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Old 08-30-2010, 10:51 PM
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What I want to know is why an erection would need to be deflated. Use of a catheter has already been ruled out.

And I furthermore balk at the idea that nurses were told to intentionally inflict pain in patients, especially when other methods are always available. Every medical professional I've ever met has regarded "Do no harm" as important (whether it was in their oath or not.)

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Old 08-31-2010, 02:02 AM
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Not a nurse but in med school we were taught to ignore and go on to another part of the exam, although I suppose a urethral swab might work too but I only do those if absolutely necessary as the male patients apparently don't enjoy them too much.
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:09 AM
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Isn't injecting saline solution another way to do it?
One must get fluid out, not in. Irrigating with saline can help flush out clots if they're present, but the fluid pumped in must still be aspirated out. Otherwise, increased pressure will accelerate the rate of penile infarct.
Penile infarct?!?! Great, you've given me enough fuel for weeks of nightmares! Whatever happened to "Do no harm" doc?

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Old 08-31-2010, 03:26 AM
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I'd heard this anecdotally from a friend. He got a flick on the balls by a nurse (in the US) while getting a rectal exam. Not enough to inflict any pain, just enough to minimize embarrassment for all parties.
How does being flicked on the balls minimize embarrassment for anybody (or did a whole lot of sarcasm just fly over my head)?
None. My friend was apparently quite happy about not having an erection while he was being probed.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:22 AM
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Embarrassment?

Do you know that types of things a nurse has to deal with every day? An untimely erection is NOTHING compared to what they need to do daily for some patients.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:18 AM
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I read somewhere that you straddle it until the only words the patient can say are Garp and good.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:32 AM
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I know of a guy who suffered a neck injury and was paralyzed. During his long hospital stay, he would occasionally get erections. One day one of the nurses was kind enough to lend a hand and take care of it for him. It wasn't like a porno fantasy, though. He explained that she wasn't attractive and performed it in a very clinical way.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:26 AM
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Getting anywhere near that area with a scissors would certainly do the trick for me.
Heck, just saying out loud that you might get near the frank and beans with a pair of scissors would cause instant noodle.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:11 PM
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Embarrassment?

Do you know that types of things a nurse has to deal with every day? An untimely erection is NOTHING compared to what they need to do daily for some patients.
I can imagine. I was assuming the supposed whack treatment would be to ease the patient's embarrassment. To the nurse/doctor it wouldn't be much of an issue, if any. But for the patient, especially a teenager or very young man, maybe the embarrassment would be too uncomfortable to ignore, regardless of the doc/nurse's gender.

I'm sure glad it never happened to me. Yikes.


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Old 08-31-2010, 12:22 PM
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Is this technique taught in nursing programs? Is it documented in medical literature?

Several nurses and their daughter(s), and patients have given their anecdotal experiences.

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Old 08-31-2010, 02:00 PM
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I know of a guy who suffered a neck injury and was paralyzed. During his long hospital stay, he would occasionally get erections. One day one of the nurses was kind enough to lend a hand and take care of it for him. It wasn't like a porno fantasy, though. He explained that she wasn't attractive and performed it in a very clinical way.
If you seriously believe this, you are one gullible SOB.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:05 PM
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I know of a guy who suffered a neck injury and was paralyzed. During his long hospital stay, he would occasionally get erections. One day one of the nurses was kind enough to lend a hand and take care of it for him. It wasn't like a porno fantasy, though. He explained that she wasn't attractive and performed it in a very clinical way.
If you seriously believe this, you are one gullible SOB.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:20 PM
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So let me get this straight... I'm in the hospital for some reason, with my pants off and my manhood out in the open. A nurse or doctor comes in and I get a stiffy. So to save me further embarrassment, the nurse/doctor whacks the end of my dick? That saves embarrassment how?

"On the one hand, I no longer have a stiffy. On the other, you whacked my penis!"
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:41 PM
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I know of a guy who suffered a neck injury and was paralyzed. During his long hospital stay, he would occasionally get erections. One day one of the nurses was kind enough to lend a hand and take care of it for him. It wasn't like a porno fantasy, though. He explained that she wasn't attractive and performed it in a very clinical way.
My mother works in home health and she's been asked to do this. Standard procedure* is document it in a report to the supervisors who'll usually only schedule male nurses or aids from then on. If that doesn't stop it or the patient complains about having male personel sent the agency director meets with him or his caregiver and tells them to find another home health agency.


