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Old 11-05-2011, 05:03 PM
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I just finished watching both Jekyll and Sherlock. I do not see James Nesbitt in that Dwarf outfit at all and I am really happy with Martin Freeman as Bilbo, as Dr. Watson he was somewhat quiet and unassuming but still badass and kind of adorable and that's how I picture Bilbo.
He did an amazing job of doing Ian Holms' Bilbo voice at 8:16 in the video when he says "It's in very poor taste!"

I hope I'm offered the option of seeing the 48 fps version in 2D, as I cannot see 3D, like a sizable portion of the population.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:04 PM
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Another on-set report from "Quint"
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51851
I just know that I'm going to remember the bit about Leroy when I see the market scene, and that I will have to explain why I'm cracking up.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:42 PM
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Can't wait! Looking forward to seeing Middle Earth in 3D.

Most exciting shot to me from that video is the actors cocooned in spider-silk.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:26 PM
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I hope I'm offered the option of seeing the 48 fps version in 2D, as I cannot see 3D, like a sizable portion of the population.
I assume we'll get to see it in 2D as well.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:53 PM
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I assume we'll get to see it in 2D as well.
That's why I specified 48 fps as opposed to bog-standard 24 fps. The improved frame rate is what matters to me, as opposed to the stereo which I cannot see.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:57 PM
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One of the things I loved about the LOTR trilogy, after seeing the making off doco's was how they accomplished so much of the size differences via forced perspective tricks.

Does anyone have any idea on how (or if) they will pull that off with 3D cameras?
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:32 PM
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That's why I specified 48 fps as opposed to bog-standard 24 fps. The improved frame rate is what matters to me, as opposed to the stereo which I cannot see.
Yes, I mean that 48fps would screen in 2D also, though I am not totally sure. Is there a reason they would not be able to show it in 2D that way? I don't want to see a 3D movie, but I do want to see a 48fps movie.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:27 PM
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Yes, I mean that 48fps would screen in 2D also, though I am not totally sure. Is there a reason they would not be able to show it in 2D that way? I don't want to see a 3D movie, but I do want to see a 48fps movie.
I hope so. I just saw a press release from digital projector maker Christie about a retrofit kit that will make all their units handle various frame rates from 24 to 48 to 72 and even higher. I fear that people will see the 3D and wrongly attribute the enhanced sense of reality to 3D, when the enhanced frame rate is the thing that is delivering the majority of the experience. One of the most amazing theatrical experiences I've ever has was seeing Doug Trumbull's ShowScan 60 fps system.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:41 PM
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Can't wait! Looking forward to seeing Middle Earth in 3D.

Most exciting shot to me from that video is the actors cocooned in spider-silk.
Yes. Also great to see Gandalf wielding Glamdring, and Bilbo at the top of the tree looking over Mirkwood.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:09 PM
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I wonder how they will pull off dwarves as comic relief and Klingon like warriors.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:05 PM
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I wonder how they will pull off dwarves as comic relief and Klingon like warriors.
Maybe you didn't see the news, but this film has a whole BUNCH of dwarves! They can split up the duties, so there won't be any need for any particular character to play both comic relief and badass.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:20 PM
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So the guys who fall through Bilbo's open door aren't the guys kicking Goblin ass?
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:31 PM
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So the guys who fall through Bilbo's open door aren't the guys kicking Goblin ass?
Works for me. They ran out of bubble gum.
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:11 AM
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Part three of Quint's filming blog is updated. Wow, looks like Peter Jackson is back to his Lord of the Rings weight.

Oh, this one contains minor spoilers if you have not read the Hobbit or, I guess, not seen the Lord of the Rings. Very minor spoilers, hardly worth mentioning. Basically, they are filming some of the ending.

Part 3, with one nice picture of Martin Freeman and Jackson working
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:25 PM
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Thanksgiving bump for Beorn

From theonering.net:

Gandalf chats up Beorn

Yay for progress!
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:36 PM
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... and more excitingly, Quint's 4th Hobbit blog is up today. Happy Thanksgiving indeed!

