit.

Tat for tat.

And all that.

Rock on.

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Old 05-30-2010, 11:29 AM
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War! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh

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Old 05-30-2010, 11:53 AM
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Nah, it keeps 'em docile. So the wars can go on....DON'T YOU SEE?!?
<Looking around in a shifty manner>....



You know too much.
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Old 05-30-2010, 01:46 PM
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He fucks you up, your Uncle Sam
He may not mean to, but he does.
He bills you for the war, a sham,
And adds some extra, just because.
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:18 PM
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I sympathize with your frustration,
ill-versed as it may be,
But while the US seems a hypocrite nation,
there are reasons —as you shall see.

The system of nations lacks authority,
or power to keep folks in line,
If you can't trust your neighbours, there's no place for charity,
and you fight just to stay fine.

When one nation gains power, the others all lose some
since "power" means power over others;
And power means security, so losing it hurts one,
you'd have all the power, had you your druthers.

So countries jostle for position and power,
and people die as they clash,
And some dominate some, which may make them sour,
or maybe just saves them some cash.

America's the hegemon, which means that they run things,
so their states are always secure —
But they have to fight battles, and topple the odd king,
just so that they can be sure.

The other folks hate them, but really are just like them,
since they really want the same things:
Peace and security, and maybe even freedom,
and to be able to keep all their bling.

Into the mix, we add cooperation,
since life isn't just about safety,
And people (like me!) have been working for much time,
but it takes time to change everything —see?

There's no reason to think that it's all a conspiracy,
it's just rulers all have the same aims.
So the world today looks a lot like in history,
from Sparta to Delhi and up the Thames.
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:19 PM
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...and yes, if anybody is curious, that is in fact the worst poetry I've ever written. Thanks for asking.
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:22 PM
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Put a funky beat to it and I can hear Gil Scott-Heron saying that.
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Old 05-30-2010, 04:50 PM
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Of COURSE, anyone who disagrees with RIGAMOR
OLE
is, obviously... no no....lay down...HE is surperior...smarter...has a better brain...he and chacoguy...good buds...smart guys...

OK lets see YOUR version(s) of politics and the World? Something more...conventional?
I'm... not quite sure how to respond to this.
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Old 05-30-2010, 05:42 PM
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I'm... not quite sure how to respond to this.
You should...respond...sort of...like this...

It is OBVIOUS how a retort...to SUCH LOGICAL...smarter...

good buds...smart guys...

VERSION(S) of politics...

don't you SEE it???

no no

Conventional politics of the World!

It is OBVIOUS...

yOU DISAGREE....
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:41 PM
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I think that the O.P.s got a point, until he mentioned it I thought that war was good, also rape, murder and incest.

BOY ! do I feel silly now.
The OP is a woman who, iirc, is in her 60s. She tends to post in this style and often (as here) blames things on politics, men's refusal to care for their daughters, and knees to the groin.

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Old 05-30-2010, 09:49 PM
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Ah, yes.


Now it feels like home.
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:17 PM
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I'm sick of it. Them. Wars.

Not just in Countries.

Not just in History Books.

China. North Korea.

.....

.....

When EVER will this power matter?

God bless the USA.

Burma-Shave.
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:24 PM
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This is the funniest thread I've seen in ages.
Even better if your hearing William Shatner reading the OP aloud it in your head.

CMC fnord!
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:37 PM
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War! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
It's good for you, it's good for me.

[...]

It shows the world that we've got stones
And carriers with fighter drones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yknZf6xER60
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Old 05-31-2010, 02:11 AM
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MEN the World over know how it is all interconnected.

To retain Power they must mate with one another.
Keep the 'other' seven billion people turning toward their goals..
Oh, they're interconnected all right. Damn homosexual conspiracy.
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:39 AM
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I blame their parents myself.
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Old 06-02-2010, 12:11 AM
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I bet Bill Clinton would have fucked a war.
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:36 PM
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Euphonius, posting the entire lyrics to a song like that is a violation of copyright. I've edited down to just the first verse to bring it into compliance with fair use.

(Also, I was totally going to post that.)
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:48 PM
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Euphonius, posting the entire lyrics to a song like that is a violation of copyright. I've edited down to just the first verse to bring it into compliance with fair use.

(Also, I was totally going to post that.)
It was not the entire lyrics to the song. I particularly made sure that I did not post all of the lyrics. I left many of the lyrics out. There are many more lyrics that I did not include.

But thanks anyway.
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:02 PM
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Clinton's problem was starting too few wars, not too many. Of course, it would have lead to that particularly hilarious phenomenon of 90s hippie republicans asking why a couple hundred american boys have to die to save a couple hundred thousand rwandans or bosnians.
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:53 PM
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No, actually we have a better capacity for violence and avarice than all the other animals put together.
You really haven't looked around the animal kingdom much, have you? If you did, you would see ant colonies starting wars with other ants and committing what we would call genocide. You would see ducks gang-raping other ducks. You would see lions eating the young of other lions to preserve their own genetic line. It's tooth and claw out there
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:57 PM
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I bet Bill Clinton would have fucked a war.
Naw.

He'd have done something to a war that would have gotten semen stains on it, but not actually "fucked" it.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:40 PM
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He would have beaten off our enemies.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:34 PM
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Wars have existed since the first time a caveman decided he wanted another caveman's pretty little rock and got his friends to back him up. This is the way of it. Human beings are animals with the same capacity for violence and the same capacity for avarice as any other animal, we just have the ability to manufacture better weapons.

Lamenting this fact, while somewhat noble, is pointless.
Pointless is accepting war as inevitable. It is not pointless to ascribe to something better. We should all hope to be better.
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