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Old 02-01-2001, 12:40 PM
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Merciful Fate I heard was.

Marlyn Manson has got to a devil worshiper and if he is not he should be locked up. HE SUX!

Sometimes I wonder about Pantera.

Ozzy said he wasn't but don't know for sure.

Well do you know of any band that are or any band that are suspected of being(satan worshipers) but or not?
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Old 02-01-2001, 12:45 PM
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Barry Manilow.
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Old 02-01-2001, 12:55 PM
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Barry Manilow.
I figured that anybody with music like that has to be from Hell.
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Old 02-01-2001, 12:55 PM
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Michael W. Smith. It's all just a very elaborate act. Trust me.
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Old 02-01-2001, 12:58 PM
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Type O Negative - I love their music.

Backstreet Boys - Only The Dark Lord would torture humanity as such.
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Old 02-01-2001, 01:23 PM
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There have always been bands that some accuse of being "Satanic." There always will be. But, I think that any true devil worshipping bands are few and far between. Of course I can't prove any of this, but I suspect that any band that professes to be Satanists or devil worshipers is doing it just to attract more outcast, misunderstood, rebellious teenaged boys (and their money).

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Old 02-01-2001, 01:25 PM
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The correct answer is of course, none of the above.
See, smart marketing types realize that by creating an aura of 'evil' around an artist amounts to free advertising. The 'moral majority' is going to protest, and there is no such thing as bad publicity, right? Marilyn Manson is a good example. A below average musical talent (on his best day), he should have disappeared without so much as a whimper, but all the negative attention has got him several hours past his 15 minutes.

On a related note...
http://www.theonion.com/onion3703/marilyn_mason.html

Reminds me of one of the Douglas Adams 'Dirk Gently' novels, in which a mysterious novelist named Howard Bell would order live chickens delivered to his hotel room. The chickens were never seen again...




In actuality, he was just paying somebody to smuggle the chickens back out again and keep it hush-hush, so he could add to his mysterious aura.
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Old 02-01-2001, 01:36 PM
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. . . I suspect that any band that professes to be Satanists or devil worshipers is doing it just to attract more outcast, misunderstood, rebellious teenaged boys (and their money). IMHO
And, keep in mind, that Satanists, or, to be specific, members of the Church of Satan, do not worship Satan. They do not even believe in Satan as a real being. Satan, to them, is an archetype that represents certain personality traits and beliefs. Satanists are basically hedonists who like to wear black.

I bet you'd be hard-pressed to find very many genuine "Satan worshippers" in the world.
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Old 02-01-2001, 01:49 PM
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Well..there is at least one "band" that is a bonefied follower of the Church of Satan. NON, also known as Boyd Rice, is a registered member of the Church of Satan and a member of a Neo-nazi movement. Sure he may seem like a total satan woeshiping nazi jerk, but he really is an ok guy and makes some excelent "music". Oh..and get this the radio evangelist Bob Larson, actually called Boyd Rice "Satan", during an on-air interview.
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Old 02-01-2001, 06:10 PM
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First of all, the whole "Satan" deal in rock is awfully dated. Back in the 70s, a lot of heavy metal bands used a lot of haunted-house props, and sang about the occult, but almost none of them took the occult seriously. People who thought Ozzy Osbourne was a Satanist were taking the guy way too seriously. MOST of the musicians who played up the occult angle would freely admit that it was all an act.

Though he wasn't a genuine "Satanist," Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin is probably the only major rock musician I can think of who took the occult seriously (you may recall, he lived in the house once owned by ENglish necromancer Aleister Crowley).
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Old 02-01-2001, 07:28 PM
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I can't believe this thread has gotten this far without mentioning DEICIDE and lead singer Glen Benton, a true blue Satan worshiper. From his interview in The Onion....

O: So what does the devil have to offer?

GB: Well, he's offered me and given me quite a bit. I've gotten more out of Satanism than I've gotten out of anything my whole life. By acknowledging the fact that every dollar that I make is Satan's blood money [pause], I have no problem with it.

O: Okay. Well, I guess it's all sort of intangible, but--

GB: I hate Christians, and I'll put it to you this way: If you fuckin' step on my toes, I'll smash you in the face. ...



I also know a few Satanists in bands here in SF, some of them are friends of mine.
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Old 02-02-2001, 12:07 AM
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Wildest Bill Merciful Fate I heard was.

Actually, only their lead singer, known as King Diamond (if memory serves), was an actual Satanist.

Another couple I can think of from the eighties were Venom and Slayer. I used to be big into all these bands, and if lyric content and liner notes are anything to go by, they're bonafide.
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Old 02-02-2001, 12:08 AM
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Sorry, Wildest Bill, I'm still getting the hang of this quote business. No disrespect intended.
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Old 02-02-2001, 06:45 AM
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I have long maintained that Phil Collins was in league with the Devil.

Ah! Satan won't get us through the "evil" of Marilyn Mason, et al. He will lure us to are damnnation with mediocracy!
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Old 02-02-2001, 06:58 AM
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Satanists are basically hedonists who like to wear black.
I'm a Satanist?????