*If it's a dementia patient something like this would just be ingnored, unless the patient starts getting physical or tries to assault staff.
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:13 PM
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So let me get this straight... I'm in the hospital for some reason, with my pants off and my manhood out in the open. A nurse or doctor comes in and I get a stiffy. So to save me further embarrassment, the nurse/doctor whacks the end of my dick? That saves embarrassment how?

"On the one hand, I no longer have a stiffy. On the other, you whacked my penis!"
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:17 PM
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:20 PM
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I'm thinking this is a question for The Master. After all, we have many FOAF anecdotes here, nurses who disavow any knowledge of the concept, and children of nurses who swear this is what their moms told them. I lean toward the prolonged adolescent fantasy mentality that infects those of us with dicks, and doubt its veracity. But with such contradictory reports, who are we to believe? Oh, Cecil?
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:39 PM
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I'm thinking this is a question for The Master. After all, we have many FOAF anecdotes here, nurses who disavow any knowledge of the concept, and children of nurses who swear this is what their moms told them. I lean toward the prolonged adolescent fantasy mentality that infects those of us with dicks, and doubt its veracity. But with such contradictory reports, who are we to believe? Oh, Cecil?
Zotti is an expert in male fantasies and general dick mistreatment?
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:14 PM
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I'm thinking this is a question for The Master.
I second.

As for the OP, I decided to rise to the occasion and take a whack at this towering problem. After a bit of toying with my hypothesis I finally got a result:

flicking = didn't work
spoon whacking = didn't work
looking at a picture of Joe Lieberman = worked!

So I know that every guy is a little different, but I'm calling this a bunch of bull.

That being said, it still may have been considered an accepted method way back when, given all of the anecdotes.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:20 PM
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So let me get this straight... I'm in the hospital for some reason, with my pants off and my manhood out in the open. A nurse or doctor comes in and I get a stiffy. So to save me further embarrassment, the nurse/doctor whacks the end of my dick? That saves embarrassment how?

"On the one hand, I no longer have a stiffy. On the other, you whacked my penis!"
By eliminating the source of the embarrassment? Makes sense to me. So what if they whacked your peepee? Likely as not they were going to touch it anyway, depending on why they have you stripped down to begin with.

But this made me think of something- the quickest way for a nurse to kill a boner would be to point at it and giggle. Instant wilt. No muss, no fuss, no spoon, no touching.


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Old 08-31-2010, 06:28 PM
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Why the hell does anyone care if someone's penis gets erect? Just ignore it and get on with your work.
That's also a quote from the Sterling Cooper Secretarial Manual, 1961.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:48 PM
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Not a nurse but in med school we were taught to ignore and go on to another part of the exam
This is what we were/are being taught as well. If we have to do a physical exam, just to wait a bit, or to continue on to another part of the exam until it's gone. Nothing about actually interacting with it in order to decrease it. Just wait it out, or if the patient was really embarrassed, to make an excuse and leave the room ("Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot some paperwork outside" "Oh, I've just been paged, hang on, I'll be back in 2-5 mins, alright?"), otherwise just wait it out and finish the rest of the exam and come back to it.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:16 PM
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By eliminating the source of the embarrassment? Makes sense to me. So what if they whacked your peepee?
It is not appropriate to whack a person just because you do not like how they look.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:27 PM
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Jeez, half the people in this thread can find out for themselves if being flicked with a spoon will deflate an errection, and no one is willing to try it?
I'm sure there is a website for it, but I don't think I am brave enough to look.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:38 PM
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I looked around for nurse erection videos and it appears there are a lot of things nurses can do.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:44 PM
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A young med school grad was assigned to perform his first solo medical exam. He walked into the room to find a voluptuous young woman sitting on the examination table, totally nude. Determined to act professionally, he introduced himself, then said he was going to listen to her chest. He placed the stethescope in a strategic location, but could not pick up a heart beat. He asked her to breath in, then out, but still heard no sounds. He tried different locations, asked her to cough, all to no avail. With panic evident on his face, the young woman remarked 'That might work better if you stuck those little things in your ears'.

