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Old 08-26-2010, 05:19 PM
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Are tumors edible?

(Partially inspired by shantih's post in this thread...)

Now, before you say, "EWW!! NAASTY!", think about it -- tumors are just meat. In fact, most of the food we eat comes from squicky places, if you think about it. Bacon's taken from a pig's ass, cheese is a mixture of fermented breast secretions and cow's stomach acid, eggs are avian embryos, and some people even consider placenta stew a delicacy. So there's nothing all that unusual about tumors, once you get beyond the "eww!" factor.

Or am I wrong? Could eating tumors cause health problems? Assuming they are fully cooked, of course...and how nutritious would they be? Any recipe suggestions?
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Old 08-26-2010, 05:30 PM
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tumors are just meat.
Not most of the time they aren't. Meat is muscle tissue. Most cancers don't arise from muscle.

Most tumors lack the features that makes meat and other tissues tasty, but I suspect a lot of a tumor is digestible. If it's cooked properly and chewed well, anyway.

But lots of tumors would be pretty gristly.
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Old 08-26-2010, 06:53 PM
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Yeah we normally don't eat healthy lungs, or most of the tissues that commonly become cancerous. And then imagine eating fibrous lumpy mostly necrotic bits of lung-like tissue. Not very appetizing...
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:11 PM
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Depends on whether you're listening to "Heart-Shaped Box" at the moment or not.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:36 PM
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But there are other organs we eat that do get cancer. Liver and Kidney are the first that come to mind. Would a tumor in those organs taste like the original organs? Are these common enough in any animal that we eat to even find out?
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:44 PM
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:50 PM
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Do you guys realize the business implications here? All we have to do is buy a herd of cows, let them graze next to a nuclear power plant until they get all sorts of cancer, then we'll be able to sell twice the valuable organ meat as a regular cow!

Dollar signs flash in my eyes before me.
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:52 PM
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Bacon's taken from a pig's ass
Oh, no you di'n't.

Bacon is cut from pork bellies, which, as the name suggests, come from the pig's abdominal area, just in front and inside the rear leg.

Hams come closest to coming from the pig's ass, essentially forming the pig's butt cheeks.

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Old 08-26-2010, 08:12 PM
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Not true that we don't eat lungs. They're not consumed as much today (but then, neither are sweetbreads and other organs), but Americans and other groups used to eat lung. My mom says she used to love lungs cooked with (I'm not making this up) diaphragm wrapped around them. I admit it makes me queasy to contemplate eating that stuff, and she never cooked lung while I was growing up, probably because my dad thought it was so gross. Mom said he liked lung until he found out what it was.
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:20 PM
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According this well known source, people are eating them all the time.
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:27 PM
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According this well known source, people are eating them all the time.
It's not a tumor!
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:29 PM
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My mom says she used to love lungs cooked with (I'm not making this up) diaphragm wrapped around them.
Diaphragm is also known as flank steak. Very tasty, and if you have mexican dishes like beef fajitas, you're probably eating diaphragm there. It's a very well-exercised muscle.
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:31 PM
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:35 PM
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But there are other organs we eat that do get cancer. Liver and Kidney are the first that come to mind. Would a tumor in those organs taste like the original organs? Are these common enough in any animal that we eat to even find out?
Any tumor big enough to be detected by eye is most likely getting that organ condemned (and maybe other organs too).

Big tumors have necrotic (dead), putrefying centers. Or they may have chunky, calcified areas (that were once dead putrefying centers). I don't see the appeal in that.
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:11 PM
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Do you guys realize the business implications here? All we have to do is buy a herd of cows, let them graze next to a nuclear power plant until they get all sorts of cancer, then we'll be able to sell twice the valuable organ meat as a regular cow!

Dollar signs flash in my eyes before me.
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Valuable? Organ meat? Have you bought beef liver or kidney, lately. The cheapest steaks are about twice the price of organ meats. I think your business model needs a bit of work, here, before I invest....
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:16 PM
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Bacon's taken from a pig's ass
Oh, no you di'n't.