Part 4, Quint, from Ain't It Cool News
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:29 PM
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Many pairs of hairy prosthetic hands were then carefully laid on a trestle table while the Hobbit and Dwarves went on their immediate epic quest - lunch.
ROFL!
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:48 PM
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Sylvester McCoy is playing Radagast? Did we know that before?

Doctor Who meets Bilbo Baggins!
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Old 11-24-2011, 03:59 PM
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Sylvester McCoy is playing Radagast? Did we know that before?

Doctor Who meets Bilbo Baggins!
Oh yeah. Been happy about that for a while now. Apparently he's going for the whole absent-minded-professor thing.
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Old 11-24-2011, 04:14 PM
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I picked up the LOTR Extended Editions on blu-ray a couple of days ago (the price dropped to $49.99 at Amazon and other places) and I can't wait to give them a watch.

Really looking forward to these movies!
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Old 11-26-2011, 09:12 AM
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I was going to post the Quint report, but I see someone beat me to in.
Carry on.

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Old 11-28-2011, 05:46 AM
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I can mention that report #5 is available:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52094

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Old 11-28-2011, 07:37 PM
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I can mention that report #5 is available:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52094

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A brief, but neat one. Sounds like Ian McKellan is working quite a bit for this shooting section.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:13 PM
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Nitpick: McKellen.

Keep up the flow of info, please - I'm loving it!

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Old 11-29-2011, 07:02 AM
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McKellen's blog:
http://www.mckellen.com/cinema/hobbit-movie/111129.htm

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Old 12-12-2011, 11:29 AM
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TORn says that the trailer for The Hobbit is done, and a copy has crossed the Pacific in the hands of Elijah Wood and Quint from AICN. The trailer was shown at some convention or other called BNAT13 Film Fest just in the last 24 hours or so. The rest of us have to wait until Christmastime to see the trailer.

But there must be some grainy, shaky recording of it existing somewhere on the 'net, speculation says, even if it'll be quickly shut down. Can anyone find it before then?
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:38 AM
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But there must be some grainy, shaky recording of it existing somewhere on the 'net, speculation says, even if it'll be quickly shut down. Can anyone find it before then?
You'd need the luck of, ummm...... somebody really lucky to find it!
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:09 PM
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Oh man I would so die of happy if that were true. I love Tennant so very much. His accent makes me a happy person. It's like all the friendly approachable parts of Sean Connery.

I'm already happy that they're making it clear that Legolas is part of the Wood-King's court. Meh about Orly, but consistency is nice, and he didn't kill the part.



I adore David Tennant, and would pay to watch him read a laundry list.

And I thought that Legolas *was* the son of the Wood Elf King, I can't remember where I packed my silmarillian, so I can't look it up but I know there is a copy at my mums house that I can check over Christmas weekend.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:36 PM
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Hobbit Trailer...

Right here.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:49 PM
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The trailer looks great! I'm not very thrilled with Thorin, but waddayaganadoo?

Also, WTF is up with "An Unexpected Journey"? They should shitcan that ASAP; it's totally unnecessary.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:49 PM
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Official trailer site here:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thehobbit/

(Just mentioning in case you want to watch in higher resolution.
I really like the Dwarf song.

Brian
p.s. : Snowboarder Bo: It is subtitled because it is two movies. IIRC movie 2 is "There and Back Again"

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Old 12-20-2011, 09:53 PM
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Also, WTF is up with "An Unexpected Journey"? They should shitcan that ASAP; it's totally unnecessary.
There are going to be two sequential "The Hobbit" movies, so the secondary titles are a way of distinguishing them. Sure, they could have just called them "part 1" and "part 2" but that's not the road they've taken.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:56 PM
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And, part 6 of "Quint"s is available:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52353

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Old 12-20-2011, 11:13 PM
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There are going to be two sequential "The Hobbit" movies, so the secondary titles are a way of distinguishing them. Sure, they could have just called them "part 1" and "part 2" but that's not the road they've taken.
Ah, ok, thank you for the explanation. I've not been following the production work on this movie at all (I knew del Toro was out and Jackson was in as director and am glad of the fact even tho I love del Toro's work), but that's about all I knew. I had no idea it was gonna be 2 movies.