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If a nurse flicks your erection, you could say 'That might work better if you...'
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:21 PM
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This is somewhat unrelated true story, but since we all love a good dick joke...

A few years ago, I was having very painful urination. My GP couldn't find any infection, so I'm sent off to the urologist. The urologist decides to do a cystoscopy (For which I was fortunately put under, since it was suspected they might have to do other stuff while there. They absolutely suck when you're awake.) I wake up, and when I'm sober enough, the doctor comes by with a semi-grave look on his face, looks up and grinned slightly, and said, "I'm sorry, but I think that's going to have to come off." I nearly had a heart attack laughing. I should point out that we were certain that this wasn't a terribly serious problem, so it isn't like the doctor went around saying this to penile cancer patients or something.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:08 PM
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"Doctor, my brain hurts..."

It's a good thing you have a sense of humor!
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:09 AM
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By eliminating the source of the embarrassment? Makes sense to me. So what if they whacked your peepee?
It is not appropriate to whack a person just because you do not like how they look.
It's also not appropriate to whack a person because they like how you look
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:20 AM
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Since whacking a boner is not a medical treatment, the consent the patient gave for medical treatment does not authorize the health care practitioner to whack the patient, making the whacking an assault. I have no idea what might have gone on in years past, but as far as today goes, I very much doubt if current best practices include whacking boners, for it would open up the health care practitioners and the institutions for which they work to liability.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:24 AM
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As for the OP, I decided to rise to the occasion and take a whack at this towering problem. After a bit of toying with my hypothesis I finally got a result:

flicking = didn't work
spoon whacking = didn't work
looking at a picture of Joe Lieberman = worked!

So I know that every guy is a little different, but I'm calling this a bunch of bull.

That being said, it still may have been considered an accepted method way back when, given all of the anecdotes.

I'm thinking if the flicking were true, you couldn't do it to yourself anyway. It would have to be administered with a certain amount of unexpectedness.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:28 AM
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sounds like a good planned activity for your next gathering.
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:00 PM
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As mine happened in the bronze age in the military where there was no law suits at that time, it was worth it to get that Doc. She was a 10+ in looks, 10+ in fun attitude & 10+ in medical ability.
In some ways the old days really were better.
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:22 PM
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It is not appropriate to whack a person just because you do not like how they look.
It's also not appropriate to whack a person because they like how you look
Well played!
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:46 PM
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I asked my wife, an RN, and she said they were trained to ignore it.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:13 PM
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I asked my wife, an RN, and she said they were trained to ignore it.
and fantasize about it later
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:14 PM
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By eliminating the source of the embarrassment? Makes sense to me. So what if they whacked your peepee? Likely as not they were going to touch it anyway, depending on why they have you stripped down to begin with.
You haven't eliminated a source of embarrassment, you have created a second source of embarrassment. Sure, there's no more boner, but it already happened and was witnessed. Making it go away doesn't undo that. It might prevent more people witnessing said boner, but that doesn't undo what was done.

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Yes, because that's not embarrasing.
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:27 PM
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I'm willing to believe that female nursing students were told this in order to make them less anxious about examining male patients. (As someone above said, it was a common concern of nursing students.)

I doubt it ever happened in practice. For one, the situation only happens rarely. Secondly, once a person has been nursing for a while, an erection wouldn't faze them. Thirdly, I don't think it would work. (Don't ask me how I know that.)
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:13 PM
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I asked my wife, an RN, and she said they were trained to ignore it.
and fantasize about it later
If it makes you feel better to think that, feel free to keep on thinking that. But would that be more embarrasing or less, to imagine that your health care professional is having unprofessional thoughts about you?
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:28 PM
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After a bit of toying with my hypothesis
Well that's my new favorite euphemism.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:49 PM
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and fantasize about it later
If it makes you feel better to think that, feel free to keep on thinking that. But would that be more embarrasing or less, to imagine that your health care professional is having unprofessional thoughts about you?
I'm OK with it.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:09 PM
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This did happen to my husband back in the 60s. I think he had had his appendix removed. Pitched a tent...nurse gave it a flick. I'm sure that it doesn't happen any more, but it certainly did back in the day.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:00 PM
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Jeez, half the people in this thread can find out for themselves if being flicked with a spoon will deflate an errection, and no one is willing to try it?
Erections are controlled by your (at least partially subconscious) mind. Flicking yourself or being flicked by your SO as part of an experiment is not the same from a subconscious point of view as having an unwanted erection and being whacked by a disinterested nurse. I think it would work like any small unexpected shock might work. If you know what is coming and that it is being done by a friendly hand, the effect might be entirely different.
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:13 AM
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Seriously, I hope a present-day nurse/doctor would simply acknowledge "the event" by off-handedly saying "Don't worry about it" and then continuing with the exam or whatever. Pretty much how they would react to any other involuntary body function.