Bacon is cut from pork bellies, which, as the name suggests, come from the pig's abdominal area, just in front and inside the rear leg.

Hams come closest to coming from the pig's ass, essentially forming the pig's butt cheeks.
Hot dogs are made from lips and scrotums....

It's a proven fact that people will eat hot dogs, no matter what you put in them, which brings up my proposed method for disposing of nuclear waste....
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:21 PM
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According this well known source, people are eating them all the time.
It's not a tumor!
Tumor, Tuber, what's the diff? Uncylopedia, not spell checking, one wurd at a time!
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Old 08-26-2010, 09:49 PM
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I am sorry to say I darned near asked the OP's question.
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:12 PM
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Diaphragm is also known as flank steak.
OMG, really? I had no idea. Tasty, tasty diaphragm...
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Hot dogs are made from lips and scrotums....
Not in the US, they're not. They're made from all skeletal muscle, in other words, meat. http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/hot_dogs/index.asp
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:12 PM
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I am sorry to say I darned near asked the OP's question.
Is tumor meat common in Qatar? I know dog meat is common in China, but I hadn't heard that tumor was common anywhere.
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:15 PM
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Bacon's taken from a pig's ass
[nitpick]
As mentioned, I don't know what kind of bacon you're eating, but bacon is usually belly. (There are also back bacons and jowl bacons. I'm unaware of any ass bacons.)


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cheese is a mixture of fermented breast secretions and cow's stomach acid
Rennet is an enzyme, not a stomach acid. And a lot (most?) cheese is not fermented.

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eggs are avian embryos,
Commercial eggs are generally unfertilized and, hence, not embryos.

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Old 08-26-2010, 10:18 PM
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Diaphragm is also known as flank steak.
OMG, really? I had no idea. Tasty, tasty diaphragm...
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Hot dogs are made from lips and scrotums....
Not in the US, they're not. They're made from all skeletal muscle, in other words, meat. http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/hot_dogs/index.asp
And a freakin' pedant rings in. You just HAD to go and destroy my illusions, didn't you. Now what are we going to do with the nuclear waste? Hmmm? Shall we put it into your breakfast pancakes? MMMMM, Nuclear syrup.....

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Old 08-26-2010, 10:22 PM
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It would keep breakfast hotter longer!
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Old 08-26-2010, 11:39 PM
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My mom says she used to love lungs cooked with (I'm not making this up) diaphragm wrapped around them.
Diaphragm is also known as flank steak. Very tasty, and if you have mexican dishes like beef fajitas, you're probably eating diaphragm there. It's a very well-exercised muscle.
When I used to cut meat, the flank was the abdominal muscles - the analogous human muscle(s) would be the proverbial 6 pack. Skirt steak - now that's your diaphragm.

When I used to cut tumors, we would get big tumors of the sort mentioned in the story on a fairly regular basis - but nowhere near that big of course. From the description of "growing in the womb" and "malignant" I would assume it's probably a leiomyosarcoma, which is a tumor of muscle, smooth muscle. The benign counterpart, leiomyoma or fibroid, is probably the most common benign tumor of humans, and they can be quite large as well, and numerous within a single uterus. As I was cutting these tumors and daydreaming back on my meat cutting days, I would sometimes wonder if those things were edible, or could be made palatable. But then I would stop myself.

Another thing I've wondered about is if meat cutters or butchers ever come across skeletal muscle tumors in cattle. So many cattle are slaughtered, it must happen. Then what do they do? And becuase so many cattle are slaughtered, an occasional tumor must slip through and make it to market. I've never seen one. Not that I knowof. But I'm keeping my eyes peeled.
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:28 AM
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Mmmmm... Tumor mornay!
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:02 AM
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Ovary tumors.... MMM, caviar.... Oh, wait, I don't like caviar.... Beluga fish ovaries... eeeew, yuck.... I don't think the OP actually addresses the question of food. Could we talk about cheese, or something, I'm kinda getting nauseated on the tumor subject...
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:13 AM
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Commercial eggs are generally unfertilized and, hence, not embryos.