Damn.
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Old 02-02-2001, 08:35 AM
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Its Mercyful Fate not Merciful
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Old 02-02-2001, 09:01 AM
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Nothing to add, I just wanted to say that if you haven't clicked on DaveX's onion link do so immediately, it's the best I've ever seen!!
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Old 02-02-2001, 09:32 AM
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Hmmm Bill, I dunno.
I don't Think I've ever heard Marilyn sing.
Unless that was his song they played at the end of a funyn SNL skit with Drew Barrymore, the lyric was I am antichrist.
If that was MArilyn, he does Not suck!
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Old 02-02-2001, 12:26 PM
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A below average musical talent (on his best day), he should have disappeared without so much as a whimper, but all the negative attention has got him several hours past his 15 minutes.
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Old 02-02-2001, 02:03 PM
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Amy Grant.

Well, of course she's queen of the Christian Contemporary musical genre. Satan's the Great Deceiver, right?
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Old 02-02-2001, 03:56 PM
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Actually, only their lead singer, known as King Diamond (if memory serves), was an actual Satanist.

Another couple I can think of from the eighties were Venom and Slayer. I used to be big into all these bands, and if lyric content and liner notes are anything to go by, they're bonafide.
To the best of my knowledge King Diamond is NOT a Satanist. The only one I was pretty sure about was Slayer, though I'm not 100% about that. Though I CAN tell you that Ozzy isn't, nor are Iron Maiden.

There have been a number of groups besides Zep that were into the Occult, one of them is Black Sabbath.
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Old 02-02-2001, 07:58 PM
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King Diamond has publically admitted his Satanism in a number of forums, among them the awful Geraldo Rivera Satan undercover special.

Marilyn Manson was annoited a priest in the Church of Satan. According to his autobiography, he spent some time in Anton Levay's Black House in San Francisco.

As previously mentioned, there is Boyd Rice,who is a priest in the Temple of Set, along with Anton Levay's daughter and his biggest detractor Zeena. I don't know if he has enough of a career as a musician to qualify as an artist.

All of these people are members of some variant of the Church of Satan or Temple of Set, which means that they are not technically devil worshipers in the sense that they believe and serve a literal Satan in the Christian sense.

Jimmy Page and David Bowie, among others, were once very interested in ritual, hermetic magic of the Crowleyan variety. Page owned Crowley's Loch Ness manor and an occult bookstore and at one time wore onstage outfits patterned after a ritual magician's robe. Bowie quoted and mentioned Crowley extensively on the album HUNKY DORY. Of course, ritual hermetic magic has nothing to do with Satanism.

Then there was a fellow named Kenneth Anger who is an underground film-maker, co-founder of the Church of Satan and a practicing ritual magician. He was once very close to Keith Richards and his girlfriend Anita Pallenburg, as well as Mick Jagger and Jimmy Page, the later two contibuting music to his film projects. That doesn't imply that they are Satanists either, but this rock and Satan connection is pretty tenuous.

I have heard Iron Maiden (in concert) and Ozzy Osbourne (in interviews) specifically deny any involvement with Satanism, something no self respecting Satanist would do.
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Old 02-02-2001, 10:01 PM
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Wait a minute? An interview in the Onion? Doesn't that imply that the whole thing's made up? I'm confused!

The phrase "I am an AntiChrist" is in the Sex Pistols' "Anarchy in the U.K." I wouldn't put it past grossly-mismatched-contacts boy to cover it, though.
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Old 02-02-2001, 11:32 PM
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My favorite "Satan-rock" story comes from Tony Iommi, the Black Sabbath guitarist.

Iommi and his bandmates have always admitted that their use of Satanic props and symbols was a put-on, no more to be taken seriously than the Haunted House ride at Disney World. But all kinds of genuine freaks and Satanists assumed the band was on the level, and followed them around.

During an early tour of America, the Sabs were in their bedrooms at their hotels, trying to get some sleep, but were roused by the sound of chanting. Looking out the peepholes of their rooms, they saw an actual coven, dressed in long black robes and hoods, holding long candles, and chanting unintelligible prayers to Satan.

Iommi got on the phone to Geezer Butler, Bill Ward and Ozzy, and asked, "What are we gonna do about these freaks? Call the cops? Call security?" They finally decided to get pro-active. So, the four of them went out into the hall, sang "Happy Birthday to You," and blew out all the candles.

The Satanists were peeved, and left in a huff.
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Old 02-02-2001, 11:42 PM
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As previously mentioned, there is Boyd Rice,who is a priest in the Temple of Set, along with Anton Levay's daughter and his biggest detractor Zeena. I don't know if he has enough of a career as a musician to qualify as an artist.
Actually..Boyd has an extensive discography, starting from 78 up until now, i think he's released over 6 lps and numerous amounts of 7" and Eps. He's also done numerous collabortions with Current 93, Death in June, and others. So, he definetly qualifies as an musician/artist.
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Old 02-02-2001, 11:59 PM
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To the best of my knowledge King Diamond is NOT a Satanist. The only one I was pretty sure about was Slayer, though I'm not 100% about that. Though I CAN tell you that Ozzy isn't, nor are Iron Maiden.
King Diamond definitely is. Anyone who has followed his career knows him to be an outspoken Satanist.

Slayer definitely is not. They have said numerous times that they use such imagery in a similar way to horror films. It's just meant to add to the atmosphere of the songs. The older material, anyway.

Acheron, Electric Hellfire Club and others have all claimed allegiance to Satanism in one form or another. If you're really interested in finding out more, I recommend reading "Lords Of Chaos." It's about the Norwegian black metal movement and many of the incidents that happened in the 90s in that scene. It's a controversial book to be sure.
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Old 02-03-2001, 12:25 AM
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WildestBill, you might find this to be informative:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm

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