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Old 09-02-2010, 02:27 AM
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My uncle says this happened to him when in the hospital for hernia surgery. Pretty nurse, sponge bath, yadda yadda yadda. He was about sixteen at the time, so this would have been around 1965.

I've heard him tell the damn story so many times now, the last time he brought it up I told him that maybe she should have flicked it harder.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:46 AM
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We were never taught to do anything besides ignore it and go on. My mother, an RN in the old days, says that several "techniques" were informally passed from older to younger nurses as protection, back in the days when male patients (and doctors) felt free to grab and fondle female nurses as a way of displaying their "healthy" interest. The idea was to non-verbally convey an instant and unequivical message that this was NOT a sexual situation, bub.

Just as that kind of behavior is no longer expected nor accepted in a patient, the defensive behaviors of yesterday's nurses would also now no longer be expected nor allowed. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that all male patients have gotten the message, and I have been once or twice inappropriately approached or touched, albeit only by older men. It's scary and humiliating.

I am not talking about demented or psychotic patients - that's a whole different story. You REALLY need to watch yourself with a hypersexual demented male patient, and, as a psych nurse, we worked in pairs whenever we suspected a bipolar whose manic state included hypersexuality might be more than we could handle.

Looking back at some earlier comments about a similar reaction to a female patient - first up, female patients (again, unless demented or psychotic) just don't have an equivalent reaction in times of stress. In other words, the idea of a female patient becoming aroused during a pelvic exam pretty much only exists in male fantasies. Nipple engorgement, however, is an involuntary reaction to cold temperatures and occurs in both male and female patients.
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:42 PM
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Jeez, half the people in this thread can find out for themselves if being flicked with a spoon will deflate an errection, and no one is willing to try it? When thinking about what I'd do if I have a penis for a day while reading this book, science experiments was one of the first things that came to mind
Let's let Scylla try it, he'll try anything once.

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Old 09-02-2010, 01:20 PM
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Thank you, TanteLiz, that's a different set of circumstances and a kind of justification I can see. If a guy feels okay giving a woman an unanticipated grope, then the woman should be free to give an unequivocal response.

My problem is with the people who somehow think that getting smacked on the weiner is going to reduce embarrassment. On what planet?

As for the female equivalent, you are correct there isn't a clear parallel and thus the stretch for nipple arousal. The point was to reverse the situation, put the female in the context of an involuntary physical response, and the male medical professional applying a physical response to said patient.

An different not quite equivalent would be if a male is giving a woman a pelvic and she accidentally passes gas. Is that an invitation to stick a finger up there and "help her out", or should he just politely tell her that it happens and not to worry about it?
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:04 AM
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To share another military anecdote...

I knew a man who was a POW in WWII. When his camp was liberated, all POWs had to be shaved (including pubic hair) to minimise the possibility of bringing disease/lice back home. I remember him saying something along the lines of “I’m usually a gentleman, but you see, it was a long time since I had even seen a woman and it went up. Without hesitating, the nurse gave me a quick tap with the blunt side of the straight razor”.

He told me that it instantly went back down and he didn’t try any funny business with the nurse.

In his case, I’m not sure if was the tap or that split second when he didn’t know if his member had been dismembered that caused the erection to subside.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:20 AM
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So, anyone with civilian anecdotes less than fifty years old? There were many things done in hospitals a half-century back which are no longer standard prodecures.
A third-hand story (high school friend of Typo Knig) suggests this was still being done in the 70s. Involuntary reaction to some procedure (shaving) related to prepping the guy for hip surgery, nurse smacked the intruding erection.

Presumably it made it go away, but frankly the more respectful / professional reaction would have been to ignore it. I remember being shocked when I heard the story.
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