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They're neatly encapsulated hens' periods!
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:55 AM
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Dear Fuzzypickles, have you ever really seen a tumor? Cut it down the center? Can't mistake that for meat.

I've got a little story for ya. As a tech in an animal ER, I've seen a few tumors in my time. Usually late-stage, because, you see, people don't seem to think that lump or dangling thing is that big of a deal - until, that is, the tumor bursts and starts to bleed everywhere. Or until the cat or dog who has it decides to chew it off - and it's bleeding everywhere!

We had a beagle in not that long ago. He had a large tumor dangling - swinging - on a stem, and hanging from his abdomen. It swung low enough that he could get a hold of it, so he ate a mouth-shaped crescent out of it.

I said he was carrying his own "Lunchable", no refrigeration needed.

Now, where's that barfey smilie again?
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:23 AM
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Diaphragm is also known as flank steak.
Sorry!. I meant to say skirt steak.

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Old 08-27-2010, 07:40 AM
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:36 PM
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I don't really know if I needed to read that.
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:45 PM
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:45 PM
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:48 PM
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Huitlacoche is an edible tumor that develops on corn ears when the plant is infected by corn smut.
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Old 08-27-2010, 02:00 PM
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Huitlacoche is an edible tumor that develops on corn ears when the plant is infected by corn smut.
I've seen corn smut on the internet. creamed corn smut to be exact :blech:
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Old 08-27-2010, 02:01 PM
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As mentioned, I don't know what kind of bacon you're eating, but bacon is usually belly. (There are also back bacons and jowl bacons. I'm unaware of any ass bacons.)
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Huitlacoche is an edible tumor that develops on corn ears when the plant is infected by corn smut.
And people ask me why I'm a carnivore.
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:54 PM
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Hot dogs are made from lips and scrotums....

It's a proven fact that people will eat hot dogs, no matter what you put in them, which brings up my proposed method for disposing of nuclear waste....
Mr. Dibbler ? Is that you ?
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:04 PM
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You ever regret opening a thread?

I do, sometimes.
You're lucky, at least you don't have to live with a brain that comes up with these questions.

And I could've sworn that bacon came from a pig's ass...my bad. Well, there's always rump roast...
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Old 08-29-2010, 07:42 AM
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They're neatly encapsulated hens' periods!
Quick tip: If, while dining on an egg McMuffin (or similar) you are approached by a militant vegan who feels the need to inform you that "you're eating chicken period, you know", do not reply "OM NOM NOM chicken period" and messily stuff it in your mouth.
You will find yourself no longer welcome in that branch of McDonalds.

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Old 08-29-2010, 08:56 AM
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But there are other organs we eat that do get cancer. Liver and Kidney are the first that come to mind. Would a tumor in those organs taste like the original organs? Are these common enough in any animal that we eat to even find out?
Any tumor big enough to be detected by eye is most likely getting that organ condemned (and maybe other organs too).

Big tumors have necrotic (dead), putrefying centers. Or they may have chunky, calcified areas (that were once dead putrefying centers). I don't see the appeal in that.
However, because it is not naturally obtained, what about Pâté de foie gras?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

The result is tasty, but clearly big enough to be detected and not natural due to the force feeding procedure.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:01 AM
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:12 PM
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I've heard of tumors having teeth and hair and even eyes sometimes -- is that true? (If so, that would DEFINITELY render them inedible!)
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:56 PM
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Any tumor big enough to be detected by eye is most likely getting that organ condemned (and maybe other organs too).

Big tumors have necrotic (dead), putrefying centers. Or they may have chunky, calcified areas (that were once dead putrefying centers). I don't see the appeal in that.
However, because it is not naturally obtained, what about Pâté de foie gras?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

The result is tasty, but clearly big enough to be detected and not natural due to the force feeding procedure.
But that is not a tumor. Liver degeneration due to fat accumulation is not the same as if that liver had developed hepatocellular carcinoma.

And Guin, yes... Teratomas are tumors arising from germ cells that have not even differentiated and can easily transform to different tissues... or at least attempt to replicate those tissues.
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