I don't usually follow a movie while it's in production, as I'd really rather just wait and experience the final product with as few preconceived ideas as possible. I came in here hoping that there was a link to a trailer, however, and I wasn't disappointed in that or in what I saw in the trailer. In fact, ISTM that this (these) could be a lot more fun than LOTR was.

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Old 12-20-2011, 11:28 PM
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I was under the impression that the second movie was going to deal with the goings-on in Middle Earth for the 60 years the ring was safely in the Shire.

But the second movie is called The Hobbit: There and Back Again. That sounds like an odd title for that plot.

Or do I have the plot of the second movie wrong?
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:57 PM
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I don't think it's been revealed exactly how the two movies are split. Most people are just guessing. I think the entire book has been split into two parts, and been padded out to movie length with additional material, rather than a distinctive separation of story between the two episodes. But of course, I'm just guessing also.

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Old 12-21-2011, 12:01 AM
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I was under the impression that the second movie was going to deal with the goings-on in Middle Earth for the 60 years the ring was safely in the Shire.

But the second movie is called The Hobbit: There and Back Again. That sounds like an odd title for that plot.

Or do I have the plot of the second movie wrong?
I think the first movie will be up to the Elves in Mirkwood (there's definitely some spider webs), seems like the logical point to stop. Nothing in the trailer shows anything Smaug or 5 armies-related, so I figure that's for part 2. The whole thing is going to be filled out with all the stuff that happens behind the scenes, if I understand correctly - the White Council and Necromancer and that.

As to the trailer: Squeeee!
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:19 AM
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The whole thing is going to be filled out with all the stuff that happens behind the scenes, if I understand correctly - the White Council and Necromancer and that.
That's my current understanding, as well. That would explain certain scenes in the trailer (I suppose I should spoiler them)...

SPOILER:
Gandalf walking around in ruins by himself, staff in one hand, and the sword Glamdring in the other. Also, the presence of Galadriel in the trailer...she doesn't appear in the book at all, but other canon established that she was in the White Council.


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I was under the impression that the second movie was going to deal with the goings-on in Middle Earth for the 60 years the ring was safely in the Shire.
ISTR that early discussions with Jackson about making one book into two movies included that as a possibility, but it seems like that was set aside at some point.

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Old 12-21-2011, 03:48 AM
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ISTR that early discussions with Jackson about making one book into two movies included that as a possibility, but it seems like that was set aside at some point.
They can make a third movie about that. I don't mind.

And hopefully WB can get their hands on the movie rights to the Similarion. I want to see the legion of Balrogs badly.

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Old 12-21-2011, 11:39 AM
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I love the dwarves' song, too. And Martin Freeman is exactly Bilbo in the flesh, everything I hoped he would be. I didn't see any glimpses of trolls or stone giants in this trailer, and I'm eager to see how they'll look.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:08 PM
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I love the dwarves' song, too. And Martin Freeman is exactly Bilbo in the flesh, everything I hoped he would be. I didn't see any glimpses of trolls or stone giants in this trailer, and I'm eager to see how they'll look.
There is definitely a glimpse of troll feet / shins.

TORN's frame by frame analysis:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...5769820&type=3

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Old 12-21-2011, 12:31 PM
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Dammit, a whole year to wait for the first part.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:20 PM
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Some of those dwarves look decidedly undwarvenly. Other than that it looks great and i cant wait.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:22 PM
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"The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" trailer debuts

Trailer for "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey":

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...hp&form=MSNRLL

Looks like we get a song, my preciousessess.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:30 PM
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Looks like we get a song, my preciousessess.
Yep, it made me think of the old animated version (which I like). I'm not sure whether that was a nod to it or not.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:50 PM
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Some discussion about it over in The Hobbit anticipation thread.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:50 PM
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[damn you Tangent!]

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Old 12-21-2011, 03:53 PM
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Actually I like that DC-avoids stereotyping them too much-why can't 2 of them be "conventionally" handsome in a more human sense? [Talking about Thorin and Kili here.]
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:55 PM
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:56 PM
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Some of those dwarves look decidedly undwarvenly.
As we hadn't seen too many Tolkien dwarfs in LOTR, we have very little to compare.

By the way, is it dwarfs or dwarves in Tolkien's writing?
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